16yr old attacks 12yr old with knuckle duster on

[20inch calves]

The 16 year old is a bully, plan and simple. Unless the 12 year was a giant (and I know he was on a skate board) the 16 year old looks small for his age and I'm sure that's also a part of his many issues. As a 16 year old I can't ever remember being around 12 year olds, as far social settings where I would have paid any attention to them or acknowledged them.
Dude has numerous issues.


That said the 12yo learned a painful and hopefully valuable lesson; don't talk trash unless you're ready to back it up (again I know it was a suckered punch, but as a kid I knew if I said something smart to teenagers I'd better be able to run or be ready for the consequences if I couldn't back it up). As devastating as it is for the 12yo I hope he grows from this and becomes a better, wiser and stronger person.

The 12 year old was acting his age...IF he even said anything at all..he didn't deserve that. When I was 16 I would have laughed at a 12 year for saying that...again IF he said anything at all

[Marty Champions]

yes i totally agree with you ,  most mentally ill people do not do that,  maybe a pure psychopath , that kid is  a criminal in the making there is no

hope for him.  when your 16 u know what is  right or wong, when i was 16  never once crossed my mind to get a pair of brass knuckles and

attempt to beat a kid to death, fucking society these days.

i knew of 5 or 6 kids that had a pair of brass knuckles i can understand because they wereent big kids so they doubted there fight skills


but to go n swing on someone everyone know it will break a skull n kill someone

[Las Vegas]

Many inpatients hospitals are closing due to lack of funding. As such, many people with severe psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia (and other psychotic disorders), are being released. Unfortunately, many of them have nowhere to go because their families have pretty much abandoned them. Homelessness increases the chances of trauma and substance use, thus the vicious cycle continues. These people often have a history of trauma.

There are many factors that go into deciding whether or not someone needs long-term care. It's usually if they are consistent danger to themselves or someone else. The ones that are involuntary admitted for harm to themselves or someone else, will be admitted for 72 hours. If they are deemed to no longer be a danger to themselves or others, they are often released and referred to outpatient treatment/programs, which is usually one day per week. The issue is that many people with severe psychotic disorders will not follow up with their appointments--I mean, can we really expect someone in a psychotic state to show up for their appointment? Ummm, probably not. These people need more intensive care, but will not receive it for a variety of reasons. Community mental health centers are needed in order to address the needs of a community. However, community mental health centers are often not equipped to handle the needs of extremely psychotic people (that is what inpatient hospitals or partial day programs are for). Often, the treatment of severely psychotic people involves the collaboration of multiple different systems (psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, career counselor). Unfortunately, finding such an extensive program is tough. So, in one way or another, they wind up "falling through the cracks" of the system.

As for the 16 year old in this video, he does not appear mentally ill. The media throws around the word "mental illness" too often. If you've ever been around people who are truly mentally ill, you would know that this kid does not fit the description. And for what its worth, the research is quite clear that mentally ill people are more likely to have crimes committed against them, than to commit a crime, i.e., mentally ill people are more apt to have violence used against them, than to be violent themselves. So, to call this kid "mentally ill" is sort of a cop out from the media.

Good post.  Especially last paragraph.

[Las Vegas]

was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

E

Considering the kid had his back turned and was totally unaware, it's one and the same.

[Las Vegas]

God bless, and actually standing on a skateboard.  He had everything working against him that day, looks like.

[oldgolds]

Probably a lot of cases like this that our media hides/buries because it doesn't fit there 'World veiw'.

[illuminati]

was there a motive for punching him or was it the knockout game?

E

He Don't Need No Motive....
He A Dindu...... Enough Said

Advanced Race of Peace 

[SF1900]

Good post.  Especially last paragraph.

Address to you and Nelson:

First, in order to qualify as mentally ill at the time of the crime, the patient has to not be able to distinguish between right and wrong, fantasy vs reality. Obviously, most know this.

The defense of mentally ill is based on the "The McNaughton rule." The first famous legal test for insanity came in 1843, in the McNaughton case. Englishman Daniel McNaughton shot and killed the secretary of the British Prime Minister, believing that the Prime Minister was conspiring against him. The court acquitted McNaughton "by reason of insanity," and he was placed in a mental institution for the rest of his life. However, the case caused a public uproar, and Queen Victoria ordered the court to develop a stricter test for insanity.

There are definite cases where the McNaughton rule applies (e.g., in the case of severe paranoid schizophrenia--the patient believes people are conspiring against him or her).

Again, the media throws around the word "mental illness," but they never really define what it means. Typical media doing what it does best: providing false information.

[Dave D]

The 12 year old was acting his age...IF he even said anything at all..he didn't deserve that. When I was 16 I would have laughed at a 12 year for saying that...again IF he said anything at all

I never said the 12 year deserved that nor was it justified. I was basing my comment on the fact it was said the 12 year old said he could beat the 16yo in a mma fight, the quoted section.

You think a 16yo (with this decision making skill set nonetheless) was aware that the 12yo was acting his age...... 

When you were 16, blah, blah.... as I said I wouldn't have paid any attention either but you might not have read that far. The older kid is an obvious bully and social outcast and that's why a high school kid is hanging around 6th graders.

