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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2016, 03:11:44 PM »
What is the max sentence for a 16 year old kid?

And I may be incorrect but 'mental issues' do seem to be the lawyer's  line of defense for obviously guilty parties.

None of you GetBiggers may remember this, but society used to lock up such 'nental individuals' in mental institutions (often called "Nut Houses") but I think it wad Ronald Regan who put an end to that and released them all.

The only thing missing was some ape yelling "World Star"..

That is straight up attempted homicide. That kid could have died, and surely will have long lasting repercussion as a result of this lowlife. A smart judge would sentence him to lengthy probation. This would surely result in him breaking probation and thus ensure he ends up with an adult sentence.




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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2016, 03:33:29 PM »
And the mother sticking up for him ::) no wonder kids act like they do. The dad is probably locked up and his mom should be..
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2016, 03:37:09 PM »
BB, Thanks for your response regarding Pres Regan and the closure of the mental institutions way back when.

Is seems to be an interesting subject and I do plan to see if I can find the details regarding those closures.

I believe that most of those 'hospitals' within California were physically located within NAPA which is now one of the major wine vineyards in the world.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2016, 03:59:32 PM »
BB, Thanks for your response regarding Pres Regan and the closure of the mental institutions way back when.

Is seems to be an interesting subject and I do plan to see if I can find the details regarding those closures.

I believe that most of those 'hospitals' within California were physically located within NAPA which is now one of the major wine vineyards in the world.

This was a pretty good article on it from the 80's -

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all .

These two Acts are big ones in the curtailing of the mental institution use, and subsequent closure -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act.

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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2016, 05:04:39 PM »
This was a pretty good article on it from the 80's -

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html?pagewanted=all .

These two Acts are big ones in the curtailing of the mental institution use, and subsequent closure -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Mental_Health_Act.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanterman–Petris–Short_Act.

I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.

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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2016, 05:07:15 PM »
I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.

Won't get an argument from me :).

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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2016, 07:45:03 PM »
Yet another guess the colour
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Just can't wish enough bad thinks on that lad

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2016, 07:53:13 PM »
that attack was brutal

that black kid,  here is an example of  a generation of men  being raised by women, he is pretty much doomed.


he is lucky he didnt kill that other kid as well

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2016, 08:18:05 PM »
that attack was brutal

that black kid,  here is an example of  a generation of men  being raised by women, he is pretty much doomed.


he is lucky he didnt kill that other kid as well
But white people are the racists?? Blacks have now proven time and time again they are cowards. Any white person that still believes the MSM's false narrative that blacks are the victims is a moron.

Real big of this piece of shit black coward to attack this younger white kid from behind. There is no honor in these vermin. They should just be fucking exterminated by removing their capability to reproduce. Whites would have had a colony on Mars by now if it wasn't for these blacks holding them back with their fucking bullshit. Just sterilize them now and get it over with! Nothing good will come from having a few million more of these useless bipeds running around!

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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2016, 09:56:15 PM »
I'll await SF1900's response, but mental institutions were a good thing. Most of the homeless that are out on the streets today have mental problems and should've been institutionalized.

Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.
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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2016, 10:27:24 PM »
was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2016, 05:41:10 AM »
Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.


sf i agree he is not mentally ill that was a cold and calculated attack.   

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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2016, 05:48:57 AM »
Stupid little pussy black bastard, hopefully one day someone will seriously hurt the cu nt badly
;D you are so right dude

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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2016, 07:37:50 AM »
just a misguided hillary supportrr
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2016, 07:59:15 AM »
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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2016, 09:29:53 AM »

sf i agree he is not mentally ill that was a cold and calculated attack.   

Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.


yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.

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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2016, 09:44:29 AM »
Labeling everyone as "mentally ill" stigmatizes those people who actually struggle with mental illness on a daily basis. People then come to perceive people with mental illness as violent criminals. Now, of course, people with mental illness can commit violent crimes; however, as I previously stated, people with mental illness are more often than not the victims of a violent crime. The majority of people with mental illness DO NOT act like this 16-year old.


sf do  you think when the jury convicts jamal   and sends him down to angola and hes getting raped by his cell mates tyrone and rayvon, he will be thinking  dayum   i shoulda stayed home that day and listed to my jay z  rap songs instead of trying to skill that lil honkey white boy

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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2016, 09:49:30 AM »

yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.

He may be exhibiting signs of antisocial personality disorder (though, you can't diagnose someone with a personality disorder until they reach 18 years of age). However, when the media uses "mentally ill," they are often not referring to this. They just throw around the word for whatever reason; maybe it draws attention.

There is no cure for antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy). Treatment may help, but they are extremely difficult cases to work with.
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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2016, 09:51:11 AM »

sf do  you think when the jury convicts jamal   and sends him down to angola and hes getting raped by his cell mates tyrone and rayvon, he will be thinking  dayum   i shoulda stayed home that day and listed to my jay z  rap songs instead of trying to skill that lil honkey white boy

If he has antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy), then there is a good chance he may not experience remorse about what he did. As such, he may not be thinking, "Damn, I should not have done that." I hope he can turn his life around, no matter the outcome. We can't predict the future; we can only hope for the best.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2016, 10:00:06 AM »
If he has antisocial personality disorder (or psychopathy), then there is a good chance he may not experience remorse about what he did. As such, he may not be thinking, "Damn, I should not have done that." I hope he can turn his life around, no matter the outcome. We can't predict the future; we can only hope for the best.

SF  his momma  tinka rae is a white whore who loves bbc, this kid probably spent most of his life watching her get plowed by spooky and his home boy cheese, and there cousin weebay   almost every day of the week, plus the poor lil bastard , probably suffered head trama when he tripped on empty

fotie  bottles  and hit his head.   he never stood a chance.

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2016, 10:04:21 AM »
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2016, 10:07:07 AM »
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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ha you got that right huge difference, unless that  12 year old had mike tyson genetics, but thats rare.  fuck my strengh level alone from when i was 12 to 16 was huge, when i was 12 i could barely curl the 8 lb dumbells

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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2016, 10:20:26 AM »
from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

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The 16 year old is a bully, plan and simple. Unless the 12 year was a giant (and I know he was on a skate board) the 16 year old looks small for his age and I'm sure that's also a part of his many issues. As a 16 year old I can't ever remember being around 12 year olds, as far social settings where I would have paid any attention to them or acknowledged them.
Dude has numerous issues.


That said the 12yo learned a painful and hopefully valuable lesson; don't talk trash unless you're ready to back it up (again I know it was a suckered punch, but as a kid I knew if I said something smart to teenagers I'd better be able to run or be ready for the consequences if I couldn't back it up). As devastating as it is for the 12yo I hope he grows from this and becomes a better, wiser and stronger person.

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Re: 16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2016, 11:33:18 AM »
Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.

so true.

anyone here with half a brain knows I led a pretty fucked up lifestyle. well I also had the opportunity to see real untreated mental illnesses out there on the street. Trust me when I say this kid is not mentally ill. He is just a fucking idiot trying to be cool and a tough guy. Someone with a real severe mental illness would not wait for the guy taking the video, let alone the brass knuckles, they just attack period. Seen it happn a few dozen times on my journey. I have seen severe schizophrenics lose their shit who were nothing to look at physically and it would take several cops to wrestle them down and get them into the cars. I have seen people get randomly attacked by strangers who were fucked in the head.

Honest to god those people scare me. That kid, if he pulled that shit on me, would get a baseball bat upside the head once I got out of the hospital. A real mental illness type, I aint touching that with a ten foot pole, here'e my wallet

Like I said this kid and mental illness= crock of shit
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