Brits dominate cycling at the Olympics

[JasonH]

You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.

[SF1900]

All countries higher than Holland got 60+ million inhabitants. Holland got 16 or 17 million.
So what country is really at the top ?

Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.

[SF1900]

Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.

The issue is that we've been fed this bullcrap line growing up "Anything is possible" or "You could do anything you put your mind to." The fact of the matter is that it's just not true. Every person has biological and environmental limitations. We are all limited in some way, shape or form. As such, even the human body has its genetic limitations and needs assistance to accomplish remarkable feats of strength, endurance, agility, etc.

[Thin Lizzy]

Bolt isn't a lifetime natty by a long way - I can't believe he hasn't been caught. The media hypes him up as the "good" athlete beating all the "evil" like Gatlin etc but its so blatantly obvious that Bolt's at it too. Yes, there's no doubt he has a lot of natural talent, but no-one is running 9.58 secs without some form of assistance.

The vast majority of 100m finalists going back to the 1980s have all failed drug tests at some point in their careers. Bolt must be taking that extra bit of precaution.

Or the Olympic Authorities are more lenient with their superstars. They know who puts the asses in the stadium seats and the eyeballs on the screen. It ain't the Ping Pong players.

[Simple Simon]

Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.

deeper pool of people more chances to have a top athlete.

Its basic maths.

[dj181]

You think Gatlin is a lifetime natty?

how about that white French dude?

the only white man to run the 100 in under 10

vive la France 

[Dr Dutch]

Blah, blah, blah.

Brazil has 200 million people.

France has 60 million people.

Total Medal Count:

France: 30
Brazil: 11

You either have the best athletes or you don't, regardless of population count.

Crapp. Jamaica invests the most in young talented sprint runners.
Russia invested in doping, that's why they and east Germany won so many medals in the 70s and 80s.
It's not about the best athletes, it's about politics.

[SF1900]

deeper pool of people more chances to have a top athlete.

Its basic maths.

And, yet, France has 140 million less people and has more medals than Brazil. 

[Simple Simon]

how about that white French dude?

the only white man to run the 100 in under 10

vive la France 

he thought black men were chasing him.

[Dr Dutch]

Your posts are utter drivel. Please delete your account.

Honestly, Bob...do some cardio instead of posting here.

[Dr Dutch]

Crapp. Jamaica invests the most in young talented sprint runners.
Russia invested in doping, that's why they and east Germany won so many medals in the 70s and 80s.
It's not about the best athletes, it's about politics.

Plus Jamaica is only 20th overall right now....

[Thin Lizzy]

It also comes down the popularity of the sport in the country.

There's are probably some guys in the NFL who could've given Bolt a run, but football offers a better shot at big money.

[local hero]

It also comes down the popularity of the sport in the country.

There's are probably some guys in the NFL who could've given Bolt a run, but football offers a better shot at big money.

I was waiting for this one.... This is why you have no top heavy weight boxers etc etc etc


I'm truly amazed at how well we have done, we have a good shout in almost every sport !.... Russia being absent is partly to blame tho.

[phreak]

I was waiting for this one.... This is why you have no top heavy weight boxers etc etc etc


I'm truly amazed at how well we have done, we have a good shout in almost every sport !.... Russia being absent is partly to blame tho.

Took a while for someone to say this. With Russia competing the US would be second in the medal standings. Distant second. So... respect to USADA for having a more secretive doping program.

[SF1900]

Took a while for someone to say this. With Russia competing the US would be second in the medal standings. Distant second. So... respect to USADA for having a more secretive doping program.

Russia is competing. They have 41 medals.

And in 2012, USA had 103 medals and Russia had 78.

And in 2008, USA had 110 medals and Russia had 72.

And in 2004, USA had 101 medals and Russia had 91.

Am I doing the math wrong or is 103, 110, and 101, more than 78, 72, and 91?

 

[phreak]

Russia is competing. They have 41 medals.

And in 2012, USA had 103 medals and Russia had 78.

And in 2008, USA had 110 medals and Russia had 72.

And in 2004, USA had 101 medals and Russia had 91.

Am I doing the math wrong or is 103, 110, and 101, more than 78, 72, and 91?

 

And how many dozens/hundreds of russians were not allowed to compete?

[SuperTed]

Wealthier nations tend to perform better in the Olympics since they have better funding.

It also is down to culture. Some nations put more emphasis on Olympic success than others. Less wealthier nations will only perform very well in just a few events due to those events being popular in those places.

[hardman]

US used to dominate T&F. And let's not forget all the foreign athletes that train in the US, but rep their countries.Ain't nobody gonna mention Gatlin's tricep? What's his routine for arms?

you always get one. you think what he does will push your arms into sudden growth? GEEZ!

[doggler]

 Jesus christ. Be happy winning in fucking cycling.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

The issue is that we've been fed this bullcrap line growing up "Anything is possible" or "You could do anything you put your mind to." The fact of the matter is that it's just not true. Every person has biological and environmental limitations. We are all limited in some way, shape or form. As such, even the human body has its genetic limitations and needs assistance to accomplish remarkable feats of strength, endurance, agility, etc.

Put it this way to people.

Ben Johnson's fastest time clean was around 10.5 sec. At the 1984 Olympics after juicing 3 years he ran 10.22 to take Bronze. 4 years later to win he ran 9.79. That's juicing for 7 years.

So people who believe Bolt is natural think he is running 9.58 natural when Johnson was running 10.5? So what's Bolt supposed to run juiced then fucking 8.9?

We all know about natural limits. Lifting weights, in reality if you do everything right after 3 years you aren't gaining much in that 4th year if anything and from then on that's it. There's no magic protein, no magic supplement you either juice or that's it. These guys with running it's a little different because they've been running since they were kids so growing up they are going to improve as they grow where as lifting weights we all usually start at least around 16 so during or past maturity. But they are going to hit limits around 19 years old and everyone is fed they can keep improving and improving if they just keep working hard. Also because they are genetically gifted and winning everything as kids the common line is 'He was winning everything as a kid he's not juicing it's genetic talent' which is true but only to a point.

Bolt is smart he's coming off juicing a few weeks out from games because it's not needed (actually hurts staying on according to Charlie Francis, Johnson's coach) and Jamaica is helping him avoid tests when he needs to juice. You can see he's clean a LOT offseason. Maybe he has been caught out with an internal test and they helped him out. Who knows.

[SF1900]

And how many dozens/hundreds of russians were not allowed to compete?

I don't know, but were dozens/hundreds also disqualified in 2012, 2008, and 2004? From what I gather, it was just this year.  Clearly, the evidence shows that we have acquired more medals than Russia over the last 3 Olympics.

Also..........

In 2000:

USA: 93
Russia: 89

In 1996:

USA: 101
Russia: 63

Were dozens/hundreds disqualified from these olympics too?