HGH is hell of a drug !!!

[WannaBePro]

So this is why they have huge guts.

Except Juan doesn't have a gut. Between the money he spends on food and, supposed crazy HGH dosing, how the hell does he have money for anything else? Only quality GH and T3 could allow him to eat like he does unless his body just processes the food like no one else.

[lilhawk1]

These guys are using upwards of 30 iu of GH per day plus T3/T4.  I can tell you from my own experience just using 6-8 iu per day plus T3/T4 that I can eat whatever I want all day, everyday and not get fat.  I contest diet once a year, but other than that I eat anything I want.  The combo is amazing.  Can't imagine what 5x the amount of GH would do.

[WannaBePro]

These guys are using upwards of 30 iu of GH per day plus T3/T4.  I can tell you from my own experience just using 6-8 iu per day plus T3/T4 that I can eat whatever I want all day, everyday and not get fat.  I contest diet once a year, but other than that I eat anything I want.  The combo is amazing.  Can't imagine what 5x the amount of GH would do.

How do they afford that much GH along with everything else? No way sponsorships are paying enough to cover all the drugs, food, rent/mortgage, car, every day expenses. Unless I'm wrong, and sponsorships are way more lucrative than I thought.

[Bevo]

How do they afford that much GH along with everything else? No way sponsorships are paying enough to cover all the drugs, food, rent/mortgage, car, every day expenses. Unless I'm wrong, and sponsorships are way more lucrative than I thought.

I doubt sponsorships cover anything but free tubs of fart powders unless it's top guys like Phil, Kai, Dexter, etc

Juan is not a top pro, doubt he isn't making much money unless he's a drug dealer, G4p or both

[WannaBePro]

I doubt sponsorships cover anything but free tubs of fart powders unless it's top guys like Phil, Kai, Dexter, etc

Juan is not a top pro, doubt he isn't making much money unless he's a drug dealer, G4p or both

He'd have to move a lot of drugs and do enough G4P to prolapse his anus before 40. The drugs thing is way too risky and the G4P would get out very quickly and would be all over the place like Osladil's and Kai's. I just can't imagine he's taking THAT much GH to be able to eat all that with no consequences. Even Phil, who probably COULD afford all the GH and other drugs required to eat that much, still doesn't go overboard with the food like Juan. I do believe Juan IS on gh and decent gear. But I also think he does have an insane metabolism. If you ever listen to Palumbo talk about how he used to prep him, he said Juan would flatten out within an hour of eating, so they'd have to carb him up for like 4 days straight using McDonalds and shit. A regular bodybuilder on all the same drugs doesn't carb up on McDonalds for almost a week straight.

[TheOne]

Haha, I use 10iu's of Serostim ed along with 50mcg of T3 and 100mcg of T4,  I can eat whatever I want whenever I want and still lose fat, however, I never go over 2500-3000 cals a day but even if I do I still wake up leaner the next day.  I can't even imagine taking 30-40iu's a day!

[Bevo]

Haha, I use 10iu's of Serostim ed along with 50mcg of T3 and 100mcg of T4,  I can eat whatever I want whenever I want and still lose fat, however, I never go over 2500-3000 cals a day but even if I do I still wake up leaner the next day.  I can't even imagine taking 30-40iu's a day!

I don't know who uses 30-40 IU's but it's not common at all, this is absurd and mostly exaggerated much, even Ronnie would be in the 20's


We all know pros and top amat uses lots of drugs that's a given, but some of the numbers people spew out is outrageous like 15 grams of wk shit

[Kwon]

Cyborg and Gabi GHarcia

Pretty ladies right there

[lilhawk1]

I don't know who uses 30-40 IU's but it's not common at all, this is absurd and mostly exaggerated much, even Ronnie would be in the 20's


We all know pros and top amat uses lots of drugs that's a given, but some of the numbers people spew out is outrageous like 15 grams of wk shit

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.  This dose is common on the national level.  I know for a fact Dorian was using 40 iu per day of GH, and that was in the 1990s.  Ronnie was well over that, fact.  The standard dose of just test for these guys is 5-7 grams per week.  That's just test.  I know many national level guys that are using these doses.  Pros are pros for a reason..  Drugs and a ton of them.  Believe what you want, but you're wrong.

