Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership :-O

[240 is Back]

I don't really want an AR in a gunfight because I don't want to chop up the neighbors who live 8 houses away.  Multiple backdrops becomes a huge issue there.  


They're great in war where you're okay with your bullet taking a bite out of 3 bad guys.

[Pray_4_War]

I don't really want an AR in a gunfight because I don't want to chop up the neighbors who live 8 houses away.  Multiple backdrops becomes a huge issue there.  


They're great in war where you're okay with your bullet taking a bite out of 3 bad guys.

Tell me what ammo you are using that can penetrate through 8 houses and I'll buy 10 cases immediately.

Or perhaps you don't know jack shit about the ballistics of a 5.56 round.  No offense.

[titusisback]

[240 is Back]

'The Voice Mexico' Singer Shot In Head: Lucero Reacts As Alejandro 'Jano' Fuentes Fights For Life


Source: Latin Times

'The Voice Mexico' Singer Shot In Head: Lucero Reacts As Alejandro 'Jano' Fuentes Fights For Life
By Latin Times | Jun 17 2016, 09:35PM EDT

Alejandro "Jano" Fuentes was a contestant during Season 1 of "La Voz México." The singer is battling for his life after he was shot in the head multiple times in Chicago on Thursday night. NBC Chicago reports that Jano was in his car when a man walked up and ordered him to get out, when Fuentes refused the gunman shot him three times. The unidentified man fled the scene in a car that was a short distance away.

"It's so difficult. We love Jano. Everyone who knows him. We love him and everybody is concerned about it," said Anacelly Nava, Fuentes' friend, according to ABC7 Chicago. ""You can see inside a waiting room full of people who want to see him. He's a beautiful person, he's a loving person, and hopefully he stays with us."

Fuentes runs a school for young performers in the city of Chicago called Tras Bambalinas. He also participated on the Mexican version of "The Voice" where he was coached by Lucero. The Mexican singer has already reacted on social media writing the following: "I ask you for a prayer for Jano Fuentes my great friend, great artist that suffered an accident and is critical during these moments."


Miguel Sanchez, a close friend of Jano told NBC5: "We are feeling confused and we have no explanation why all these things are happening. We are very sad because it's something you don't expect to happen to your close friends." Although they don't know who did this Sanchez adds, "It wasn't random. This guy, they were waiting for him. They were waiting for him to come out of the school.”


Read more: http://www.latintimes.com/voice-mexico-singer-shot-head-lucero-reacts-alejandro-jano-fuentes-fights-life-391076

[240 is Back]

Tell me what ammo you are using that can penetrate through 8 houses and I'll buy 10 cases immediately.

Or perhaps you don't know jack shit about the ballistics of a 5.56 round.  No offense.

I press my own rounds at home, using a combination of gunpowder and creatine.

[calfzilla]

The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.

[timfogarty]

The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.

you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons.  

Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.

[drkaje]

The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.

Taking away the bad kid's stick makes more sense than cutting down the forest.

I can't believe someone came up with a meme that fucking stupid.

[timfogarty]

Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.

from your link

May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?

Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).

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In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older

so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as limiting the ownership of new ones to registered dealers.  Also, states can ban them outright.

[NarcissisticDeity]

from your link

May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?

Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).

searching elsewhere


In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older

so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as banning the manufacturing of new ones, and limiting the ownership of older ones  to registered dealers.

Fuck me you just don't get it.  Any law abiding personal citizen who applies can legally purchase and own a machine gun. NOT just dealers.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/how-can-person-legally-obtain-nfa-firearms

A person may transfer an NFA firearm to another person by filing and receiving an approved ATF Form 4, Application for Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of Firearm.

And again Tim , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are NOT considered " assault weapons " by Federal and State definitions. Please explain to me how these are any less lethal and how they would have prevented any mass shooting. 

[bigmc]

guns dont kill people

people kill people

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at machine gun for sale  http://www.gunbroker.com/item/564134382 Oh no's another one http://www.gunbroker.com/item/565514762

[Never1AShow]

Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.

Tim please see the thread on Rico Piano firing the hell out of an automatic weapon.  That's a machine gun.  Automatic.  All the rest are on trigger pull one bullet.  And you can own them, no problem.

