Do Black Lives Really Matter to Democrats?

[Al Doggity]

I am failing to understand your black bullshit?  What information was kept from them that they could not make an informed choice?     Whites did not have any extra or additional information about his policies than blacks.  Do you deny this?

Yes, the people he bothered to reach out to during his campaign did have more information and familiarity with him. If he chose to ignore black media outlets and campaign stops where he could reach a huge democratic constituency then it was a huge campaigning oversight.

[The True Adonis]

Once again, it was a campaign. At certain points, he literally did go door to door, promoting his platform and policies.

And once again, you are clearly in the grips of a maniacal PMS frenzy, because  it doesn't make sense that in one series of posts you complain about blacks being so stupid we ruined the election by participating in it and now you are whining about us being so stupid that we don't wish to participate in our own elections and democracy.  

Oh you blacks did indeed participate.  You participated as a monolithic race yet again where ignorance and stupidity are guiding lights.

Again, what info did whites have that blacks did not get or understand?    Why is it that blacks NEED to be pandered to or else a message gets lost or not understood?  Are they THAT stupid?  That is the only conclusion I can make since they have access to the same information as whites and everyone else.


So you admit that blacks need special treatment in that they are learning impaired and need other ways to process information since the information already was/is readily available?  Is this what you are saying?  

[AD2100]

Do you think Black Lives Matter to Blackphobic rethuglicans, Ron?

[Al Doggity]

Oh you blacks did indeed participate.  You participated as a monolithic race yet again where ignorance and stupidity are guiding lights.

Again, what info did whites have that blacks did not get or understand?    Why is it that blacks NEED to be pandered to or else a message gets lost or not understood?  Are they THAT stupid?  That is the only conclusion I can make since they have access to the same information as whites and everyone else.

So you admit that blacks need special treatment in that they are learning impaired and need other ways to process information since the information already was/is readily available?  Is this what you are saying?  

At this point you keep repeating the same thing, so let me ask you this: Why do you think the campaigning process is so long? It's like a two year cycle. Why do you think it's not just a two or three week process? Why do you think candidates travel all over the country, multiple times, instead of just sending out an email blast?

I seriously am hoping you answer.  Do you think campaigning makes any difference at all?

[The True Adonis]

Pure idiocy. You're talking about politically involved people who supported a candidate who campaigned for their vote. You're talking about a candidate who did not have support from a community he virtually ignored.

Ignored?  He talked directly about issues that affect black Camoonities, NEARLY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SPEECH.  Hillary did not do this at all, nor did she make even a quarter of the campaign stops in the South or give even a fraction of a quarter of speeches.  Hillary did not even hold any press conferences (still hasn't) whereas Bernie had several a week.  Bernie was also on TV programs, news stations as much as possible.  Hillary was not and STILL is not.  Her campaign strategy was "The less you see and know of her, the better".  Hell, she did not even bother going to some states whereas Bernie went to all states.


If anyone did enough, it was Bernie.  You can pull their schedules and see the proof.

Again, the only conclusions you can draw is that blacks are really that stupid that they need special treatment and special explaining to.  The news networks, the entire internet and the rest are not enough for blacks.  You even admit yourself that that blacks need this special treatment.  Its what is known as the soft bigotry of low expectations.  You have just told us they are too dumb to seek out info via conventional means and that they need special preaching to whereas whites, and everyone else do not require this.

Its pathetic really and we can only conclude that they really are that stupid.  Perhaps even dumber than we, (even you, may realize).  You seem to not expect much from them either as you admit they need special treatment in order to understand basic concepts.  

[Al Doggity]

Ignored?  He talked directly about issues that affect black Camoonities, NEARLY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SPEECH.  Hillary did not do this at all, nor did she make even a quarter of the campaign stops in the South or give even a fraction of a quarter of speeches.  Hillary did not even hold any press conferences (still hasn't) whereas Bernie had several a week.  Bernie was also on TV programs, news stations as much as possible.  Hillary was not and STILL is not.  Her campaign strategy was "The less you see and know of her, the better".  Hell, she did not even bother going to some states whereas Bernie went to all states.


If anyone did enough, it was Bernie.  You can pull their schedules and see the proof.

Once again, even his own campaign staff doesn't believe that.


Seriously, why do you think the campaign process is so long?

[The True Adonis]

Once again, even his own campaign staff doesn't believe that.


Seriously, why do you think the campaign process is so long?

Uniquely American.  Why are blacks so stupid in that they can't process or access the correct information despite having a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG campaign season.  You are just digging yourself deeper here.  

[epic_alien]

Uniquely American.  Why are blacks so stupid in that they can't process or access the correct information despite having a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG campaign season.  You are just digging yourself deeper here.  

why do you live in the south if you dislike blacks so much? 

[The True Adonis]

why do you live in the south if you dislike blacks so much?  

Still the best place to live for tons of reasons.  Everyone is segregated mostly and blacks and whites are more real towards each other and do not fake it like they do in California and other places.  That allows existing with each other more pleasant and relations are friendly and not phony.

Even if not segregated, the truthfulness is there and blacks and whites are friends despite differences in culture.  Everyone else just fakes it and that is fucked up.

[Al Doggity]

Uniquely American.  Why are blacks so stupid in that they can't process or access the correct information despite having a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG campaign season.  You are just digging yourself deeper here.  

  You completely missed the point. What is it that candidates are trying to accomplish by campaigning?

[The True Adonis]

You completely missed the point. What is it that candidates are trying to accomplish by campaigning?

Why did Hillary do less than Bernie in appealing to blacks (why do they need to be appealed to like children in the first place  ), yet earn more of their vote.

Are they stupid, like children or something?

