Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)

[Man of Steel]

Really? I find him to be glib, whining, and self centered. When confronted with the people brutally treated, he says he's with Christ now, and that precludes him from having to mend fences. The Gospels, however, say otherwise.

As I noted yesterday:

Unfortunately the board is too anonymous for that, but those that have been here I have and those folks not online in my life I've also spoken to.

Just to give you a heads up.   I've done this particular dance dozens of times.  I'm completely comfortable in these discussions because they bring glory to God.  

As if I've stated already the truth is a wonderful place to exist.

It's simply impossible for me to either remember all of my wrongdoings or find each individual wronged and make amends.

And because I can't doesn't negate a thing about the man Christ has made me today.   Simply put, if I both recall all my wrongdoings and had the ability to make amends I'd have no issue with doing so.

You're simply reaching for anything to discredit me and prove I'm a phony, hypocritical Christian.  That's what most do today anyhow...they nitpick posts, generate angles, make stuff up....whatever to make their argument stick.   I don't prefer it, but it's par for the course for me.

I'm guessing you're a young guy....college age/mid 20s perhaps.  Reason being is most folks that age that object to the God/religion/Christians/etc. often take this approach. 

[Man of Steel]

Not sure what patience is required when a response is a simple, "ok".

When you exist in my shoes and tolerate the characters I do you live in world of double edge swords....too little written isn't sufficient and too much written isn't read (the infamous "wall of text"....td;dr).   I try and strike a healthy middle now and I have a ton of my written material to draw from.

These types of situations are like practice for me, but sometimes I need a break from the practice as well as the real deal.

[OB1]

Really? I find him to be glib, whining, and self centered. When confronted with the people brutally treated, he says he's with Christ now, and that precludes him from having to mend fences. The Gospels, however, say otherwise.

What's the problem?
He just lives in a fantasy world of his own.
Let him be.

[TuHolmes]

When you exist in my shoes and tolerate the characters I do you live in world of double edge swords....too little written isn't sufficient and too much written isn't read (the infamous "wall of text"....td;dr).   I try and strike a healthy middle now and I have a ton of my written material to draw from.

My premise was that I read what you stated and while I may disagree as to whether it is proof or not, I don't feel we need to continue the line of questioning.

You have your faith, I do not belittle or demean you for it.

[cephissus]

Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.

Really, how much have you looked into the matter?  Buddhism, Hinduisim, etc. must have taken ages to give them all the same consideration you ask for Christianity.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Both are fine upstanding getbigges

Altojgh both is alittle nuts with the jesus and flat earth stuff

[OB1]

Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.

Bullshit.
The Hopi for example have fulfilled and future prophecies exceeding the christian ones by a huge margin.
The Quran also contains a lot of fulfilled prophecies.
The list goes on...

Get your facts straight.

[Kwon]

Both are fine upstanding getbigges

Altojgh both is alittle nuts with the jesus and flat earth stuff

Man of Wiggs doesn't believe in Flat Earth though, he is more into a Fluffy Earth.

It's Wiggs of Steel that is into Flat Hebrews and stuff.

[OB1]

Man of Wiggs doesn't believe in Flat Earth though, he is more into a Fluffy Earth.

It's Wiggs of Steel that is into Flat Hebrews and stuff.

LOL!

[Man of Steel]

Bullshit.
The Hopi for example have fulfilled and future prophecies exceeding the christian ones by a huge margin.
The Quran also contains a lot of fulfilled prophecies.
The list goes on...

Get your facts straight.

I'd be interested in seeing any Hopi indian or Islamic prophecy that has been fulfilled.

[Tapeworm]

I'm gonna need to see both competitors peeled before rendering a verdict.

[Man of Steel]

Really, how much have you looked into the matter?  Buddhism, Hinduisim, etc. must have taken ages to give them all the same consideration you ask for Christianity.

I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.

[OB1]

I'd be interested in seeing any Hopi indian or Islamic prophecy that has been fulfilled.

Google will help you out.
Here's the link -> https://www.google.com

[RatedXXX]

As I noted yesterday:

It's simply impossible for me to either remember all of my wrongdoings or find each individual wronged and make amends.

And because I can't doesn't negate a thing about the man Christ has made me today.   Simply put, if I both recall all my wrongdoings and had the ability to make amends I'd have no issue with doing so.

You're simply reaching for anything to discredit me and prove I'm a phony, hypocritical Christian.  That's what most do today anyhow...they nitpick posts, generate angles, make stuff up....whatever to make their argument stick.   I don't prefer it, but it's par for the course for me.

I'm guessing you're a young guy....college age/mid 20s perhaps.  Reason being is most folks that age that object to the God/religion/Christians/etc. often take this approach. 

If you've got time to play games on muscle forums then you've got time to make up for your wrongdoings.
In terms of my age and profile you're way off. I was already a a church going Christian decades before you opened a Bible. And you don't strike me as sincere.

[cephissus]

I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.

But when others dismiss Christianity, possibly in large part because of "the scholarship of genuine experts" who do the same (and there are many, as you know), you say they need to practice the religion first ("have a personal relationship with Christ").  Seems like you're doing the same thing?

[Simple Simon]

I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.

Exhaustive?
thats an odd word to choose for something that you base your whole life philosophy around
I would have thought the word "enjoyable" would have been better suited

[Man of Steel]

Exhaustive?
thats an odd word to choose for something that you base your whole life philosophy around
I would have thought the word "enjoyable" would have been better suited

Exhaustive in this context refers to completeness of the research.

[Man of Steel]

But when others dismiss Christianity, possibly in large part because of "the scholarship of genuine experts" who do the same (and there are many, as you know), you say they need to practice the religion first ("have a personal relationship with Christ").  Seems like you're doing the same thing?

It's real simple.  If you desire to know Christ you abide by scripture and God's terms therein.  Knowing God personally means having a relationship and that requires faith.  It's ultimate form of proactively following all the evidence to it's logical end.

[OB1]

It's real simple.  If you desire to know Christ you abide by scripture and God's terms therein.  Knowing God personally means having a relationship and that requires faith.  It's ultimate form of proactively following all the evidence to it's logical end.

Christianity defies all logic though.

[Man of Steel]

If you've got time to play games on muscle forums then you've got time to make up for your wrongdoings.
In terms of my age and profile you're way off. I was already a a church going Christian decades before you opened a Bible. And you don't strike me as sincere.

That's interesting.  Given how juvenile your tactics are I assumed a kiddo begin an account named RatedXXX.

[RatedXXX]

That's interesting.  Given how juvenile your tactics are I assumed a kiddo begin an account named RatedXXX.

Read over some of your texts. Like where you call somebody's daughter a "whore". You fail to impress.

[Simple Simon]

Exhaustive in this context refers to completeness of the research.

so someone finds it exhausting then, is that a believer or a none believer?

[Man of Steel]

Read over some of your texts. Like where you call somebody's daughter a "whore". You fail to impress.

Not a Christian then...explained that already.

My post history is completely open and available to be dug through....it's that way with definite purpose.

[Man of Steel]

so someone finds it exhausting then, is that a believer or a none believer?

You're not understanding...it relates to thoroughness in research efforts not a state of fatigue or lack of enjoyment.

[Simple Simon]

You're not understanding...it relates to thoroughness in research efforts not a state of fatigue or lack of enjoyment.

ya think....