[The Scott]

guns dont kill people

people kill people

Actually guns don't kill people.  Zombies kill people.  Guns kill zombies.
 

[The Scott]

from your link

May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?

Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).

searching elsewhere


In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older

so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as limiting the ownership of new ones to registered dealers.  Also, states can ban them outright.

You're a regular Grand Funk Railroad song in reverse, i.e., T.N.U.C.

Yeah, that is an actual song but you're nowhere near the greatness of GFR, just a T.N.U.C. 

[The Scott]

you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons. 

And AIDS was spread via men boofing men.  Take away their wang and sew their buttholes shut.  You've got no constipational right to buttfuck one another and spread a murderous disease.  I think you must have your penis and anus registered as being STD free and have to pass a course in safe buttsecks every other week and be subject to random condom checks if you want to be a homosexual penis holder (your own or your casual partner).  You want to own a dick and pound butts with it or get your rump rammed?  You need to be regulated and controlled. 

I would say that you need a Concealed Carry because any homosexual penis should be considered a weapon of (m)ass destruction given that you will hump just about anything male that bends over in a truck stop restroom.  This is not true of most homosexuals I have known.  They were just men that preferred men.  Gun owners.  Conservatives.  But you?  Anything goes so long as its what you want and the government pays for it.

How does that sound you pathetic imitation of life?  If something interferes with your constipational rights you get all huffy but if it just removes or violates someone else's Constitutional Rights you don't give a flying fist.    This ain't Uranus, it's Earth. 

[chaos]

If every kid had a stick to start with the first bastard probably wouldn't have hit anyone with his stick!

[drkaje]

And AIDS was spread via men boofing men.  Take away their wang and sew their buttholes shut.  You've got no constipational right to buttfuck one another and spread a murderous disease.  I think you must have your penis and anus registered as being STD free and have to pass a course in safe buttsecks every other week and be subject to random condom checks if you want to be a homosexual penis holder (your own or your casual partner).  You want to own a dick and pound butts with it or get your rump rammed?  You need to be regulated and controlled. 

I would say that you need a Concealed Carry because any homosexual penis should be considered a weapon of (m)ass destruction given that you will hump just about anything male that bends over in a truck stop restroom.  This is not true of most homosexuals I have known.  They were just men that preferred men.  Gun owners.  Conservatives.  But you?  Anything goes so long as its what you want and the government pays for it.

How does that sound you pathetic imitation of life?  If something interferes with your constipational rights you get all huffy but if it just removes or violates someone else's Constitutional Rights you don't give a flying fist.    This ain't Uranus, it's Earth. 

By their logic: The spread of AIDS could have been halted by banning homosexuality.

[240 is Back]

"In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older"


Reagan really did wreck gun rights, many forget that.

There's a pic of me and my brother and my dad.   It must be 83 or 84.  My dad is a FFL (federal firearms dealer) back then.   Taking pics on the couch, an M16 and some hunting rifle just leaning in the corner like umbrellas.  Crazy how times have changed.  Guns were just like power tools or kitchen knives back then.

[HTexan]

By their logic: The spread of AIDS could have been halted by banning homosexuality.

which makes no fucking sense. When shit is illegal, it is more risky. Look at drug addicts and sharing needles.

[The Scott]

which makes no fucking sense. When shit is illegal, it is more risky. Look at drug addicts and sharing needles.

Not every "want" should be legalized. 

[HTexan]

Not every "want" should be legalized. 

You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.

[The Scott]

You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.

True.  Personally I think the death penalty for drug dealers should be used as often as they are caught and proven (important) to be guilty of same.  Heroin is a bitch as are meth and a whole host of other drugs.  I lost my younger brother to suicide as drugs messed him up big time.  His choice, illegal or not.  That stuff is terrible and wreaks havoc on those that take it and those that know and sometimes, love them.

It is not a case of it is what it is, but rather it is what we allow it to be.

[Never1AShow]

You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.

I may agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I think legalizing drugs would mean bodies in the streets by the thousands before things normalized out.  Many more junkies and many more junkies dying from lack of control.  I think there would be massive costs from this, legalize it and let them all OD position also.