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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #125 on: August 08, 2016, 02:37:45 PM »
All I read was Hillary isn't much better, lol. Anyone who thinks she is even the tiniest bit better (240) is absolutely
crazy.

I should have defined what I meant about her being not much better. I was strictly referencing their honesty. If Hillary's lied (and I suspect she has) she's done a better job of it. The whole idea is to not get caught in a lie. The Trumps are caught lying almost daily, it seems. With Hillary it all about those missing emails. Being secretive is tantamount to lying by omission. Frankly, it a better way to lie. Even when caught, omission can be explained as a loss of memory. When folks blatantly lie and then contradict themselves as have the Trumps, it gives them away as liars. There's no covering these lies up. 

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #126 on: August 08, 2016, 02:41:32 PM »
the thread is about Melania getting caught with her panties down, again

is it ok to actually discuss the fact that she is an illegal or are we required to ignore it when she fucks up?

Yet Clinton was in charge.  So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #127 on: August 08, 2016, 02:43:44 PM »
Yet Clinton was in charge.  So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?

???

What are we talking about here?

I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?


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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #128 on: August 08, 2016, 02:53:28 PM »
What are we talking about here?

I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?



It is a matter of realism versus some painfully distorted "point" about hypocrisy.  It is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in my life.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #129 on: August 08, 2016, 02:58:46 PM »
My best friend when I first got to LA in the early 80s was Jesse Zamora.  He was the youngest of seven boys, born in Juarez Mexico.  His mother was Japanese and his father a proud Mexican.  All his brothers looked Mexican, but only he looked mixed.  His father insisted that his mother must have had an affair, and beat Jesse relentlessly.  When Jesse was 14, his mom sent him to San Diego to live with cousins.  He walked across the border into El Paso, and took a Greyhound bus to San Diego.  Living with his cousins didn't work out and within a year he was on the streets.  He moved to Hollywood, enrolled himself into Hollywood High, turning tricks on Selma Ave for rent money.  Finished high school.  Applied for a social security number and got it (little documentation was required at the time.)  Tried to enlist in the army, but they did require a birth certificate.  Went to college, got an LVN, then an RN then a bachelor's degree.  Worked as an oncology nurse for Kaiser in Long Beach.  1986 amnesty came along, but one of the exceptions was no amnesty for HIV positive people.  He talked to Gloria Alred who was not quite famous yet.  She said, you already have a social security number and a job, why risk it.  Then in 1990, he got MAC, Mycobacterium avium complex, an opportunistic infection that was rather common in the early days of AIDS.  He checked himself into a hospice and basically starved himself to death.  Which is really sad, as new meds for MAC appeared within a year, and protease inhibitors that made HIV manageable were available within three years.  

I can tell you happier stories.  A friend from an Arab country came here for graduate school, got infected (we older gays were not doing a good enough job teaching the younger gays how to stay negative.  fortunately now there is PrEP), stayed past his student visa, as going back would have been a death sentence.  After many years he finally got asylum.

I have other stories I can tell, but I'll stop for now.

These are good stories. It is such a shame that many young people don't practice safe sex. I've lost a few friends to AIDS over the years. It is sad when someone dies regardless of what they die from.

I only know one person who has political asylum. He's from South America. I'm not sure which country, but he maintains if he were to return there, it would result in his death.

Homosexuality is legal in almost all South American countries. In the two countries where it is illegal (Belize and Guyana), but it is not punishable by death.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #130 on: August 08, 2016, 03:10:02 PM »
in 2000 the incarceration rate of foreign nationals was 3% lower than US nationals

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798


A correction is in order. I should have inserted the word perception. Someone once said that perception is everything. Many folks don't care if a statement is accurate as long as it supports what they already believe.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #131 on: August 08, 2016, 03:29:44 PM »
Yes.  I'm sorry, too.

But how is it that dick found its way into his ass?  Was he unaware that behavior could kill him?

-Seems apparent. However you'd have to know when he became infected, not when he got sick. If it was in the very early 80's he as with many other folks might not have been aware of the possible ramifications of having unprotected sex.

It is also possible that he was aware, but believed himself invincible. There are more than a few Getbiggers who brag about "going raw". These people are either incredibly stupid or they honestly believe HIV couldn't happen to them....especially when they are straight. The percentage of heterosexual men with HIV in 2010 was approximately 30%.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #132 on: August 08, 2016, 03:44:52 PM »
Yet Clinton was in charge.  So how does her fuck-up compare to his, again?

???

the thread title says "melania" it's not that complicated

you want to talk about bill clinton?

start a new thread!
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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #133 on: August 08, 2016, 03:45:43 PM »
What are we talking about here?

I really am confused at the points people are making. They are getting convoluted. Do you mean "Bill" was in charge, and we are comparing hers to his?



I'm confused too?

what the fuck is going on here???

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #134 on: August 08, 2016, 03:48:42 PM »
It is a matter of realism versus some painfully distorted "point" about hypocrisy.  It is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in my life.

I still don't think I understand the question or statement.

It really has become a bit tangled in the conversation right now.

Perhaps I should just bow out.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #135 on: August 08, 2016, 03:55:07 PM »

Quoting this because it seems as if people are missing some of the technicalities. As far as we know, she was never in the country illegally. She worked illegally. She likely would not have gotten her green card if this information was known.

And this is because....if she violated the conditions of her visitor's visa, she committed fraud. There is no legal punishment for people who lie during their partner's political campaign, as is probably the case with Melania Trump. It's up to the voting public what the consequences will be.

This one goes to Calfzilla.

"How Can I Get a Work Visa?

There are several different types of work visas that may be available to you based upon your qualifications and immigration situation.