[lilhawk1]

How do they afford that much GH along with everything else? No way sponsorships are paying enough to cover all the drugs, food, rent/mortgage, car, every day expenses. Unless I'm wrong, and sponsorships are way more lucrative than I thought.

They sell shit.  Gay for pay, etc.

[Simple Simon]

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.  This dose is common on the national level.  I know for a fact Dorian was using 40 iu per day of GH, and that was in the 1990s.  Ronnie was well over that, fact.  The standard dose of just test for these guys is 5-7 grams per week.  That's just test.  I know many national level guys that are using these doses.  Pros are pros for a reason..  Drugs and a ton of them.  Believe what you want, but you're wrong.

so at 200mgs per mil that is 35 ml of oil, where the fuck to they put all that oil?

[disco_stu]

so is anyone going to do the math?

i.e. list the so called regimes, approx costs, and do the sums.

$ per week in drugs, plus $ per week in food. total it. turn it into an annual figure.

then speculate on what has to be done to afford rent and bills, plus that total figure.

lets say it was $500 /week drugs, and $200 for food. allow $250/week rent or so, and $100 for basic utilities.

that's over $50k right there. $25k in drugs.

how do you get $50k/year by apparently doing nothing?

it cold be 5 x $10000 G4P sessions.... damn thats a nasty thought.

[Weedlejuice]

so at 200mgs per mil that is 35 ml of oil, where the fuck to they put all that oil?

They dont use 200mg per ml, pharma dont even make alot of the compounds used, test decanoate,cyp and enanthate is probably around 300-400 per ml same goes or most other offseason drugs, they probably do 2 or 3 4ml shots twice a week and stick it anywhere, their delts are bigger than most people glutes.

Not even that bad, ed 2ml shots are a bigger pain in the arse than that, literally.

[Bevo]

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.  This dose is common on the national level.  I know for a fact Dorian was using 40 iu per day of GH, and that was in the 1990s.  Ronnie was well over that, fact.  The standard dose of just test for these guys is 5-7 grams per week.  That's just test.  I know many national level guys that are using these doses.  Pros are pros for a reason..  Drugs and a ton of them.  Believe what you want, but you're wrong.

Hahaha where's your proof?

Where u get your info? Boston Lloyd?

U "geniuses" crack me up with absolutely no proof and clue what Dorian takes but "u know for a fact"

As usual spewing crap and nonsense

[kreator]

i think bodybuilders ( not your typical 200 lbs gym rats) are one of the worst people out there, personality wise

[Thong Maniac]

Haha, I use 10iu's of Serostim ed along with 50mcg of T3 and 100mcg of T4,  I can eat whatever I want whenever I want and still lose fat, however, I never go over 2500-3000 cals a day but even if I do I still wake up leaner the next day.  I can't even imagine taking 30-40iu's a day!

what is your job? if you use 10 iu daily of real sero (600-800 dollars per 26iu kit) , you must be rich as shit, and have no personal issues with blowing that much on a quest for gainz. please let us broke getbiggers know how u afford this.

i was thinking the same about juan, his house looks super nice as well. if he is in thr NY area, thta house is probably pushing the 700k stage. with kids and that food bill, i dont understand how he would make that work unless wife is also making a good living with real job.

[8 INCH not biceps]

Juan is a heart attack waiting to happen he has an extremely unhealthy diet in the offseason eats a lot of junk combined with high doses of anabolics its only a matter of time.

