rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[Twaddle]

this is a fantastic clip 

This clip did indeed, "Shock me to the core!"  The music was very relaxing as well.   

[El Diablo Blanco]

this is a fantastic clip 

Huh? WTC-7 didn't fall at 5:20 PM.  It was early in the morning.

[chaos]

So nobody saw any missles but a bunch of witnesses saw planes?

[M4tad0r]

So instead of proving that there were any explosions, you flood thread with that crap, which everyone has seen millions of times? In your own words, please explain loud an clear what is the difficulty to point out those explosion? Instead of that, you link a bunch of videos which proves, that there wasn't any kind of visible mark of any kind of explosion? Let see..

 Just claims and opinions.

&feature=youtu.be  and these are the blast waves of the tons of explosives? Blinds are faintly moving? No flames, no blast wave, nothing comes out from the open windows? Tons of explosions going of, and there is not even a little puf of smoke coming out from the open windows? *

  utter bullshit, but funny, because it has same explosion which I use as an sample, but they are just ignoring the blast wave which is evident in real explosion, and invisible in the imaginary one.

 just utter bullshit

  yet more utter bullshit.

Quite lame, because from the beginning of time to this day, no one has been able to show any of those explosions what you are so eager to talk about. It make no difference what you say, do you understand? You have to show the evidence, and those rumors and opinions aren't enough.

* Let see something which include the proved facts..

I use this as an example, because I know the case and the place. The PDF is in English, here is the main details: There was this construction work at the Espoo, Finland at the late summer of 2012. There was this excavation crew making third blasting of the day with the blasting field with 16 holes, all 24 feet deep. In the bottom of each hole was 2 kilos of explosives, then 23 feet of sand for filling the holes. To cover the blast they used first a layer of blast stones from the earlier blasts, and the pile of the rubber mats, made from the tires of the tractor. When this was detonated, this 32 kilos of explosive berried in to 23 feet of granite, under the layer of blast stones and mats, it sprayed rocks as far as 250 yards away from the blast. Tiny little excavation blast, and there were rocks flying, some of them size of the bowling ball. And when they are blasting hundred of kilos of explosives inside the WTC towers, there isn't even the puff of smoke, no smashed windows, absolutely no visible evidence which are connected to explosions by the laws of physics. What kind of moron you have to be to think it would be possible?


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 Just claims and opinions. HOW CAN THIS VIDEO BE CLAIMS AND OPINIONS, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT, DID YOU NOT WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO? IT SHOWS CLEARLY AS DAY WHERE THE PLANE HIT THE BUILDING AND THE TINY PART THAT THE TOP 15 FLOORS REPRESENTED VS THE REST OF THE BUILDING.

 HOW THAT FUCK CAN 15 FLOORS CRUSH 90-95 FLOORS IN STRAIGHT LINE DOWN TO IT'S BASE, PULVERIZING CONCRETE AND LUNCHING STEEL BEENS 600 YARD TO THE SIDE IN A STAGGERING 12 FUCKING SECONDS? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS YOU FUCKING INBREED!!!!

HOW CAN 15000 POUNDS CRUSH 90000 POUNDS WITH NO ACCELARATION IN BETWEEN BECAUSE OF DEBILITATED STEEL ALL THE WAY UP IN THE 90-95 FLOOR? PROVIDE US WITH ANY VIDEO WITH A SITUATION SIMILAR IN WHICH A SKYSCRAPER ON FIRE OBLITERATE ITS SELF TO IT'S BASE? !!!!

In the videos of demolitions of huge buildings, do we see any huge explosion before the buildings collapse on it's self? If not sure what I'm talking about, go to youtube and watch demolitions of hotels in Vegas and come back and post them where it show us those huge explosions that you speak of before the building are brought down.

[Twaddle]

So nobody saw any missles but a bunch of witnesses saw planes?

Actually, many witnesses on the bridge witnessed a 757 yawing back and forth, knocking down light poles, and then crashing into the side of the Pentagon.  