One visa that many foreign workers pursue is the H-1B visa. The H-1B allows a foreign worker to temporarily work for a U.S. employer in a specialty occupation.

To apply for an H-1B, your employer must file an I-129 petition with USCIS. In this petition, your employer will note that you are already in the U.S. in B-1 or B-2 status, and will ask that USCIS do two things: (1) change your status to that of H-1B and (2) extend your status for a specified period of time (usually three years) so that you can work for the employer.

Since you are not authorized to work in the U.S. while on B-1 or B-2 status, you must change your status to one that allows you to work in the United States. (You file this application with United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, or “USCIS”). If you file your change of status application, you are deemed to be maintaining lawful status while your application is pending, even if your B1/2 status expires."


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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #136 on: August 08, 2016, 03:59:02 PM »
And this is because....if she violated the conditions of her visitor's visa, she committed fraud. There is no legal punishment for people who lie during their partner's political campaign, as is probably the case with Melania Trump. It's up to the voting public what the consequences will be.

This one goes to Calfzilla.

"How Can I Get a Work Visa?

There are several different types of work visas that may be available to you based upon your qualifications and immigration situation.

One visa that many foreign workers pursue is the H-1B visa. The H-1B allows a foreign worker to temporarily work for a U.S. employer in a specialty occupation.

To apply for an H-1B, your employer must file an I-129 petition with USCIS. In this petition, your employer will note that you are already in the U.S. in B-1 or B-2 status, and will ask that USCIS do two things: (1) change your status to that of H-1B and (2) extend your status for a specified period of time (usually three years) so that you can work for the employer.

Since you are not authorized to work in the U.S. while on B-1 or B-2 status, you must change your status to one that allows you to work in the United States. (You file this application with United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, or “USCIS”). If you file your change of status application, you are deemed to be maintaining lawful status while your application is pending, even if your B1/2 status expires."



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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #137 on: August 08, 2016, 04:00:21 PM »
Lots of liberal frustrated homos hating on Melania's hot ass, jealous that she gets all the Trump cock.

Yikes! Most "homos" would not want "the Trump cock" even if it were handed to them on a silver platter. Your theory reads like a horror story.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #138 on: August 08, 2016, 04:30:37 PM »
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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #139 on: August 08, 2016, 05:23:26 PM »
Bill Clinton spoke for 3 hours at the DNC Convention about what a wonderful, amazing, caring woman Hillary Clinton is.

If that is true Bill....why do you cheat on her so often?

Watch what they do, not what they say. Mathis is similar to how the left and liberals absolutely hate Teump with a passion.  That's great evidence that he ain't no liberal or leftist and would not enact all the loony things the left wants.  They are afraid that their days of radical group identity politics is ending.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #140 on: August 08, 2016, 05:27:15 PM »
I only know one person who has political asylum. He's from South America. I'm not sure which country, but he maintains if he were to return there, it would result in his death.

Unable to get meds would be a death sentence.  Right now it is virtually impossible to get meds in Venezuela. 

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #141 on: August 08, 2016, 05:33:03 PM »
Unable to get meds would be a death sentence.  Right now it is virtually impossible to get meds in Venezuela. 

Hmm....I don't think I will pursue this with him....could be an embarrassment depending on what the meds are for.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #142 on: August 08, 2016, 10:56:29 PM »
I still don't think I understand the question or statement.

It really has become a bit tangled in the conversation right now.

Perhaps I should just bow out.

It means the Clinton backers trying to make a case for hypocrisy against Trump in this situation, have lost their minds.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #143 on: August 08, 2016, 11:00:13 PM »
the thread title says "melania" it's not that complicated

you want to talk about bill clinton?

start a new thread!

If you aren't trying to use this to "show" why Trump is an inferior choice to Clinton, then perhaps you could remind me exactly wtf it is you think you're doing.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #144 on: August 09, 2016, 10:40:15 AM »
If you aren't trying to use this to "show" why Trump is an inferior choice to Clinton, then perhaps you could remind me exactly wtf it is you think you're doing.

wow holy shit so confusing melania clinton trump wtf?!?!?

keep to the topic melania did something wrong and got caught again

we need to explore this subject in detail!!
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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #145 on: August 09, 2016, 10:54:51 AM »
wow holy shit so confusing melania clinton trump wtf?!?!?

keep to the topic melania did something wrong and got caught again

we need to explore this subject in detail!!

Fact is, it is Clinton vs. Trump.  Unless you know something to say different.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #146 on: August 09, 2016, 11:35:04 AM »
Fact is, it is Clinton vs. Trump.  Unless you know something to say different.

SEEMS YOU'RE HELLBENT ON CHANGING THE SUBJECT
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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #147 on: August 09, 2016, 11:44:05 AM »
SEEMS YOU'RE HELLBENT ON CHANGING THE SUBJECT

Not if the subject is "see, here's why Trump is an inferior candidate to Clinton".

Which we know, exactly, is meant to be the subject.

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2016, 11:45:49 AM »
Made by a guy named red gook (or something).

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Re: Melania Trump Probably An Illegal Immigrant
« Reply #149 on: August 09, 2016, 12:43:22 PM »
Not if the subject is "see, here's why Trump is an inferior candidate to Clinton".

Which we know, exactly, is meant to be the subject.

we have other threads for that, I'd like to invite you participate in the TRUMP LOVES PECKER thread where such matters can be discussed.  We are here to talk about melania and her exploitation of the US immigration system. Seems she's an illegal immigrant or at least she has acted questionably in her efforts to become a citizen. not sure if she used an illegal visa or was married. maybe she paid someone to marry her or it was a deal where she simply provided sexual services in exchange for an agreement to marry her. maybe she was a mail order bride? who knows!??!

we need to get to the bottom of this asap.
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