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Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« on: August 29, 2016, 02:12:05 PM »
“Trump’s aides put together briefing books-not that candidate is devoting much time to reading them"


“Trump’s aides have put together briefing books, not that the candidate is devoting much time to reading them. Trump is not holding any mock debates, proudly boasting that a performer with his talents does not need that sort of prepping. Should Trump submit to traditional rehearsals, some associates are talking about casting Ingraham, an adversarial chronicler of Clinton scandals, to play the Democratic nominee.”


https://politicalwire.com/2016/08/27/two-different-approaches-to-debate-prep/



Trump's debate prep includes gatherings at N.J. golf club

TRENTON — How is Donald Trump preparing for his upcoming debate with Hillary Clinton?

Over soft drinks and burgers with some of his closest advisers at one of the private golf clubs he owns in New Jersey, according to a report by the Washington Post.

Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, and Clinton, his Democratic challenger, are apparently taking strikingly different approaches to prepping for the Sept. 26 debate — the first of three scheduled before the general election Nov 8.

Clinton, the former U.S. secretary of state, is going through thick books of policy and opposition research while working with debate coaches, the Post reported.

Trump, the celebrity businessman and former Atlantic City casino mogul, is more informal. He has no debate team, according to the newspaper.

Instead, he held a debate prep meeting two Sundays ago with confidants, family members, and friends at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, according to the newspapers.

Attendees included Trump's new campaign manager, Kelly Conway; his new campaign CEO, Stephen Bannon; New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani; talk show host Laura Ingraham; former Fox New Chairman Roger Ailes; and daughter Ivanka Trump and husband, Jared Kushner, the real estate developer and member of a famed New Jersey political family, the report said, citing sources.

They dined on bacon cheeseburgers, hot dogs and glasses of Coca-Cola, while trying out zingers and discussing Trump's message, according to the report.

A second meeting at the club was scheduled for Sunday, the newspaper said.


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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 02:19:24 PM »
Hillary has been up to some really bad things, so a highschool kid should be able to get up there and destroy her.

But the first debate is only a little more than three weeks away, and I can't wait.  Trump had better be there.

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 02:24:51 PM »
Hillary has been up to some really bad things, so a highschool kid should be able to get up there and destroy her.

But the first debate is only a little more than three weeks away, and I can't wait.  Trump had better be there.

i'm excited about them.   But I do fear trump is looking for any reason to back out of them.  Some last minute "I take such great offence to hilary, on the part of all african-americans, that i am boycotting the debate" or some nonsense about tv times and moderators.

his base will back him no matter what.  "Yeah, you totally showed those biased moderators who was boss!"


Hilary was better than obama in the debates, leading him right into stepping in shit on meeting with world leaders.   obama dreaded the 1-on-1s at the end.  any debate will just be trump giving vague promises of greatness, and attacking hilary.

Hilary sat for 11 hours of benghazi attacks, and knows trump won his party by being a dick, and letting them sink to his level.  If she can look tough but not get rattled, she will win easily.

OH - and trump supporters will say he won every debate, no matter how they go.  And the debates will change nothing - same margin of victory as we see today in polls, 5-7 points. 

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 02:28:40 PM »
i'm excited about them.   But I do fear trump is looking for any reason to back out of them.  Some last minute "I take such great offence to hilary, on the part of all african-americans, that i am boycotting the debate" or some nonsense about tv times and moderators.

his base will back him no matter what.  "Yeah, you totally showed those biased moderators who was boss!"


Hilary was better than obama in the debates, leading him right into stepping in shit on meeting with world leaders.   obama dreaded the 1-on-1s at the end.  any debate will just be trump giving vague promises of greatness, and attacking hilary.

Hilary sat for 11 hours of benghazi attacks, and knows trump won his party by being a dick, and letting them sink to his level.  If she can look tough but not get rattled, she will win easily.

OH - and trump supporters will say he won every debate, no matter how they go.  And the debates will change nothing - same margin of victory as we see today in polls, 5-7 points. 

If he finds any "reason" but his own unfortunate passing to miss that debate, then he's doing absolutely nothing but setting himself up to be Public Enemy Number One.

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 09:07:07 AM »
because all he has to do repeat his talking points and name-calling.
his fans will eat it up!
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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 10:07:53 AM »
But where is Hillary? No one has seen her lately. Did she have a "health" relapse? Or did she go on a booze and drugs bender, with her lesbo "friends," to chill out for the debate?

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 10:40:58 AM »
But where is Hillary? No one has seen her lately. Did she have a "health" relapse? Or did she go on a booze and drugs bender, with her lesbo "friends," to chill out for the debate?

She has a debate team and they're prepping several hours per day.  Role play and study and extreme depth of issues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate.html?_r=0

I wonder if trump just plans to 'wing it' as president too?  At what point does this motherfcker get serious about the job?

