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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 07:36:09 AM »
Ronnie could lift what he lifted because he was strong. He had a huge amount of muscle mass(perhap even unsurpassed), which could tolerate and produce a huge amount of force.

What is "heavy" for Dexter is not the same as what was "heavy" for Ronnie. For example...
Both trained to their maximum and beyond

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 07:57:47 AM »

Reeks of racism.....
Lol, where?
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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 07:59:42 AM »
Ronnie ruined his body before there was the IG

....the next ten years is gonna show a trail of bodies that will make "the dead pro wrestlers list" look like a anorexic's grocery list

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 08:02:00 AM »
Ronnie ruined his body before there was the IG

....the next ten years is gonna show a trail of bodies that will make "the dead pro wrestlers list" look like a anorexic's grocery list
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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 08:19:10 AM »
Other than his bench nothing is close to Erics numbers they weigh around the same, but for a guy whos not training for a max single these numbers are crazy.

I said it's Lilliebridge territory....I didn't say they were close or matched.

Eric recently pulled a 906 in competition.....825 is in that territory. 
Eric recently pushed a 545 in competition......525 is in that territory.
Eric recently squated a WR (wraps only) 960ish......I don't know what Dallas' squat is.  Although if it's 700s his total is excellent.

Eric is worldclass, but there aren't many folks with 800+ dead, 500+bench and 700+ squat....those are great, great numbers for a bb.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »
I said it's Lilliebridge territory....I didn't say they were close or matched.

Eric recently pulled a 906 in competition.....825 is in that territory. 
Eric recently pushed a 545 in competition......525 is in that territory.
Eric recently squated a WR (wraps only) 960ish......I don't know what Dallas' squat is.  Although if it's 700s his total is excellent.

Eric is worldclass, but there aren't many folks with 800+ dead, 500+bench and 700+ squat....those are great, great numbers for a bb.


His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 08:56:10 AM »
His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs

Dallas also isn't in a PL meet LOL.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 09:01:33 AM »
Ronnie could lift what he lifted because he was strong. He had a huge amount of muscle mass(perhap even unsurpassed), which could tolerate and produce a huge amount of force.

What is "heavy" for Dexter is not the same as what was "heavy" for Ronnie. For example...
Both trained to their maximum and beyond


Huge amounts of muscle mass means relatively little without the even-more-important other components of strength performance: supporting structures and the CNS.

Other points:

Shawn Ray did indeed lift heavy. The guy was incredibly strong for his relatively light bodyweight.

If we're talking huge capacity for strength in pro bodybuilding, Mike Francois's name needs to be mentioned.

This Dallas guy is incredibly strong! He outperforms Ronnie, that's for sure. So, yes, strong!

I concur: Bodybuilding loses steam when there are so many wimp-ass "champions" posting f aggy workout videos.


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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 09:04:33 AM »
Being the strongest IFBB pro these days is equivalent to being the strongest person in the room full of people who are 80+ years old (if you are much younger).

Since most IFBB pros barely move the weight more than 1", well, its not too difficult to be the strongest.
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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 10:30:23 AM »
His deads are done with straps, knock 20-40lbs off over under grip.

Bench is close but Dallas isn't paused.

Eric wraps only is 1036, 940 sleeves, unknown what Dallas can do, Guessing nothing over 800, 80 - 100lbs at that level is night and day difference it can take years to gain that much strength, let alone 150-200lbs

His maxes are during workouts.  I competed in PL and was well rested for meets which helped me achieve max lifts.

This is very impressive during his workout.


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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 10:36:31 AM »
His maxes are during workouts.  I competed in PL and was well rested for meets which helped me achieve max lifts.

This is very impressive during his workout.



Most people pull better during a workout than at a meet, take as long as you want between sets, don't have 100s of people watching you, haven't been at a meet all day long by the time deads come around and your body is stiff and tired. Most high level guys can't pull there training max in a full power meet.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 10:49:18 AM »
Dallas also isn't in a PL meet LOL.

