Obama Admn sent $400 in hard cash to Iran as 4 hostages freed - WSJ

[Kazan]

It was their money. Is it even possible to pay a ransom with money that was theirs in the first place?

Well let me see, take over the US embassy and destroy it, then take American citizens captive for 444 days. I would say we don't own then a fucking thing.

[Skeeter]

Well let me see, take over the US embassy and destroy it, then take American citizens captive for 444 days. I would say we don't own then a fucking thing.

Overthrow their democratically elected government in 1953 and install an oppressive military dictator. I`d say you owe them a lot.

[Kazan]

Overthrow their democratically elected government in 1953 and install an oppressive military dictator. I`d say you owe them a lot.

Nope, fuck Iran


Once they overthrew the Shah, that country became the Islamic Republic of Iran. A completely different animal.

[Skeeter]

Nope, fuck Iran

30 years of oppressive dictatorship is much worse than 52 hostages for 444 days, none of whom died. Thousands were killed under the Shah. It`s pretty understandable that the Iranians would be a pissed about it too.

[Kazan]

30 years of oppressive dictatorship is much worse than 52 hostages for 444 days, none of whom died. Thousands were killed under the Shah. It`s pretty understandable that the Iranians would be a pissed about it too.

Cry me a river, don't care, fuck them - You have mistaken me for someone who is PC, I'm not. Give 400 mil to the largest state sponsor of terrorism, this could only make sense to a retard.

[Skeeter]

Cry me a river, don't care, fuck them - You have mistaken me for someone who is PC, I'm not. Give 400 mil to the largest state sponsor of terrorism, this could only make sense to a retard.

It`s their money, and the US created the environment for the 1979 revolution.
Way off topic anyway.

[Kazan]

It`s their money, and the US created the environment for the 1979 revolution.
Way off topic anyway.

The Shah ordered\paid for military equipment, once the Iranian government was abolished and the Islamists took over, the deal was Null and VOID. Whatever it was a ransom payment, and anyone with a brain in their head knows it.

[Skeeter]

It was their money. The money itself was held ransom.

[240 is Back]

to be clear...

it was an outstanding debt, and one of their conditions for releasing 4 american spies was to deliver the money we already owed?

IF it was a past agreed up debt that we were just dragging feet on - then I don't see a huge deal.  If you want your spies back, go ahead and pay us back at the same time.   Not unreasonable?

But if it was a newly invented debt, yes, that was a ransom payoff, definitely.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/white-house-admits-400-million-payment-may-have-funded-terrorism


 

[Kazan]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/white-house-admits-400-million-payment-may-have-funded-terrorism


 

[Skeeter]

The US supports a lot more terrorism than Iran does.

[Coach is Back!]

Yes, because once again the release at the same time had nothing to do with it

[240 is Back]

Yes, because once again the release at the same time had nothing to do with it

of course it had something to do with it.   I started a thread about it on poli long before you did so on gossip board.

but is it ransom $, or is it an outstanding debt whose repayment was part of the bigger deal package that came in place with getting our spies back?

a grownup knows shit like this happens.  we got caught, we want our people back, and if you want to suddenly give a shit about funding terrorism, maybe it's time to reconsider your 2008 presidential vote, coach

[Soul Crusher]

of course it had something to do with it.   I started a thread about it on poli long before you did so on gossip board.

but is it ransom $, or is it an outstanding debt whose repayment was part of the bigger deal package that came in place with getting our spies back?

a grownup knows shit like this happens.  we got caught, we want our people back, and if you want to suddenly give a shit about funding terrorism, maybe it's time to reconsider your 2008 presidential vote, coach

Coach voted voted for Obama ?    GTFO

[240 is Back]

Trump doubled down on stupid today - after mistakenly telling a story of the $ exchange video.

Today he re-explained the tape in great detail - and STILL doubled down on this completely faked story.   I mean, his staff had already said it wasn't correct - but he waits a day and just tells the same incorrect story about how, clear as day, he watched the pallets of $ just roll off the plane.


This is a man who isn't connecting with facts, or reality.  He's re-telling a story that was proven wrong, and his staff agreed.  He isn't listening to them or just gives no fcks and will tell an obviously false story because it makes uninformed people cheer.

[Dos Equis]

The US supports a lot more terrorism than Iran does.

You mean Iran is not the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world? 

[TuHolmes]

You mean Iran is not the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world? 

Pretty sure it is.

[Dos Equis]

Pretty sure it is.

Reminded me of this:

Heard Congressman Lieu speak about this over the weekend.  One of few Democrats with the stones to take a tough stand.  The most disturbing things:

1.  This deal allows the no. 1 state sponsor of terror with immediate access to billions of dollars. 

2.  Beginning in year 8 and continuing to year 15, Iran gets to all have everything back they are giving up, which will allow them to develop ballistic nuclear weapons that can reach the U.S. in year 15. 

3.  Before year 15, Iran will be able use the billions in revenue to develop their infrastructure, military, etc., making disarming them after year 15 impossible without substantial ground forces. 

4.  The likelihood of Israel taking preemptive action in Iran before year 15 is very high. 

You can find his comprehensive written objection to the deal here:  http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/10/blue-state-blues-l-a-media-silent-as-ted-lieu-rejects-iran-deal/

[Coach is Back!]

of course it had something to do with it.   I started a thread about it on poli long before you did so on gossip board.

but is it ransom $, or is it an outstanding debt whose repayment was part of the bigger deal package that came in place with getting our spies back?

a grownup knows shit like this happens.  we got caught, we want our people back, and if you want to suddenly give a shit about funding terrorism, maybe it's time to reconsider your 2008 presidential vote, coach

Your delusional lies are getting deeper and deeper. I called for Obama's execution on the basis of treason and you suggest that I voted for him. Fuck you... A DEAD seriously fuck you, you liberal liar. The gloves are off. You're proof positive that you never trust a liberal.

Go ahead liar, prove it.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach voted voted for Obama ?    GTFO

You're not that gullible. Stop

[240 is Back]

Your delusional lies are getting deeper and deeper. I called for Obama's execution on the basis of treason and you suggest that I voted for him. Fuck you... A DEAD seriously fuck you, you liberal liar. The gloves are off. You're proof positive that you never trust a liberal.

Go ahead liar, prove it.

LOL!   You thought I was saying you voted for obama?   No, that's silly.   Re-read what I wrote:

if you want to suddenly give a shit about funding terrorism, maybe it's time to reconsider your 2008 presidential vote, coach

   I know very well you voted mccain in 2008, coach.   

[Coach is Back!]

LOL!   You thought I was saying you voted for obama?   No, that's silly.   Re-read what I wrote:

Did you miss James' thread, coach, which mentions Mccain in a less-than-flattering light?      Mccain was your 2008 vote, Coach...

I'm on here are night for about 15 min. I'm not on a computer 24/7. No, I didn't read it.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach voted voted for Obama ?    GTFO

?

[Coach is Back!]

LOL!   You thought I was saying you voted for obama?   No, that's silly.   Re-read what I wrote:

   I know very well you voted mccain in 2008, coach.   

You voted Obama, twice. I warned you in 2008 how this would end up. Now it's much worse that anyone could have expected x 100