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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2016, 03:32:24 PM »
Encouraging things and punishing things are two very different concepts.

What I don't like is the government using taxes to punish.  I think that we should let the courts be in the punishment business.


That wording is subjective interpretation and not really indicative of what's going on. Punish? What court levies $0.45 punishments?  At best, it is a price correction, at worst it is a user fee for a product with very clear health risks associated with it.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2016, 03:34:27 PM »
Its a good thing black folk only drink Grape Juice Pop and Kool Aid

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2016, 03:38:16 PM »
Banning soda and some foods would probably have a bigger effect on society health than banning AR15s.

"probably"?

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2016, 03:41:04 PM »
The point being these sugary drinks did not become so prominent by accident or simply because it's what people like. At a lot of fast food places, it's actually cheaper to buy a larger drink than a smaller drink.  Restaurants literally spend more on ice than they do the syrup to make the soda. The same economics are true for a lot of corn-based junk food sold in supermarkets. So the prices of these items are already artificially low, so that's influencing people's behavior, isn't it?
There is no sugar in a diet soda you moron.

Besides, I eat a ton of sugar everyday and maintain single digit bodyfat.

Fuck you and everyone like you.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2016, 03:42:49 PM »

That wording is subjective interpretation and not really indicative of what's going on. Punish? What court levies $0.45 punishments?  At best, it is a price correction, at worst it is a user fee for a product with very clear health risks associated with it.
There is no health risk to any of it you shit pile.

The same should apply to apples and oranges as well then if sugar is to be the enemy.  You are not bright at all.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2016, 03:45:27 PM »
The point being these sugary drinks did not become so prominent by accident or simply because it's what people like. At a lot of fast food places, it's actually cheaper to buy a larger drink than a smaller drink.  Restaurants literally spend more on ice than they do the syrup to make the soda. The same economics are true for a lot of corn-based junk food sold in supermarkets. So the prices of these items are already artificially low, so that's influencing people's behavior, isn't it?

What do you mean?

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2016, 03:48:51 PM »
What do you mean?
Price per ounce wise it is cheaper.

No idea why that would be a problem at all.

Why blame the soda for putting them in a caloric surplus and not the chicken breast and salad instead that may have pushed them over their caloric limit?

I don't think Al Niggity and people like him understand what calories are and how someone gains and loses fat.

Its pathetic really.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2016, 03:50:55 PM »
There is no sugar in a diet soda you moron.

Besides, I eat a ton of sugar everyday and maintain single digit bodyfat.

Fuck you and everyone like you.


Why don't you just skip the part where you engage in an argument you are not capable of handling, and just jump right to copying and pasting barely relevant walls of text.  ::)

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2016, 03:56:21 PM »

Why don't you just skip the part where you engage in an argument you are not capable of handling, and just jump right to copying and pasting barely relevant walls of text.  ::)
Whats funny is that I eat more sugar in a day than you do probably in a month and I am single digits.

Fuck yourself loser.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2016, 04:01:44 PM »
Price per ounce wise it is cheaper.

No idea why that would be a problem at all.

Why blame the soda for putting them in a caloric surplus and not the chicken breast and salad instead that may have pushed them over their caloric limit?

I don't think Al Niggity and people like him understand what calories are and how someone gains and loses fat.

Its pathetic really.

Oh, per ounce.  Pretty standard business there and not exactly a revelation.

But I suppose some will view it as convenient room to tax.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2016, 04:18:16 PM »
Oh, per ounce.  Pretty standard business there and not exactly a revelation.

But I suppose some will view it as convenient room to tax.

No, not per ounce. Literally cheaper. Until recently, at most McDonald's in New York City , it was $0.10-.15 less expensive to buy an extra large version of a meal than a large, which featured a nominal difference in fry size and something like 8 oz more soda.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2016, 04:21:51 PM »
No, not per ounce. Literally cheaper. Until recently, at most McDonald's in New York City , it was $0.10-.15 less expensive to buy an extra large version of a meal than a large, which featured a nominal difference in fry size and something like 8 oz more soda.