His gym maxes are higher than what I listed, Eric benched 560 in the gym with a pause, I'd be surprised if Dallas could push 500 with pause. At 308 weight class in powerlifting a 500 or even 525 bench isn't big, no one cares unless you are pushing close to 600 at that body weight. Stan efferding the strongest pro bodybuilder ever benched over 600 at 275 multiple times.

I'm not trying to compare Dallas to Eric because hes not even close, and obviously one trains for max strength the other is a bodybuilder. And yes Dallas is strong as hell, probably the strongest pro bb around right now. It would be cool to see what he can do if he ever tried powerlifting but I doubt will ever see that.

Just thought trying to compare him to one of the strongest powerlifters to have ever lived is kind of dumb.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2016, 11:06:14 AM »
Lol, where?
Is it under this weight? No. iIs it under that weight? No. Is it in your mind? Yes.


I've yet to hear you complement a white soapy stud yet...

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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2016, 11:24:39 AM »
Most people pull better during a workout than at a meet, take as long as you want between sets, don't have 100s of people watching you, haven't been at a meet all day long by the time deads come around and your body is stiff and tired. Most high level guys can't pull there training max in a full power meet.

The people I trained with trained to peak at their next meet if they were competing.  When I was targeting a bench over 500 I did not attempt my max before the meet. Benching 485 for two gave me a good Idea of how to open and what my safe lifts would be.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2016, 11:52:42 AM »

I've yet to hear you complement a white soapy stud yet...
SMH, repeatedly I have stated that Michael Francois would have given Ronnie fits, and had he not gotten sick, Jay would not be where he was. Dennis Newman was also great. And I have said that Fangs and Big Ben were good, they just need some work. Pay attention, and work those mediocre genetics of yours, and you to can garner my compliments.

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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2016, 12:02:19 PM »
Big Ramy works up to 405LB for 8 reps on bench press. 405 is smart cut-off point. It's enough weight to stimulate the pecs, but it's 100lbs less then the weight that popped Levrone's pec back in '93

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2016, 12:09:05 PM »
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2016, 12:09:30 PM »
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

This.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2016, 12:27:04 PM »
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?
Exactly.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2016, 12:43:43 PM »
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

Well, yeah, that is obvious. And, of course, it makes sense.

However, it does suck knowing that the best bodybuilder in the world only won because he has a great genetic response to drugs, despite training light and not really hard

We often equate hard work with results. So, to most people (not to me), it would "suck" knowing that someone is the best in the world with a half-assed work ethic.
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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2016, 01:55:38 PM »
Why would an ifbb pro even lift heavy weights  ???

With all the drugs they are on they will grow on any style of lifting. Why not lift lighter and save your joints and health and get the same results?

Exactly, that's why Phil is going to last for a while in terms of tendons, and not tearing his muscles

Jay was the same way, lift enough to stimulate

It's useless to do all these heavy 800 pound deadlifts as a bber

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2016, 02:07:55 PM »
Lift light and we criticize them for sticking to machines and lifting like pussies.  Lift heavy and it's "oh what a moron, he's gonna be a cripple by 40"

Dallas probably wont make much noise on the stage, posting impressive lifts like this is a much more effective way to market himself.

And let's be real, if longevity is what you're after, it's best to avoid the bodybuilding stage entirely

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2016, 02:11:16 PM »
The people I trained with trained to peak at their next meet if they were competing.  When I was targeting a bench over 500 I did not attempt my max before the meet. Benching 485 for two gave me a good Idea of how to open and what my safe lifts would be.

I agree I don't believe in maxing out before a meet either but some do, Lilliebridges and there crew all do and it obviously works them, turned out more world record holders than any other gym in the world.

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Re: Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2016, 02:17:07 PM »
Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.

He's already on video pulling 845 (with straps), I believe at the end of a back workout
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« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2016, 02:18:53 PM »
I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?take a look at Ronnie's vids again. Dallas lacks that aura of "I am going to lift the gym, the state, nation, the continent, the whole damn world" type of intensity. And then he smiles and laughs, because he enjoys it.

As a matter of fact, take a look at Ronnie's rehab vids, he approaches the rehab the same damn way.

the only one close is Stan (who had the raw record for a while).  JOJ has never pulled 845 and deads were his speciality
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