i calculated my current food intake and it's easily 5000kcal with 417g proteins

[anabolichalo]

I told you you would be angry when you started the trening hard.

this is why i fear tren and stick to test and eq for the time being
also insomnia and extreme hairloss

[Ropo]

i work out almost everyday and on weekends i often work out twice a day and also yesterday wwhich was a working day i worked out before work (arms ) and after work (chest)

i do usually 4 - 6 exercises of 3-4 sets per muscle

Just like I think you do. What that means, is simply that you are in continuous state of burnout, and by that your metabolism can't utilize enough protein to your muscles to maintain growth, no matter how much you eat. This is why there is lot's of bodybuilders, but only few who are good enough to the competitions. Ask from yourself, are you training for marathon? If you are, your amount of training is ok, but if you try to get bigger muscles, you never get them that way.

[Van_Bilderass]

Just like I think you do. What that means, is simply that you are in continuous state of burnout, and by that your metabolism can't utilize enough protein to your muscles to maintain growth, no matter how much you eat. This is why there is lot's of bodybuilders, but only few who are good enough to the competitions. Ask from yourself, are you training for marathon? If you are, your amount of training is ok, but if you try to get bigger muscles, you never get them that way.

IF the person posting is the one in the pics and the drug regimen is what he says it is then he has made a lot of quality gains. He has done all the right things. Do you look better than him?

[dj181]

Fuckin hell.
Just eat a normal balanced diet you fucking morons.

all that fucking matters is calories chief

fyi, you don't need that much protien, I'd say that .5 grams per pound is enough

training comes first then gear and "diet" comes in dead last

the looks of my physique have improved greatly (better shape, details, and separation) thanks to harder and more effective training, and my gear intake is even less than before

training is king

[dj181]

It's fucking 29 pence a bag it couldn't be any cheaper?

potatoes are cheaper and more clean so to speak

I had a bb tell me to only eat rice, potatoes and oatmeal for carbs, pasta and white bread were a no no in his opinion

but fuck me! can you get any duller eating that boring ass shit  

[anabolichalo]

dj why are you pretending to be an authority when you just admitted you made zero actual progress (lean body weight increase, arm measure increase etc, strength), just "illusion" progress?

[dj181]

dj why are you pretending to be an authority when you just admitted you made zero actual progress (lean body weight increase, arm measure increase etc, strength), just "illusion" progress?

if you go to the roid section and check my thread my digging the deca you can see some of my progress and you'll see a few comments on this progress

I've maybe gained a few pounds like 2 or 3 but I just look better, these illusion points im talking bout

when I made an arm focus some years back I gained over an inch on each arm while my bodyweight and bodyfat remained the same

I gotta admit that it's hard to explain but maybe I lost pec and lat mass while adding it to my arms 

[anabolichalo]

if you go to the roid section and check my thread my digging the deca you can see some of my progress and you'll see a few comments on this progress

I've maybe gained a few pounds like 2 or 3 but I just look better, these illusion points im talking bout

when I made an arm focus some years back I gained over an inch on each arm while my bodyweight and bodyfat remained the same

I gotta admit that it's hard to explain but maybe I lost pec and lat mass while adding it to my arms 

as long as u gain inches on your arms it's not illusion, it's real progress

when there is no measurable progress, there is no progress

[Ropo]

IF the person posting is the one in the pics and the drug regimen is what he says it is then he has made a lot of quality gains. He has done all the right things. Do you look better than him?

If twat who is eating 5000 calories per day including +400grams of protein is losing weight, he is training too hard. If you and him are too fucking stupid to understand this fact, do you really think I give a shit? At the end, what would be the worst case scenario if he  continue that madness? Serious case of over training, which according to you guys, is just a myth 

[Van_Bilderass]

If twat who is eating 5000 calories per day including +400grams of protein is losing weight, he is training too hard. If you and him are too fucking stupid to understand this fact, do you really think I give a shit? At the end, what would be the worst case scenario if he  continue that madness? Serious case of over training, which according to you guys, is just a myth 

You have no idea what I think of that diet nor what my views are on optimal training. However, if someone has made great progress over time then the right ingredients must have been there to make it possible.

Looking at a snapshot of the scale, one day to the next, says little of the longer term trend. You can be in a calorie surplus and lose 2kg night to morning. It's water and what is in your intestines and bladder etc. What's happening one week or month to the next is what's important. Plus gains come to a halt pretty quickly no matter what unless there is a big change in stimulus (training, drugs, food).
We are ALL stagnant or regressing and regaining most of the time.

