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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2016, 08:11:58 AM »
Not sure u understand. 

He fundraises for them, and they build that gotv effort in 50 states

I do understand. Why should he fundraise money for the assholes who won't even endorse/support him?
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2016, 08:52:04 AM »
I do understand. Why should he fundraise money for the assholes who won't even endorse/support him?

because they are hiring people and setting up offices and building an infrastructure for 'get out the vote' effort for Nov 8th. 

Trump didn't bother to do that, oddly.   He's behind romney 2012 in terms of fundraising for himself as well
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/donald-trumps-fundraising-lags-behind-romneys-documents-show/

The candidate traditionally works to help others in the party get elected, and fundraises for them - and they do the same, using their network of people and offices to help him.   Trump isn't working with the RNC, and has said some mean things about them in the past.

It's just not what a person does if they want to win.  It's odd.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2016, 09:22:57 AM »
I'm an anti-Hilliary independent.  I hope Trump wins.  And then quits. 

"I just wanted to beat that entitled little prick is all. Mission accomplished."   

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2016, 09:29:55 AM »
because they are hiring people and setting up offices and building an infrastructure for 'get out the vote' effort for Nov 8th. 

Trump didn't bother to do that, oddly.   He's behind romney 2012 in terms of fundraising for himself as well
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/donald-trumps-fundraising-lags-behind-romneys-documents-show/

The candidate traditionally works to help others in the party get elected, and fundraises for them - and they do the same, using their network of people and offices to help him.   Trump isn't working with the RNC, and has said some mean things about them in the past.

It's just not what a person does if they want to win.  It's odd.

Why even compare his campaign/fundraising efforts to McCain and Romney?

How'd there fundraising help them? It helped them get republicans down the ticket re-elected...  What has a Republican Senate/House done? Nothing. The establishment IS the problem. I couldn't care less if the Republican party crashes and burns. Something new will take its place, with the GOP name or not.
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2016, 09:39:09 AM »
Why even compare his campaign/fundraising efforts to McCain and Romney?

How'd there fundraising help them? It helped them get republicans down the ticket re-elected...  What has a Republican Senate/House done? Nothing. The establishment IS the problem. I couldn't care less if the Republican party crashes and burns. Something new will take its place, with the GOP name or not.

Their fundraising was less than Obama's.   In 94% of races, the candidate with the most money wins.  Cool thread on getbig on it a while back.

Trump's not even close in the money side.  This means his GOTV effort on election day, if it exists at all, will be very small.  hilary will be busing in people form nursing homes and digging up Chicago graveyards to vote.  Trump will just hope for the best.

JFK only won because his dad cheated better.  Everyone cheats with the GOTV effort.  Watch "BOSS" on NetFlix... awesome political show with Kelsey Grammar that really shows the shady side of the GOTV effort.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2016, 11:58:17 AM »
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2016, 12:35:52 PM »
obama took a pretty bad beating for his mom jeans.   I hope those people are just as loud about their president wearing bobbypins.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #82 on: September 01, 2016, 01:39:48 PM »
Their fundraising was less than Obama's.   In 94% of races, the candidate with the most money wins.  Cool thread on getbig on it a while back.

Trump's not even close in the money side.  This means his GOTV effort on election day, if it exists at all, will be very small.  hilary will be busing in people form nursing homes and digging up Chicago graveyards to vote.  Trump will just hope for the best.

JFK only won because his dad cheated better.  Everyone cheats with the GOTV effort.  Watch "BOSS" on NetFlix... awesome political show with Kelsey Grammar that really shows the shady side of the GOTV effort.
Money and Fundraising (more than anyone else) did nothing for Jeb Bush it seems.  :-\

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #83 on: September 01, 2016, 02:02:53 PM »
Money and Fundraising (more than anyone else) did nothing for Jeb Bush it seems.  :-\

that was the primary.   there was no stopping trump.  the low-education nascar fans anointed trump the winner early on. 

There aren't any swing voters in the primaries.  the extreme decides.

Trump has to win the middle 6% that decide every election.  TV time during "Big Brother" or "Dancing with the stars" showing Trump dropping F bombs and imitating the handicapped are very effective. 

In the polls trump's doing well, he's still at 41 or 42%.  Hilary's bouncing between 48 and 38 in polls.  Trump's pretty solid.  I don't see anything he can do, any moves, to magically win 49 or 50% of the population.  The 7% of the nation that thinks he's an idiot aren't going to change.   They would rather have the nation in the hands of a highly capable criminal (hilary) than a wide-eyed obnoxious dude who might make us great, or might start WW3.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2016, 02:42:33 PM »
Clinton smashes fundraising record, bringing in $143M in August

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/politics/clinton-campaign-smashes-fundraising-record/index.html

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Yes the polls have tightened, erasing the post convention bounce. But last night's speech will motivate minorities and get Stein and Johnson supporters to realize how dangerous not voting for Clinton could be.  And then come the debates. Does anyone think Trump can win over voters in a debate standing next to Clinton?  He seems to only have two modes: wimpy reserved Trump as he was yesterday standing next to the president of Mexico, or out of control demagogue as he was last night in Phoenix.  Neither version will do well with the swing voters who will decide the general election.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2016, 05:32:07 PM »
Clinton smashes fundraising record, bringing in $143M in August

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/politics/clinton-campaign-smashes-fundraising-record/index.html

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Yes the polls have tightened, erasing the post convention bounce. But last night's speech will motivate minorities and get Stein and Johnson supporters to realize how dangerous not voting for Clinton could be.  And then come the debates. Does anyone think Trump can win over voters in a debate standing next to Clinton?  He seems to only have two modes: wimpy reserved Trump as he was yesterday standing next to the president of Mexico, or out of control demagogue as he was last night in Phoenix.  Neither version will do well with the swing voters who will decide the general election.

I read on getbig that fundraising doesn't matter.

SO there's that.   What did trump raise?  I know he exaggerated last months by 10 million, right?  Bragged about 90 when it was really 80 when he filed?