I'll admit to being a little lost on the whole subject, but what's the advantage for the business to do that?

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2016, 04:28:37 PM »
I'll admit to being a little lost on the whole subject, but what's the advantage for the business to do that?


Seriously? You don't understand why a business would offer what seems like a bargain on a product that costs them virtually nothing?  The price-to-size difference in the meals are calculated to make it seem as if going larger is the best deal. The cost difference for McDonalds between a small meal and a large meal is well under $1.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2016, 04:31:11 PM »
Could be wors,  you could live here in sweden
. We have the second highest taxes i think.. For every 100 we make 60 goes to fucking taxes




And we have high taxes because of all the immigrants that dont even want to work or become a responsible human being that works and pays taxes like we others.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2016, 04:33:05 PM »

Seriously? You don't understand why a business would offer what seems like a bargain on a product that costs them virtually nothing?  The price-to-size difference in the meals are calculated to make it seem as if going larger is the best deal. The cost difference for McDonalds between a small meal and a large meal is well under $1.

No, what I don't understand is why they wouldn't simply switch the two prices.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2016, 04:34:28 PM »

Seriously? You don't understand why a business would offer what seems like a bargain on a product that costs them virtually nothing?  The price-to-size difference in the meals are calculated to make it seem as if going larger is the best deal. The cost difference for McDonalds between a small meal and a large meal is well under $1.
Total bullshit.

There is value in going larger and it also depends on what you are including, be it drink or fries.  The cost difference is substantial when quantified in large enough numbers.  You don't know a thing about the fast food industry.

Where the hell are you getting your "talking points".  Making them up I assume.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2016, 04:38:17 PM »
Total bullshit.

There is value in going larger and it also depends on what you are including, be it drink or fries.  The cost difference is substantial when quantified in large enough numbers.  You don't know a thing about the fast food industry.

Where the hell are you getting your "talking points".  Making them up I assume.
Cost drops when volume increases for basically every business on earth.

Other than the sandwich, the only difference in  McDonalds' meals are the size of the soda and the size of the fries.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2016, 04:40:03 PM »
The cost difference drops  when numbers increase for basically every business on earth.

Other than the sandwich, the only difference in between McDonalds' meals are the size of the soda and the size of the fries.
The size of fries from a small to a large is a Huge difference in weight.  Multiply that difference by one day of fries sales and it will be millions and millions of dollars.

Yes, its a huge difference.  ::)

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2016, 04:42:49 PM »
The size of fries from a small to a large is a Huge difference in weight.  Multiply that difference by one day of fries sales and it will be millions and millions of dollars.

Yes, its a huge difference.  ::)

There are probably a few former diagnostic lab sales reps (those who didn't own their performance) who could offer insight regarding the fast food business.

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2016, 04:44:52 PM »
There are probably a few former diagnostic lab sales reps (those who didn't own their performance) who could offer insight regarding the fast food business.


Definitely not adding value at every turn, most of them. 


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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2016, 04:45:02 PM »
Here's a thread that goes into it a little... at least to show the idea is out there, apparently.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110108213320AANzWm1

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2016, 04:45:20 PM »
Definitely not adding value at every turn, most of them. 



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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2016, 04:46:59 PM »
The size of fries from a small to a large is a Huge difference in weight.  Multiply that difference by one day of fries sales and it will be millions and millions of dollars.

Yes, its a huge difference.  ::)

The difference between small  and large fries  is about 1 potato. If you bought it at a grocery store it would be less than a quarter. McDonalds pays bulk prices.  I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make when you say "multiply that difference millions of times"...?  Regardless of how many times it happens a day, the price difference between small and large meals is less than a dollar, far less than the cost McDonald's charges. The cost for McDonalds does not go up because it happens more often.  ::)

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2016, 04:47:09 PM »
Good for them

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Re: Philadelphia became the first major American city with a soda tax
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2016, 04:49:34 PM »
Here's a thread that goes into it a little... at least to show the idea is out there, apparently.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110108213320AANzWm1
When you order a larger size, its cheaper as you will be getting more calories per gram at a lower price than you would had you not "ordered up".