[dj181]

during my bp comp days I'd easily make the 65's from a buck 70 just not eating breakkie and drinking strong black coffee to make myself take a good dump, so that's 5 pounds lost just from not eating breakkie and taking a big dump

once I lost my 12 pounds by taking a double dose laxative the night before weigh in, and one more dose the morning of, and I didn't eat or drink anything til weigh in at 6 pm the night before the meet this was only through shitting with the laxatives and no food or water til 6 pm, I used no diuretics or did no sweating for this 12 pound loss

after weigh in I gouged on junk food and Gatorade and weighed in 3 pounds heavier than when I started, so I gained back 15 fucking pounds, so all of the gain/loss was water and "food in the gut/intestines"

so just like van the man said "it's water and what's in your gut"

[anabolichalo]

i'm going to get fucking huge

and there's nothing you bitches can do to stop me

[MAXX]

during my bp comp days I'd easily make the 65's from a buck 70 just not eating breakkie and drinking strong black coffee to make myself take a good dump, so that's 5 pounds lost just from not eating breakkie and taking a big dump

once I lost my 12 pounds by taking a double dose laxative the night before weigh in, and one more dose the morning of, and I didn't eat or drink anything til weigh in at 6 pm the night before the meet this was only through shitting with the laxatives and no food or water til 6 pm, I used no diuretics or did no sweating for this 12 pound loss

after weigh in I gouged on junk food and Gatorade and weighed in 3 pounds heavier than when I started, so I gained back 15 fucking pounds, so all of the gain/loss was water and "food in the gut/intestines"

so just like van the man said "it's water and what's in your gut"

poop itself doesn't weigh much. not even 1 lbs for a big shit.

Piss weighs alot more.

[dj181]

poop itself doesn't weigh much. not even 1 lbs for a big shit.

Piss weighs alot more.

that's true, but the time when I took the laxatives I shit like 4 times all being diarrhea and the last 2 I was basically just shitting water lol

my coach told me that one can have up to 12 pounds of what he called "food in the gut"

his best cut was 21 pounds in half a day going from 241 to make the 220's

they say it's pretty dangerous if you lose more than 10% of your bodyweight in this quick fashion

powerlifters are more reckless than bb

but the question is.... who are the better "athletes" 

[anabolichalo]

dj do you take a lot of stimulants ?

your posts seem to be written by somebody who is really amped up all the time

srs question

[Howard]

to do my dad a favor basically

it's the wedding of his brother's daughter

i dont care about the brother or the daughter

just doing it for my dad

gotta put family first, amirite

If you're dad helped you out with :
1. buying food for your muscle growth needs as a boy
2. spotting  you in the gym
3. having sex with your mom so they could produce YOU

Then by all means do him a solid and show up.

[anabolichalo]

If you're dad helped you out with :
1. buying food for your muscle growth needs as a boy
2. spotting  you in the gym
3. having sex with your mom so they could produce YOU

Then by all means do him a solid and show up.

should have picked a female without MPB genes in her family tho but yes of course my dad is a hero 

[Ropo]

You have no idea what I think of that diet nor what my views are on optimal training. However, if someone has made great progress over time then the right ingredients must have been there to make it possible.

Looking at a snapshot of the scale, one day to the next, says little of the longer term trend. You can be in a calorie surplus and lose 2kg night to morning. It's water and what is in your intestines and bladder etc. What's happening one week or month to the next is what's important. Plus gains come to a halt pretty quickly no matter what unless there is a big change in stimulus (training, drugs, food).
We are ALL stagnant or regressing and regaining most of the time.

So why that great progress isn't anywhere to see? Because the progress in 98% of bodybuilders is only in their minds. They pose at the mirror and admire themselves, but in reality they look like crap. Then there is that 2% who by the pure luck, by the knowledge or by the advise find the right balance, and they became a competitive bodybuilders. When we are talking about a moron, who believes all and every fucking conspiracy theories, we aren't talking about the person who has enough brain matter for even the bodybuilding..

[dj181]

dj do you take a lot of stimulants ?

your posts seem to be written by somebody who is really amped up all the time

srs question

I lay it on thick here, I'm really not this big of a douche IRL 😇

but I do train twice a day every single day and I take some kind of pre-workout before each session

I've been thinking about running balo as a pre-workout, but I'm not sure if I want to get that aggressive 😄

tren ace made me an outright prick, so halo could make it worse

[anabolichalo]

still no weight gain at all

gues i'll have to add another 500kcal

[dj181]

according to mike mentzer he'd train for weeks on end while making constant improvements in the gym i.e. increased training loads while gaining no scale weight and then.... BOOM!!!! He'd add 4 or 5 pounds nearly overnight all the while keeping cals the same

I'm off now to wreak the pecs 😎

[dj181]

just stepped on the scale at the gymnasium and BW is up 3 pounds.... FUCK YEAH!!! 😝

[Simple Simon]

just stepped on the scale at the gymnasium and BW is up 3 pounds.... FUCK YEAH!!! 😝

go and have a piss and a shit.....

[dj181]

go and have a piss and a shit.....

lol

nah, it's quality lean muscle tissue as I can clearly see that I'm thicker and fuller through the pec/delt area

in fact I'm really starting to look like a bodybuilder up there

I could do some damage in light heavies if I could only get that big 😈

[anabolichalo]

lol

nah, it's quality lean muscle tissue as I can clearly see that I'm thicker and fuller through the pec/delt area

in fact I'm really starting to look like a bodybuilder up there

I could do some damage in light heavies if I could only get that big 😈

update pics?