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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 01:45:35 AM »
Cant be botherd to read, but a moderate muslim isn't a real muslim, the radical/strict are practicing it as it is meant to be

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 02:12:57 AM »
Cant be bothered to listen, but a moderate muslim isn't a real muslim, the radical/strict are practicing it as it is meant to be

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 02:14:36 AM »
I think there is a some conditioning going on in that meeting. The speaker has this manipulative attitude and speech pattern that make you do as he wishes.









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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 02:16:19 AM »

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 02:40:58 AM »
I know quite a few moderate Muslims. I'd probably just call them cultural Muslims because they identify with the religion for cultural reasons but don't really follow the faith to any proper extent and have little understanding of it's core tenants.
From my experience, these Muslims actually tend to sincerely believe that Islam is a peaceful religion since they view it from a romanticized perspective as they haven't studied it.

What I find concerning is how suddenly many moderate Muslims can start becoming more religious. It's like something switches in their head and they go from normal, intelligent individuals to brainwashed sheeple with zero critical thinking. I've seen it happen to a lesser extent even with an ex-girlfriend.  

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 04:03:23 AM »
I know quite a few moderate Muslims. I'd probably just call them cultural Muslims because they identify with the religion for cultural reasons but don't really follow the faith to any proper extent and have little understanding of it's core tenants.
From my experience, these Muslims actually tend to sincerely believe that Islam is a peaceful religion since they view it from a romanticized perspective as they haven't studied it.

What I find concerning is how suddenly many moderate Muslims can start becoming more religious. It's like something switches in their head and they go from normal, intelligent individuals to brainwashed sheeple with zero critical thinking. I've seen it happen to a lesser extent even with an ex-girlfriend.  

spot on, ive never seen a change over but i can see that happening. happens with christians all the time. one moment they are "christian" because they are raised that way, next....thye meet a guy who runs a bible study class on weekends and now all of a sudden she is super christian, condemning gays and abortions on her facebook feed, reciting scripture, etc lol.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 05:39:29 AM »
Cant be botherd to read, but a moderate muslim isn't a real muslim, the radical/strict are practicing it as it is meant to be

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Exactly. Moderate muslims are ignorant of what the Quran teaches.

Muslim extremists will cut your head off. Moderate muslims will watch or hold your feet while they do it.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 06:14:53 AM »
Cant be botherd to read, but a moderate muslim isn't a real muslim, the radical/strict are practicing it as it is meant to be

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This.

I've met them and they told me they are considered "lightweight" Muslims. The more extreme Sunnis (Wahabis) consider Shiites heretics.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 06:30:45 AM »
I know quite a few moderate Muslims. I'd probably just call them cultural Muslims because they identify with the religion for cultural reasons but don't really follow the faith to any proper extent and have little understanding of it's core tenants.
From my experience, these Muslims actually tend to sincerely believe that Islam is a peaceful religion since they view it from a romanticized perspective as they haven't studied it.

What I find concerning is how suddenly many moderate Muslims can start becoming more religious. It's like something switches in their head and they go from normal, intelligent individuals to brainwashed sheeple with zero critical thinking. I've seen it happen to a lesser extent even with an ex-girlfriend.  

The cultural Muslims are the first to take offense though.  The radicals don't because they know there's a lot of truth in the criticism.  And the cultural/moderates don't turn in all the terror planning antiAmerica spouting radicals they know.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 07:01:32 AM »
This.

I've met them and they told me they are considered "lightweight" Muslims. The more extreme Sunnis (Wahabis) consider Shiites heretics.

Shia are another sect altogether (in which you will have moderates and fundamentalists). All Sunni's consider Shia to be heretics. The Wahhabi's and the Salafi's are just more open and aggressive in their dislike towards the Shia.
IMO, the Shia are useful allies in the fight against radical Islam (which is almost entirely a Sunni Muslim problem) since they know first hand how dangerous Sunni extremists are. I'd like to see the Western nations become more friendly with Assad, Iran and other Shia leaders/nations - much like what Russia and Putin have done. 

The cultural Muslims are the first to take offense though.  The radicals don't because they know there's a lot of truth in the criticism.  And the cultural/moderates don't turn in all the terror planning antiAmerica spouting radicals they know.