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 11:47:00 AM »
Something else about this, is that everything -- from the stacked audience, to the questions, to the pos moderators -- will be working against Trump.  People have been carefully planning this since Trump became the main man.  (Conspiring is the only true description for it, really, since it is opposite of what's right and what we deserve to expect in a system that's supposed to be fair.)

Yeah, Trump is a pita and he needs to do a better job showing people his heart is in it.  But no one can deny the crooks are actively working against him, and will continue to work against him, and that we will see it more than ever in these "debates".

We all know it's true.

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 12:25:05 PM »
Hillary has a JD Degree from Yale and she was the first woman partner at Rose Law Firm. She also served as a congressional legal counsel among other assignments. Lawyers are well trained in the art of debate. Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse.

Trump has closed many high-end contracts, which require some debate skills in order to be successful. I'm not sure that his debate abilities are on par with Hillary's. He's exhibited throughout his campaign that he has very limited self-control and composure. Ultimately, this may hurt him in the debate process.

It will be interesting to see what format these three debates take. Often, there is little opportunity for digression or diversion in the debate process. Trump has relied on these tactics throughout his campaign.

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 12:28:29 PM »
Hillary has a JD Degree from Yale and she was the first woman partner at Rose Law Firm. She also served as a congressional legal counsel among other assignments. Lawyers are well trained in the art of debate. Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse.

Trump has closed many high-end contracts, which require some debate skills in order to be successful. I'm not sure that his debate abilities are on par with Hillary's. He's exhibited throughout his campaign that he has very limited self-control and composure. Ultimately, this may hurt him in the debate process.

It will be interesting to see what format these three debates take. Often, there is little opportunity for digression or diversion in the debate process. Trump has relied on these tactics throughout his campaign.


Hillary failed the bar, was tossed off the Watergate committee for unethical behavior, and did nothing good as a lawyer but get involved in whitewater and other shady shit - remember the billing records fiasco? 

Way to suck her vag bro - that fish must be quite gamy tasting

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 12:43:38 PM »
Hillary has a JD Degree from Yale and she was the first woman partner at Rose Law Firm. She also served as a congressional legal counsel among other assignments. Lawyers are well trained in the art of debate. Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse.

Trump has closed many high-end contracts, which require some debate skills in order to be successful. I'm not sure that his debate abilities are on par with Hillary's. He's exhibited throughout his campaign that he has very limited self-control and composure. Ultimately, this may hurt him in the debate process.

It will be interesting to see what format these three debates take. Often, there is little opportunity for digression or diversion in the debate process. Trump has relied on these tactics throughout his campaign.

Where did she work after Bill Clinton was elected in 1992? 

And she's not a good debater IMO.  Liars struggle in those forums.  She's not a good debater simply because she says something with conviction. 

Same with Trump.  He sucks.  I think their debates are going to be a train wreck, with each side pounding their chests and proclaiming victory no matter how they perform. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2016, 12:49:11 PM »

Hillary failed the bar, was tossed off the Watergate committee for unethical behavior, and did nothing good as a lawyer but get involved in whitewater and other shady shit - remember the billing records fiasco? 

Way to suck her vag bro - that fish must be quite gamy tasting

I could debate Hillary having failed the bar exam since she passed the Arkansas bar. She failed the D.C. bar exam. So, we both are correct.

Regardless of what Jerry Zeifman may have thought of Hillary and her work during the (watergate) investigation, he was not her supervisor, neither he nor anyone else fired her from her position on the Impeachment Inquiry staff (Zeifman in fact didn't have the power to fire her, even had he wanted to do so).

Your last sentence is trolling. It does not warrant a response.  ::)

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2016, 12:53:31 PM »
Where did she work after Bill Clinton was elected in 1992?  

And she's not a good debater IMO.  Liars struggle in those forums.  She's not a good debater simply because she says something with conviction.  

Same with Trump.  He sucks.  I think their debates are going to be a train wreck, with each side pounding their chests and proclaiming victory no matter how they perform.  

After Bill Clinton was elected President, her primary responsibility was that of a First Lady. Do you know of any First Ladies working aside from volunteer work? When she was a Senator and as Secretary of State, she worked in the sense that those are paid positions.

It's to your credit that admit your post is only your opinion. The media and the public will determine who was victorious. Any chest pounding won't count for much.  ;)

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2016, 12:57:52 PM »
It's to your credit that admit your post is only your opinion. The media and the public will determine who was victorious. Any chest pounding won't count for much.  ;)

The media and public always determine who wins and loses. 

You said "Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse."  Where did she practice after her husband was elected president in 1992?   


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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2016, 01:10:47 PM »
The media and public always determine who wins and loses. 

You said "Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse."  Where did she practice after her husband was elected president in 1992?   



You mean where did she work in the legal field after 2001 when President Clinton's term was completed? I have no idea if she worked between 2001 and 2002. Why is this important?

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2016, 01:12:18 PM »
I could debate Hillary having failed the bar exam since she passed the Arkansas bar. She failed the D.C. bar exam. So, we both are correct.