[illuminati]

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.  This dose is common on the national level.  I know for a fact Dorian was using 40 iu per day of GH, and that was in the 1990s.  Ronnie was well over that, fact.  The standard dose of just test for these guys is 5-7 grams per week.  That's just test.  I know many national level guys that are using these doses.  Pros are pros for a reason..  Drugs and a ton of them.  Believe what you want, but you're wrong.

Hmmm -- That is very different to the amounts I have known Dorian to use.
Fact is only Dorian really knows what he took.

What he had told others may be conflicting.

Yes a lot of drugs are required at the top pro level
Then So are having the Response To them Genetics
And Structure & Muscle Shape Genetics.

There have been a lot Very Big Bodybuilders & No Doubt
On a lot of Drugs.
They Haven't all Won Mr.O Titles

[TheOne]

"what is your job? if you use 10 iu daily of real sero (600-800 dollars per 26iu kit) , you must be rich as shit, and have no personal issues with blowing that much on a quest for gainz. please let us broke getbiggers know how u afford this"

Without going into too much boring detail, I work in the financial services industry.  At the end of the year I end up getting quite a sizeable bonus in a lump sum.  That money mostly goes to human grade GH which I buy in bulk.  Not a very exciting story I know.

[Skeletor]

Cyborg and Gabi GHarcia

Pretty ladies right there

Palumbo levels of GH..
Despite the makeup, you can still see the 5 o'clock shadow.

[Taffin]

And that's just the good stuff.  God help you if you get a tainted batch from the Chernobyl lab...

[Simple Simon]

They dont use 200mg per ml, pharma dont even make alot of the compounds used, test decanoate,cyp and enanthate is probably around 300-400 per ml same goes or most other offseason drugs, they probably do 2 or 3 4ml shots twice a week and stick it anywhere, their delts are bigger than most people glutes.

Not even that bad, ed 2ml shots are a bigger pain in the arse than that, literally.

so they are injecting UGL all the time and homemade brews?
If they are they will be getting a lot more PIP due to the high concentrate which would make multiple shots even more difficult.

Although I did speak to a powerlifter on another forum who told me he puts 10ml a shot in his quads??

[Van_Bilderass]

so they are injecting UGL all the time and homemade brews?
If they are they will be getting a lot more PIP due to the high concentrate which would make multiple shots even more difficult.

Although I did speak to a powerlifter on another forum who told me he puts 10ml a shot in his quads??

Never tried the high concentrate stuff myself but seen some claims of "painless" 500mg/ml test etc. I remember a mod on Llewellyn's forum saying that, how he made some painless 500mg test for a very top deadlifter and he would do 4ml twice weekly - 4 grams a week.

A friend of mine saw a bb in Lebanon do 10ml of 250mg test in the glute once weekly, actually had a nurse do the shots at a hospital. I have tried 5ml or a little over no problem but I wouldn't attempt 10ml.
Certainly 4ml at least is perfectly fine for anyone, the Nebido test replacement comes in a 4ml vial (1 gram) which you shoot every couple, three months.

[Simple Simon]

Never tried the high concentrate stuff myself but seen some claims of "painless" 500mg/ml test etc. I remember a mod on Llewellyn's forum saying that, how he made some painless 500mg test for a very top deadlifter and he would do 4ml twice weekly - 4 grams a week.

A friend of mine saw a bb in Lebanon do 10ml of 250mg test in the glute once weekly, actually had a nurse do the shots at a hospital. I have tried 5ml or a little over no problem but I wouldn't attempt 10ml.
Certainly 4ml at least is perfectly fine for anyone, the Nebido test replacement comes in a 4ml vial (1 gram) which you shoot every couple, three months.

Exactly, not every other day, putting that amount in a muscle is asking for trouble.
Painless 500mg per mil is under dosed.

how did your friend see a nurse at hospital administer a 10ml shot, seems a far fetched story to me.
"Nurse, can you shoot this in my arse and my friend wants to come in while you do it"

[falco]

Whats next? Is he going to claim natural?