The cultural Muslims take offence because they have little knowledge of the religion and have an idealistic opinion of it (much like some Western liberals do too). Therefore, they think the criticism made against Islam is because of bigotry and a lack of understanding. They haven't actually researched their own religion and analyzed it from any rational perspective. The biggest problem I have with Islam is the political aspect of the religion. It isn't just a religious philosophy, it has several components to it that when combined, can make it extremely unpleasant and dangerous - both to the actual believer and to outsiders. 

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 07:03:46 AM »
What I find concerning is how suddenly many moderate Muslims Hebrews can start becoming more religious. It's like something switches in their head and they go from normal, intelligent individuals to brainwashed sheeple with zero critical thinking. I've seen it happen to a lesser extent even with an ex-girlfriend.  
This sounds exactly like Wiggs!

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 08:19:28 AM »
Impossible -- Moderate & Muslim do not go together.

Extreme Religion & Extreme People who Follow / Believe.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 08:47:13 AM »
There is no such thing as moderate, even moderates think gays should be put to death. Their values do not line up with our constitution.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 09:57:42 AM »
As many have stated in this thread a moderate Muslim is basically a fake Muslim. Does not know his religion at all.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2016, 10:02:15 AM »
As many have stated in this thread a moderate Muslim is basically a fake Muslim. Does not know his religion at all.
same with every religion though, true Christians should be sacrificing animals, marrying their widow's siblings and stoning everyone

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 10:24:54 AM »
same with every religion though, true Christians should be sacrificing animals, marrying their widow's siblings and stoning everyone

The main difference between Christianity and Islam is that if believers in both religions were truly following their faith, the Christian will look at Jesus as being the perfect example to follow. Muslims will look towards Muhammad.
Looking at the lives of Jesus and Muhammad from a secular angle, Jesus would at worst be described as being rambling preacher. Could the same be said of Muhammad?
This is the biggest flaw in Islam. Their "perfect man" lived a less than perfect life to put it mildly.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 10:50:51 AM »
The main difference between Christianity and Islam is that if believers in both religions were truly following their faith, the Christian will look at Jesus as being the perfect example to follow. Muslims will look towards Muhammad.
Looking at the lives of Jesus and Muhammad from a secular angle, Jesus would at worst be described as being rambling preacher. Could the same be said of Muhammad?
This is the biggest flaw in Islam. Their "perfect man" lived a less than perfect life to put it mildly.

thing is that Muslim do believe in Jesus.. you can NOT be a muslim IF you don't believe in Jesus.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 11:18:19 AM »
Are there moderate and extremist getbiggers as well?

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2016, 12:54:05 PM »
thing is that Muslim do believe in Jesus.. you can NOT be a muslim IF you don't believe in Jesus.

They believe that Jesus was a prophet but they reject the "Christian" concept of Christ - that he was the son of God and was crucified.
Muhammad's character is the example that Muslims are told to follow.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2016, 06:15:43 PM »
Were their any moderate Nazi's? I look at moderate Muslims who come from Countries where extreme Islam is in control as Crypto-muslims. They're just playing the part as moderate.

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2016, 08:48:40 PM »
Excellent thread speaking many truths about the vile Islam.

To adhere strictly to Islam and its teachings is to be a "radical" or "extremist" Muslim.


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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2016, 09:04:55 PM »
What about gay Muslims? Do they throw themselves off buildings?

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2016, 10:34:25 PM »
Were they any moderate Nazi's?

This is a great question.. *srs*

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Re: Moderate Muslims
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2016, 10:43:45 PM »
They believe that Jesus was a prophet but they reject the "Christian" concept of Christ - that he was the son of God and was crucified.
Muhammad's character is the example that Muslims are told to follow.

Well technically they do.. they word "Christ" Greek: "Christós" Hebrew: Messiah was send by God as a prophet to save the Jews...Muslim believe that.

However the earliest followers of Jesus/Jeshua/Isaah didn't believe he was son of God nor "GOD" i.e: The Ebionites

This makes much more sense, I'm not a religious but I do think they "Romans/Jews/etc." tampered with the word of Jesus/Isaah on the Trinity BS.

Because Idolatry was almost the pillar of the Romans empire, very much like USA Empire.. is based on idols. Jesus was against Idolatry.