[lilhawk1]

All 3 buildings fell at near free fall speed.  That defies physics, unless there was no resistance from the floors beneath.....why was there no resistance?  Controlled demolition...period.  Larry Silverstein said it himself.. He said they decided to "pull" WTC 7. That means controlled demo, which means the building was rigged for controlled demolition.  Now stop and think, why would a building be rigged for controlled demo? That's not something that's just done when the building is built.  All the dust seen is called pyroclastic flow from pulverized concrete due to a controlled demolition..  There are some incredibly naive and uneducated individuals in this thread.  Do some reading... Architects, engineers, pilots, military generals all believe the official story is total shit.  Our government did this.   

[El Diablo Blanco]

All 3 buildings fell at near free fall speed.  That defies physics, unless there was no resistance from the floors beneath.....why was there no resistance?  Controlled demolition...period.  Larry Silverstein said it himself.. He said they decided to "pull" WTC 7. That means controlled demo, which means the building was rigged for controlled demolition.  Now stop and think, why would a building be rigged for controlled demo? That's not something that's just done when the building is built.  All the dust seen is called pyroclastic flow from pulverized concrete due to a controlled demolition..  There are some incredibly naive and uneducated individuals in this thread.  Do some reading... Architects, engineers, pilots, military generals all believe the official story is total shit.  Our government did this.   

Since the Federal Reserve had vaults below ground under the towers maybe the buildings were always rigged as a fail safe in case of some elaborate attempt to break-in, loot or steak.  Sort of a doomsday scenario.  The Feds would rather collapse the buildings ensuring the billions in gold stored there would be safe from looters.  Could be once the planes hit they knew the gold and money in the vaults were at risk so they "pulled it" and brought them down to protect it.  Remember the Hierarchy in America is Federal Reserve --> military --> Government.

[chaos]

Actually, many witnesses on the bridge witnessed a 757 yawing back and forth, knocking down light poles, and then crashing into the side of the Pentagon.  

But some people claim it was a missle. Where'd the missle come from? Where are the people that saw it? Was it invisible?

As for the buildings falling at free fall speed, that's just not true.

[M4tad0r]

But some people claim it was a missle. Where'd the missle come from? Where are the people that saw it? Was it invisible?

As for the buildings falling at free fall speed, that's just not true.

What part of the 12 seconds is not true?

[lilhawk1]

Since the Federal Reserve had vaults below ground under the towers maybe the buildings were always rigged as a fail safe in case of some elaborate attempt to break-in, loot or steak.  Sort of a doomsday scenario.  The Feds would rather collapse the buildings ensuring the billions in gold stored there would be safe from looters.  Could be once the planes hit they knew the gold and money in the vaults were at risk so they "pulled it" and brought them down to protect it.  Remember the Hierarchy in America is Federal Reserve --> military --> Government.

So they just have the building rigged with controlled demo explosives when it's built?

[SOMEPARTS]

 Just claims and opinions. HOW CAN THIS VIDEO BE CLAIMS AND OPINIONS, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT, DID YOU NOT WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO? IT SHOWS CLEARLY AS DAY WHERE THE PLANE HIT THE BUILDING AND THE TINY PART THAT THE TOP 15 FLOORS REPRESENTED VS THE REST OF THE BUILDING.

 HOW THAT FUCK CAN 15 FLOORS CRUSH 90-95 FLOORS IN STRAIGHT LINE DOWN TO IT'S BASE, PULVERIZING CONCRETE AND LUNCHING STEEL BEENS 600 YARD TO THE SIDE IN A STAGGERING 12 FUCKING SECONDS? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS YOU FUCKING INBREED!!!!