[Al Doggity]

Why did Hillary do less than Bernie in appealing to blacks (why do they need to be appealed to like children in the first place  ), yet earn more of their vote.

Are they stupid, like children or something?

Why are you dodging the question?  When candidates campaign, what are they trying to accomplish? 

[The True Adonis]

Why are you dodging the question?  When candidates campaign, what are they trying to accomplish?  

Uh to get their message out.  

Hillary did as little as possible campainging with ALL voters.  She campaigned the LEAST out of any candidate in recent history.

[Al Doggity]

Uh to get their message out.  

Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. Like it shouldn't have to be addressed. It's fairly obvious that for a political campaign to be successful, it must do a good job of getting it's message out to voters. Yet, when you add "black"  to the equation, your brain just collapsed in on itself. Suddenly, it's the responsibility of blacks to seek out the candidate. Hillary was a controversial candidate, but Sanders wasn't President in waiting. If he had run a more effective campaign, he would have had a stronger shot. Bernie blew it. Plain and simple.


You are really all over the place with your arguments  and it's pretty obvious you don't really buy them. They don't even make sense when taken as a whole. You're upset because your candidate lost and you're lashing out. You really are acting like a little girl.

[mr.turbo]

Like I said earlier in this thread in a post you responded to:

http://fusion.net/story/323539/how-bernie-sanders-lost-black-voters/

It takes outreach. But several former members of Sanders’ black outreach team told me the campaign didn’t believe pulling black voters from Clinton was a real possibility; the white vote, the staffers said, was the campaign’s priority.

Tatem told me that his department was underfunded, making it almost impossible to do the necessary work in the Southern states that voted on Super Tuesday, March 1.

“We had to go through so many hoops to get resources, it felt like we had to fill out credit card applications every time we asked for something,” Tatem told me on the phone. “That’s how it felt.”


You can google dozens of other articles detailing how Bernie pretty much ignored campaigning for one of the most important segments in the democratic party while Hillary aggressively courted us.

accepting the tactical argument about persuasion, which is mixed even based on the sources you're offering, there is still the outstanding issue of policy. Part of the democratic process is actually being informed about policy in order to make decisions in ones own interest. You cannot put this onto anyone else despite campaign shortcomings. In fact that educational process needs to continue outside of the election framework.

Do you not think this is a real problem that needs to be addressed?

[Al Doggity]

accepting the tactical argument about persuasion, which is mixed even based on the sources you're offering, there is still the outstanding issue of policy. Part of the democratic process is actually being informed about policy in order to make decisions in ones own interest. You cannot put this onto anyone else despite campaign shortcomings.

Like I just said a few posts ago, Bernie wasn't president in waiting. I haven't harped on it in the context of this discussion simply because I was a Bernie supporter, but he didn't deserve the job just because he showed an interest. He had to mount a competent campaign. Whether or not you like us, blacks are still American voters. If the majority of us found Hillary's policies (or her personae or her professionalism) more compelling, then that's how it works and it's how it has worked in every previous election.  Furthermore, since the only thing more worthless than black lives are black votes, it's worth pointing out that among white voters, Bernie didn't exactly blow Hillary out of the water.

[LittleJ]

Your article also said this:  "Black people did not understand how his policies would help them"

Really?     They are too fucking stupid to want tuition free college, a higher standard of living, a living wage, Single Payer Healthcare, laser focus on domestic manufacturing, ensuring jobs do not go overseas, getting money out of politics and on and on.  They are that fucking pathetically brain dead that they don't know how that would improve their lives?     Really?  I guess so, since your article says that.

It also says that they did not like that he told them he was against reparations for blacks.  Who in their right mind would think anyone would support that bullshit?  Hell, even Hillary would NEVER support something so stupid is that.

Face it, they are just stupid and racist.  Not much else to conclude really.

You've never worked a day in your life. No job, no degree, nothing! Your parents gave you everything. You're a failure! I can't believe( well yes I can) why Ron and the mods would still allow you to post on here. Then I remember, they share some of the same hatred towards black people.

[Never1AShow]

Can't believe no one posted this yet:

[The True Adonis]

Can't believe no one posted this yet:

He even let them speak.  Had that been Hillary, her Secret Service would have pummeled them into oblivion.

[LittleJ]

He even let them speak.  Had that been Hillary, her Secret Service would have pummeled them into oblivion.

When are you going to get a job? Why do you depend on handouts from mommy and daddy?

[Simple Simon]

When are you going to get a job? Why do you depend on handouts from mommy and daddy?

Where would you work if you didnt have to?

[Thin Lizzy]

Can't believe no one posted this yet:

Now you know why Bernie left Brooklyn.

[LittleJ]

Bump for unemployed Adam

[mr.turbo]

Like I just said a few posts ago, Bernie wasn't president in waiting. I haven't harped on it in the context of this discussion simply because I was a Bernie supporter, but he didn't deserve the job just because he showed an interest. He had to mount a competent campaign. Whether or not you like us, blacks are still American voters. If the majority of us found Hillary's policies (or her personae or her professionalism) more compelling, then that's how it works and it's how it has worked in every previous election.  Furthermore, since the only thing more worthless than black lives are black votes, it's worth pointing out that among white voters, Bernie didn't exactly blow Hillary out of the water.

seems like you want to complain about the status quo while claiming that's "how it works". not computing.

nobody finds hillary "compelling" she's terrible and you know it. lol. policy matters and you know that too! of course TA's analysis is ridiculous but there's no dispute the black folks chose the wrong person. If bernie sat at home and drank beer all day it wouldn't change a thing. it's the wrong person, wrong button pushed for no good reason.

[LittleJ]

I would never vote for Hillary