Regardless of what Jerry Zeifman may have thought of Hillary and her work during the (watergate) investigation, he was not her supervisor, neither he nor anyone else fired her from her position on the Impeachment Inquiry staff (Zeifman in fact didn't have the power to fire her, even had he wanted to do so).

Your last sentence is trolling. It does not warrant a response.  ::)

Yeah believe whatever that snopes tells you  - uh huh.  Zeifman had no reason to lie at all about Hillarys' misconduct. And how did the rose law firm billing records end up in the WH all those years later?  Yeah - just a miracle.   ::)  ::)

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 01:13:16 PM »
You mean where did she work in the legal field after 2001 when President Clinton's term was completed? I have no idea if she worked between 2001 and 2002. Why is this important?

She was the do-nothing senator from NYS from 2000 remember?   She carpetbagged her way into office here and didnt do a damn thing she promised to do.

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 01:19:26 PM »
You mean where did she work in the legal field after 2001 when President Clinton's term was completed? I have no idea if she worked between 2001 and 2002. Why is this important?

Because you gave the impression she was still working until 2002. 

And you're asking why the accuracy of your comments is important?? 

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 01:32:44 PM »
I haven't seen anything to say Hillary is good at debate (and these things aren't true debate, either, of course).  And individuals get big-buck positions in law firms all the time due to nothing but their connections and political pull.  I think Rubio may be another example of that.

And when someone has a record which includes support for things like NAFTA and TPP, it makes it very difficult for that person to throw a punch at someone else without taking an even-harder counterpunch every time.  

In other words, she destroyed any strong ground she's ever had, if she's ever had any to begin with.

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2016, 01:36:40 PM »
Because you gave the impression she was still working until 2002. 

And you're asking why the accuracy of your comments is important?? 

"Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse." Sorry, I see where you might draw the conclusion that she was a working lawyer until she let her license lapse.

Hillary is not a personal friend. I haven't followed her working career that closely. If she actually was employed while she was First Lady, I am not aware of it. It's unlikely though. I'm not sure it is required that one practice law in order to retain their license. They have to continue their education.

You might as Soulcrusher about this. I believe he's said he works in law.
 

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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 01:44:23 PM »
"Hillary has not formally practiced law since 2002 when she let her licence lapse." Sorry, I see where you might draw the conclusion that she was a working lawyer until she let her license lapse.

Hillary is not a personal friend. I haven't followed her working career that closely. If she actually was employed while she was First Lady, I am not aware of it. It's unlikely though. I'm not sure it is required that one practice law in order to retain their license. They have to continue their education.

You might as Soulcrusher about this. I believe he's said he works in law.
 

No worries.  Thanks for clarifying. 

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 01:47:11 PM »
Maybe they had to keep her ass from "working" while Mr. Fake-O was in the WH, because "working" means "scamming" to the Clintons, meaning a constant threat of fallout.

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 01:48:21 PM »
I haven't seen anything to say Hillary is good at debate (and these things aren't true debate, either, of course).  And individuals get big-buck positions in law firms all the time due to nothing but their connections and political pull.  I think Rubio may be another example of that.

And when someone has a record which includes support for things like NAFTA and TPP, it makes it very difficult for that person to throw a punch at someone else without taking an even-harder counterpunch every time.  

In other words, she destroyed any strong ground she's ever had, if she's ever had any to begin with.

The pundits are on both sides of the fence with regards to Hillary's proficiency at debate. Bernie Sanders had/has a lot of supporters. Unfortunately for him, Hillary beat him at debate.

Trial lawyers win cases based on their ability to convince a judge and Jury of someone's guilt or innocence. This seems like debate to me. "Shooting from the hip" is not a debate winning tactic.

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 01:56:37 PM »
Maybe they had to keep her ass from "working" while Mr. Fake-O was in the WH, because "working" means "scamming" to the Clintons, meaning a constant threat of fallout.

You do like state your opinions. Honestly, you cannot know what working means to the Clinton's unless they tell you.

Except that she did work during Obama's term. She was paid close to $200,000 as Secretary of State. The Secretary of State is appointed by the President of the United States and is confirmed by the United States Senate.

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Re: Trump isn't preparing for the debates - WHY?
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 02:01:16 PM »
The pundits are on both sides of the fence with regards to Hillary's proficiency at debate. Bernie Sanders had/has a lot of supporters. Unfortunately for him, Hillary beat him at debate.

I wouldn't say that, at all.  But then again I don't automatically take the word of the "experts" on TV who have an interest in Hillary's success.

No, Bernie held his own.  He could have (and should have) went on a much stronger attack, but he didn't.  Maybe if he'd had the goods with the DNC emails, earlier, he'd have taken a different approach.

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Trial lawyers win cases based on their ability to convince a judge and Jury of someone's guilt or innocence. This seem like debate to me. "Shooting from the hip" is not a debate winning tactic.

That's great, but she's the one in desperate need of defense.