Gun attack on Florida gay club.

[residue]

Very convenient to say he was gay (and probably had self-loathing issues) as that would take attention away from him being a member of or affiliated with ISIS.

most of these ultra religious types go on about hating women\gays so much it's a little wonder more of them aren't outed. Mind you i'm a Jew and i'll fully admit among the orthodox fellows in Brooklyn there's loads of them that pay to get fucked in the ass and even more paying to get bashed around by some dominatrix

[The Abdominal Snoman]

If he's gay, then it can't be a hate crime right? Like a black man killing a black man can't be a racist hate crime.

[Skeletor]

If he's gay, then it can't be a hate crime right?

Only if you want it to be.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Only if you want it to be.

[bigkid]

Like a black man killing a black man can't be a racist hate crime.

Shouldn't be a crime at all

[240 is Back]

people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.

Think about that.   Dems, obama, trump all agree with it.    NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.

Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle.   Unreal. 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.

Think about that.   Dems, obama, trump all agree with it.    NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.

Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle.   Unreal.  

Is there an actually Terror watch list? And how far does that list go? What I mean is how many white American cowboy types who live in Montana and have a massive amount of firearms in their home are on one of those watch "lists"? Can they put anyone on a list?

[TuHolmes]

people on the no-fly and terror-watch list can currently walk into a gun store and order a case of AR-15s.

Think about that.   Dems, obama, trump all agree with it.    NRA and Senate Repubs are against it.

Someone is deemed too scary to fly... but they can buy a rifle.   Unreal. 

Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.

[HTexan]

Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.

Yup this.

[240 is Back]

Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.

Bearing arms is a right which is often taken from people.   If you commit white-collar accounting crimes, you cannot own guns.

Yet if you stand up and claim to belong to isis, you can still buy guns.  No limit, no holds, nothing. 

It doesn't make sense to me.   It's not a 1st amendment thing, it's a national security/ aid-and-assist-the-enemy thing while we are at war.   

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Flying isn't a right. Keeping and Bearing arms is.

If they pass a law that anyone on a watch list can't buy guns, they'll just put anyone they want on a "watch" list. Someone who buys say more than one gun could go on a watch list. And then being on a list they lose the right to bear arms. lol Slippery slope not unlike the Patriot act...

[TuHolmes]

If they pass a law that anyone on a watch list can't buy guns, they'll just put anyone they want on a "watch" list. Someone who buys say more than one guy could go on a watch list. And then being on a list they lose the right to bear arms. lol Slippery slope not unlike the Patriot act...

Agreed.

Bearing arms is a right which is often taken from people.   If you commit white-collar accounting crimes, you cannot own guns.

Yet if you stand up and claim to belong to isis, you can still buy guns.  No limit, no holds, nothing. 

It doesn't make sense to me.   It's not a 1st amendment thing, it's a national security/ aid-and-assist-the-enemy thing while we are at war.   

To lose that right you must be found guilty of a felony... In a court of law.

Being placed on a list is arbitrary and you aren not found guilty of any crime to be placed on it.

You know this... I appreciate your trolling on this one, but there is a huge difference between being found guilty of a crime and being placed on some "list".

[240 is Back]

Agreed.

To lose that right you must be found guilty of a felony... In a court of law.

Being placed on a list is arbitrary and you aren not found guilty of any crime to be placed on it.

You know this... I appreciate your trolling on this one, but there is a huge difference between being found guilty of a crime and being placed on some "list".

if a person makes a public statement supporting the enemy, then no crime conviction is needed.  they are saying they'll help the enemy.   as an issue of nat'l security, we have to believe them buying an AR-15 has a good chance of hurting our national security.

[TuHolmes]

if a person makes a public statement supporting the enemy, then no crime conviction is needed.  they are saying they'll help the enemy.   as an issue of nat'l security, we have to believe them buying an AR-15 has a good chance of hurting our national security.

Wrong!

That is not how our constitution works. I am allowed to SAY anything I want. (outside of threatening the POTUS) I am NOT allowed to DO anything I want.

[240 is Back]

Wrong!

That is not how our constitution works. I am allowed to SAY anything I want. (outside of threatening the POTUS) I am NOT allowed to DO anything I want.

You're okay with dudes being able to hold daily anti-USA, pro-ISIS meetings, on US soil, then order crates of AR-15s... as long as they don't break any laws.

At what point are they aiding our enemy at time of war?

[Fortress]

Well then what is this whores solution?

I'd imagine most can approximate at the very least what she's implying and moving toward. Western society and non-Muslims need to better know and understand the absolute threat Islam presents.

That acknowledgement of such goes a long way to facilitate educated discussion of possible ways in which to thwart its ideologies and suppress any and all orthodox Islamic influence in non-Muslim lands.

To quit the PC/peace, tolerance and multiculturalism horseshit and face the uncomfortable truth.

[Nails]

[TuHolmes]

You're okay with dudes being able to hold daily anti-USA, pro-ISIS meetings, on US soil, then order crates of AR-15s... as long as they don't break any laws.

At what point are they aiding our enemy at time of war?

Interesting how you reach to extremes.

However, if my answer isn't clear enough... I will say again. In this country you can SAY whatever you want... It's when you DO something to others, that we have an issue.

You want to police people's thoughts also? Sounds like that's what you're trying to do. Why are you so interested in big brother telling you what to do?

PS... in 1776, they had meetings that were Anti-British... Those meetings created this country we live in today.

That's what makes this country so great.

[illuminati]

Have no love for sodomites, but this is not how one deals with them.

x2 Well Said.

[Pray_4_War]

I was talking to a lesbian friend of mine about this Orlando massacre.  About 5 seconds into the conversation she diverted the discussion to that white "privileged"(her word) college kid who raped the girl and then got a light sentence.  I love her, but she sure has a funny way of seeing the world.  Not to diminish the suffering of the girl that got raped but I would have though my friend would have had a stronger reaction to a bunch of folks like her getting wasted all at once.  This gay club slaughter has created quite a predicament for gay liberals.

[HTexan]

and somebody on 4chan leaked a gay sex of the shooter

[Nails]

and somebody on 4chan leaked a gay sex of the shooter

Wonder how his father is going to spin this

[Pray_4_War]

Milo Yiannopoulos spitting that hot fire again.  From his Twitter account....

"Liberals! If you're not horrified about gay men being thrown to their deaths for Islam, pretend they're throwing gorillas."

[Straw Man]

not regularly, that is true but they share the same mindset

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sacramento-pastor-amid-backlash-defends-sermon-praising-orlando-killings/ar-AAh3LQO?ocid=mailsignout

[Straw Man]

Milo Yiannopoulos spitting that hot fire again.  From his Twitter account....

"Liberals! If you're not horrified about gay men being thrown to their deaths for Islam, pretend they're throwing gorillas."

Where are the "Liberals" who say they are not horrified by that?