HOW CAN 15000 POUNDS CRUSH 90000 POUNDS WITH NO ACCELARATION IN BETWEEN BECAUSE OF DEBILITATED STEEL ALL THE WAY UP IN THE 90-95 FLOOR? PROVIDE US WITH ANY VIDEO WITH A SITUATION SIMILAR IN WHICH A SKYSCRAPER ON FIRE OBLITERATE ITS SELF TO IT'S BASE? !!!!

In the videos of demolitions of huge buildings, do we see any huge explosion before the buildings collapse on it's self? If not sure what I'm talking about, go to youtube and watch demolitions of hotels in Vegas and come back and post them where it show us those huge explosions that you speak of before the building are brought down.

I like this poster's style. Carry on!

[lilhawk1]

But some people claim it was a missle. Where'd the missle come from? Where are the people that saw it? Was it invisible?

As for the buildings falling at free fall speed, that's just not true.

They did fall at near free fall speed.  That's a fact... All 3 buildings.  So you think 3 steel framed buildings all collapsed on the same day when never before in history has even one collapsed?  These buildings were designed to take multiple impacts from a 747 and stay standing.  If a catastrophe occurred, they were built in sections, so only one section would fall, not the entire structure.  Part of the structure would fall off or possibly crumble... The entire structure fell at free fall speed.  The lower floors would have resisted and there would have been a lot of the standing yet.  You see all the dust?  That dust was from pulverized concrete.  The concrete would not have turned to dust if it was just a building collapse without explosives used.  You can see the demolition squibs from the floors below as the buildings collapse....and no it's not pressure from the floors above.  Firefighters, building architects, engineers, all say demolitions brought the buildings down.  All except the ones involved in the bullshit 9/11 commission report that everyone standing upright knows is a complete joke.

[Fortress]

The couple in this thread who champion the official story are plainly idiots or just trolling.

No rational, thinking, intelligent human cannot see the very obvious horseshit in what is told as "the story".

Three steel buildings collapsing perfectly onto themselves, one that wasn't even hit by a plane, just "falling debris, bro!" ... LOL

Nonsense.

[illuminati]

and saying "it doesnt seem to add up" whilst producing absolutely fuck all in the means of evidence is typical of tin foil hatters.

Arguing with people like you is like trying to convince this guy the world really isnt going to end.

Your In England.
Have you heard about The Hillsborough Football Disaster ??
It's all over the News / Social Media & Has Been For Yrs.
Finally After 27yrs It has been Proven The Police / Establishment Lied
Consistently To Cover For Thenselves.
Lied & Vilified 96 Innocent People who Died & Their Families.
All Manner of accusations were made by The Police / Establishment / Press.

Judging By your Position / Post's YOU No Doubt Wholeheartedly Believed 'The Oficial Story'

Well You Know What The Family's & Supporters Didn't Believe it.
And They Fought Against People Like YOU To Get The Verdict & Justice
They so Rightly deserved.

Were They Also Tin Foil Hat Brigade.

No They Had The Backbone / Balls to Challenge What Was Officialy Said.

[El Diablo Blanco]

So they just have the building rigged with controlled demo explosives when it's built?

No but after the first attempt to drive a truck with fertilizer through was enough for them to put in a fail safe.

[chaos]

What part of the 12 seconds is not true?

I'd actually have to put effort into finding the link now, but when it was calculated freefall speed would have collapsed the buildings in just under 8 seconds if memory serves.

[M4tad0r]

I'd actually have to put effort into finding the link now, but when it was calculated freefall speed would have collapsed the buildings in just under 8 seconds if memory serves.

Not to be rude, not trying to pick a fight here with you, but we are talking about a skyscraper, our tallest buildings and you are talking about a difference between 4-6 seconds. The collapse of an entire skyscraper to it's base, 115 floors tall, which could have been possible according to the official report due to fire because of the difference of 4-6 seconds, not minutes, not hours, we're arguing about seconds, really? Let that sink in for a moment.

[Fortress]

I'd actually have to put effort into finding the link now, but when it was calculated freefall speed would have collapsed the buildings in just under 8 seconds if memory serves.