[oldschoolfan]

I never said the 12 year deserved that nor was it justified. I was basing my comment on the fact it was said the 12 year old said he could beat the 16yo in a mma fight, the quoted section.

You think a 16yo (with this decision making skill set nonetheless) was aware that the 12yo was acting his age...... 

When you were 16, blah, blah.... as I said I wouldn't have paid any attention either but you might not have read that far. The older kid is an obvious bully and social outcast and that's why a high school kid is hanging around 6th graders.

dave  do you think when jamal gets convicted by the all white jury and the judge sends him to angola, and he gets raped by tyrone he will regret what he did.

[Dave D]

dave  do you think when jamal gets convicted by the all white jury and the judge sends him to angola, and he gets raped by tyrone he will regret what he did.

W hen you watch the kid in the video he has the look of someone who is lost. He has no identity or self worth.

Someone said he is the classic case of a boy raised by a woman and I think that's somewhat accurate. White mother with a black father (assuming the dads not around), th kid probably suffers on identity issues on many levels.

It's hard figuring out where you fit in and how to be a man even if you have a decent father (and parents in general but I'm playing off his lack of a dad) so this kid had no chance. I'd imagine he's the only "black" kid on his mom's side of the family, and factor in if he knows his dad's family where he's probably the only "white" boy (if he knows them at all).

Idk if he will regret it. His anger is deep rooted and he's probably never had real consequences in his life. Abuse is likely all he knows.

He should have been a part of big brothers/big sisters or some other mentoring program but his mom probably didn't care until it was to late.

[Yamcha]

speaking of mental illness,  a kid I went to grade school was found dead this past week; he was living in one of those rental storage buildings. This is in East TX, and the heat index was over 110 last week.

his parents kicked him out knowing full well that he had mental issues.

very disturbing

[oldschoolfan]

W hen you watch the kid in the video he has the look of someone who is lost. He has no identity or self worth.

Someone said he is the classic case of a boy raised by a woman and I think that's somewhat accurate. White mother with a black father (assuming the dads not around), th kid probably suffers on identity issues on many levels.

It's hard figuring out where you fit in and how to be a man even if you have a decent father (and parents in general but I'm playing off his lack of a dad) so this kid had no chance. I'd imagine he's the only "black" kid on his mom's side of the family, and factor in if he knows his dad's family where he's probably the only "white" boy (if he knows them at all).

Idk if he will regret it. His anger is deep rooted and he's probably never had real consequences in his life. Abuse is likely all he knows.

He should have been a part of big brothers/big sisters or some other mentoring program but his mom probably didn't care until it was to late.

dave i am the one who quoted that,  i honestly believe that to ,  we now have a generation of men raised by women.    and there is only so much a woman can do,  and by all accounts his momma is a whore hereself. kid never had a chance.

[titusisback]

If the parents use mental illness as a defense then they need to be put to jail for allowing him to run free and the kid needs to go to mental hospital.

Trust me, presented with that option the kid would suddenly be just fine according to the parents.

[El Diablo Blanco]

What's the point of keeping this kid alive?  Sure he's a cash cow for the justice system but is that a good enough reason?

[oldschoolfan]

What's the point of keeping this kid alive?  Sure he's a cash cow for the justice system but is that a good enough reason?

EL diablo you are right there is none,  when he goes to angola and gets raped by tyrone and rayvon,  he will come out more pissed off

i bet he can barely read and write thus the chances of him landing a job are slim to none.   even wort he will probably impregnate some black

and white hoes along the way

[Las Vegas]

from what i read the 12 year old was supposedly saying he could take the 16 year old in an mma fight, which pissed off the 16 year old, but the 12 year old said he never even knew him

there is a huge difference in physical maturity when comparing 16 year olds to 12 year olds

E

I guess the older kid must have had a delayed reaction to the comment, then.

 

Or maybe even he realized how guilty he'd sound if he admitted he was testing his brass knuckles on an innocent kid.

[Kwon]

never mind, the cavalry will be along shortly

"He dindu nuffin'!"


/AD2100

[muscleman-2013]

We judge those that believe in and practiced segregation so quickly, but maybe in their minds it was justified to stop this sort of thing.  FBI stats say 35000 white women are raped by blacks each year (about 10 black women raped by whites in comparison).  You could argue that by allowing this to continue today's men are COWARDS.

[falco]

Send in to jail. Now and for a long time.

[Fortress]

We judge those that believe in and practiced segregation so quickly, but maybe in their minds it was justified to stop this sort of thing.  FBI stats say 35000 white women are raped by blacks each year (about 10 black women raped by whites in comparison).  You could argue that by allowing this to continue today's men are COWARDS.

Segregation must again happen. It's the only way.

In the case of negros, they've had their opportunity to co-habitate with Caucasians. Far from the myth of oppression, over the last few decades blacks have been given more than their share. Means to succeed.

Generally, they just cannot.

Over the decades I have gone back and forth within myself about how I feel concerning blacks.

Its become simply too obvious to argue against/ignore: Blacks are vastly less evolved in intellectual sophistication. They behave in ways that simply do not jive with advanced white societies.

[MANGOOS]

Before I open the video I knew it will be a negro. It isnt a coincidence that they always do criminal shit, its in they DNA to be stupid and violent. Stop the fucking politic corectness.