Dorian Yates - Picture Gallery - Discussion

[Rambone]

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[Earl1972]

Bump because

did you know it was a year exactly since the thread started?

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[NotMrAverage]

Very over rated with goofy looking feet (and ears until he had them pinned back).

I think a lot of white dudes just happy to see a white guy being competitive.

No comparison to the quality of Ronnie, Levrone, Flex and (even Jay in his prime). And even Heath would beat him.

Overrated? Dorian won 6 olympias and 4 of them with torn bodyparts. Severly torn bodyparts aswell. He won against much stellar genetic pool to that and still hold his own. Underated would be a better word.

[Simple Simon]

Overrated? Dorian won 6 olympias and 4 of them with torn bodyparts. Severly torn bodyparts aswell. He won against much stellar genetic pool to that and still hold his own. Underated would be a better word.

you are aware thats not a good thing.....

anyone with missing bodyparts shouldnt be Mr Olympia...
Labrada, Ray, didnt ever stand onstage with a missing bodypart, almost all other top 10 Olympia competitors have missing bodyparts, its normally calves.

[illuminati]

you are aware thats not a good thing.....

anyone with missing bodyparts shouldnt be Mr Olympia...
Labrada, Ray, didnt ever stand onstage with a missing bodypart, almost all other top 10 Olympia competitors have missing bodyparts, its normally calves.

You are spot on.
judging criteria is-The best overall physique / not just the biggest / most defined.
The man who is most balanced from top to toe left to right and back & front with adequate size & conditioning, Presentation also.

That's as it should be judged as we all know the rule books went out the window as soon as they wrote them - Perhaps if they had stuck to the judging criteria Bodybuilding physiques wouldn't be in the mess they are.

clearly some body parts rank higher than others - physical imbalances don't matter or missing body parts
When you look at it like that the judging has needed a needed a complete overhaul for a very long time.                                              

[Grape Ape]

You are spot on.
judging criteria is-The best overall physique / not just the biggest / most defined.
The man who is most balanced from top to toe left to right and back & front with adequate size & conditioning, Presentation also.

That's as it should be judged as we all know the rule books went out the window as soon as they wrote them - Perhaps if they had stuck to the judging criteria Bodybuilding physiques wouldn't be in the mess they are.

clearly some body parts rank higher than others - physical imbalances don't matter or missing body parts
When you look at it like that the judging has needed a needed a complete overhaul for a very long time.                                              

They did stick to the judging criteria.   This is exactly why Yates won, despite the flaws.

[illuminati]

They did stick to the judging criteria.   This is exactly why Yates won, despite the flaws.

Do you really think so.

I have to state I Like Dorian's Physique, And as contradictory is it sounds to my previous post can see & understand why he won.

They are not generally sticking to the judging criteria as stated in judging book.

As Be There stated its hard to fault the likes of Shawn & Lee Labrada

[Simple Simon]

They did stick to the judging criteria.   This is exactly why Yates won, despite the flaws.

he was missing biceps and triceps

Does this look like Mr O

[Mr.1derful]

he was missing biceps and triceps

Does this look like Mr O

By the same token, Nasser was missing an entire back. 

[Simple Simon]

By the same token, Nasser was missing an entire back. 

Shawn wasnt missing a single thing

find me a flaw on that physique

[Grape Ape]

Do you really think so.

I have to state I Like Dorian's Physique, And as contradictory is it sounds to my previous post can see & understand why he won.

They are not generally sticking to the judging criteria as stated in judging book.

As Be There stated its hard to fault the likes of Shawn & Lee Labrada

I do.

It's not the "least amount of faults" contest.  Muscular bulk, conditioning, etc count in every pose.

Overall, Yates met more of the judging criteria than the others.

[illuminati]

I do.

It's not the "least amount of faults" contest.  Muscular bulk, conditioning, etc count in every pose.

Overall, Yates met more of the judging criteria than the others.

As previously stated I like Dorian as a person & his physique when competing.


Let me play devils advocate here.

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"It's not the "least amount of faults" contest."
It should be.

Have you officiated as a judge at body building shows ?  I have.
Have you at any time read the judging criteria / rule book ? I have.
Have you competed at a national international Level ? I have.

 

[Tarantula157]

Shawn wasnt missing a single thing

find me a flaw on that physique

Shawn should have won in 97,NOT Dorian or Nasser.

[Rascal full]

Shawn should have won in 97,NOT Dorian or Nasser.

Agreed, Dorian got the nod due to bodybuilding politics not because he was best on stage that night.

[The Scott]

he was missing biceps and triceps

Does this look like Mr O

His chest is too big for his arms.  He's only got one pose and in that he looks like a giant spider...

And you are correct.  Dorian should never have won looking like that and would only have won if the rest of the of the competition looked worse.  But they didn't.  He should have lost.

Just like Haney should've lost to Lee Labrada at least once and maybe twice.  This crap of you MUST dethrone the reigning Mr. O to win is just that, crap.  Especially when the reigning O dethroned themselves by coming in looking like poop. Even if the poop is 250 or so pounds.

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[delta9mda]

he was missing biceps and triceps

Does this look like Mr O

only looked bad in the fdb. Place him dead last in fdb, fine. He wins all the others. Game over

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[sceagacros]

Mentioning that while in the States for the Olympia competition he not only stayed with but worked out with the head judge - who could be counted on to award him the Sandow regardless of how many working limbs he brought to the show MIGHT be just a wee little bit relevant....


CRONYISM
cro·ny·ism
ˈkrōnēˌizəm/
the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Mentioning that while in the States for the Olympia competition he not only stayed with but worked out with the head judge - who could be counted on to award him the Sandow regardless of how many working limbs he brought to the show MIGHT be just a wee little bit relevant....
Can you say Cronyism?

Facts aren't your friend. Steve Wienberger judged Dorian in one contest , and placed him second 

[delta9mda]

And because they were friends steve excused himself from the judging.

[sceagacros]

I stand corrected.