Really?! You're arguing several seconds in the complete collapse of buildings of that gargantuan size/height?

You're of inferior intelligence if this actually impacts your ability to be reasonable.

[chaos]

Not to be rude, not trying to pick a fight here with you, but we are talking about a skyscraper, our tallest buildings and you are talking about a difference between 4-6 seconds. The collapse of an entire skyscraper to it's base, 115 floors tall, which could have been possible according to the official report due to fire because of the difference of 4-6 seconds, not minutes, not hours, we're arguing about seconds, really? Let that sink in for a moment.

Really?! You're arguing several seconds in the complete collapse of buildings of that gargantuan size/height?

You're of inferior intelligence if this actually impacts your ability to be reasonable.

You two should do your research better, neither tower fell to its base in 8-12 seconds. One tower was standing at 40 stories, the other at 60 after the collapse.

[Las Vegas]

False sense of security.  If the government were truly afraid of people and their guns they would have banned them a long time ago.  They want people to feel they have a fighting chance.  Most gun owners think the gov can never overrun this country as long as they have their pistol and that's what they want to them to believe.

I don't think the bad guys in government are afraid of guns.  I'd say they are deeply annoyed by them.

We can't forget that all the slimey shit they do is done under cover of being a "good guy", and guns in the hands of citizens means many of those citizens could die if force is placed on them -- which sort of blows the cover.

So if any future plan exists to further rearrange our political system, then fewer guns means better cover and higher probability to carry it out.

It's based on the undeniable fact that nearly everyone wants a proper society and will act accordingly to achieve it, even if they're being fooled.

[Las Vegas]

The Saudi thing is very interesting, because it makes you wonder how it could unfold.  Right now, I'm sure there are people scrambling to try to protect certain information from becoming vulnerable to exposure through lawsuits.  Because at the very least, the Bush Administration could get pulled through the mud, bad, and maybe much worse.

And if Isreal has responsibility in it, they could have a Plan B to help pin everything on the Saudis in order to serve them a death card.

But saying we can't sue someone for creating the terror plot because we need them to help us stop terror plots, is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

The couple in this thread who champion the official story are plainly idiots or just trolling.

No rational, thinking, intelligent human cannot see the very obvious horseshit in what is told as "the story".

Three steel buildings collapsing perfectly onto themselves, one that wasn't even hit by a plane, just "falling debris, bro!" ... LOL

Nonsense.

Any site with significant traffic that openly talks about Conspiracy Theories is put on a rotation of COINTELPRO posters who's job it is is to call out people and use all the types of language ROPO uses in every single one of his posts about the subject. The woman below lost her job for explaining what is going on in internet forums etc. She did a great 10 min TED talk about it...

 

[calfzilla]

Nice looking MILF, would hit.

[2scared2post]

They did fall at near free fall speed.  That's a fact... All 3 buildings.  So you think 3 steel framed buildings all collapsed on the same day when never before in history has even one collapsed?  These buildings were designed to take multiple impacts from a 747 and stay standing.  If a catastrophe occurred, they were built in sections, so only one section would fall, not the entire structure.  Part of the structure would fall off or possibly crumble... The entire structure fell at free fall speed.  The lower floors would have resisted and there would have been a lot of the standing yet.  You see all the dust?  That dust was from pulverized concrete.  The concrete would not have turned to dust if it was just a building collapse without explosives used.  You can see the demolition squibs from the floors below as the buildings collapse....and no it's not pressure from the floors above.  Firefighters, building architects, engineers, all say demolitions brought the buildings down.  All except the ones involved in the bullshit 9/11 commission report that everyone standing upright knows is a complete joke.

How many had been hit by a 747?

[hench]

never questioned it before but now thinking about it and re-watching, those buildings fell like any controlled demolition i've seen before, like the bottoms being pulled out from them. I think if the buildings were going to collapse in any way it would be  very uneven  and only as parts from the damaged section weaken further and fall downwards.