Obama real legacy - collapse of the Democratic Party

[AbrahamG]

Yep, thats why the Republicans have been taking over all during his presidency.....
Good point.

I know that gerrymandering doesn't have anything to do with it, right?  Reread my post.  When he is on
the ballot, dems win.  When he wasn't they don't.  They cleaned up in 08 and in 12 dems collectively got
a million more votes than republicans down ballot. 

Try to keep up. 

[polychronopolous]

Yep, thats why the Republicans have been taking over all during his presidency.....
Good point.

That's the result you get when your whole party is based on a complete empty suit hack who couldn't manage a Dairy Queen.

Hard to really even call him a president because 99% of his "work" will be destroyed within the first few days by Trump's pen.

[Thin Lizzy]

Yep, thats why the Republicans have been taking over all during his presidency.....
Good point.

[mazrim]

AbrahamG: "But,but... he was black and he was awesome because he was black!! Facts ARE NOT reality!"

[polychronopolous]

This is the result of electing basically the male version of Paris Hilton as your President. The fact that he still has supporters on this subforum after being an absolute cancer for his party really blows my mind.

[AbrahamG]

Yet, not one refutation of my point. 

[Thin Lizzy]

Yet, not one refutation of my point.  

What is your point? That they picked up a few seats in 2012? Big fucking deal. They still didn't even come close to taking back the house, and after the ass raping they got in 2010, a bit of a bounce back was to be expected.

"Republicans regained control of the chamber they had lost in the 2006 midterm elections, picking up a net total of 63 seats and erasing the gains Democrats made in 2006 and 2008. Although the sitting U.S. President's party usually loses seats in a midterm election, the 2010 election resulted in the highest loss of a party in a House midterm election since 1938,[6][7] and the largest House swing since 1948.[8] This also happened to be the Republicans' largest gain in House seats since 1938.[9"





Moral victories are for losers.

[AbrahamG]

What is your point? That they picked up a few seats in 2012? Big fucking deal. They still didn't even come close to taking back the house.

Moral victories are for losers.

Point is when dems run from him, they lose.  One more time.  He received an average of 67 million votes the two times he ran.  How many did Mr. Trump receive?

His legacy will be that hopefully the Dems will finally learn their lesson and stop the centrist, pro wall street bullshit and become a truly progressive, democratic party.

Regarding a few seats in 2012?  Should have been more than a few.  They got over a million more votes.  What do you guys think Trump is going to do for the working class?

Ford isn't bringing small car production back.  No matter what.  They will discontinue those cars before they bring them back and make LESS money.  EPS will decrease and the stock will tank.  What is the Donald going to do about that?

[Thin Lizzy]

Point is when dems run from him, they lose.  One more time.  He received an average of 67 million votes the two times he ran.  How many did Mr. Trump receive?

His legacy will be that hopefully the Dems will finally learn their lesson and stop the centrist, pro wall street bullshit and become a truly progressive, democratic party.

Regarding a few seats in 2012?  Should have been more than a few.  They got over a million more votes.  What do you guys think Trump is going to do for the working class?

Ford isn't bringing small car production back.  No matter what.  They will discontinue those cars before they bring them back and make LESS money.  EPS will decrease and the stock will tank.  What is the Donald going to do about that?

Shoulda woulda coulda no one gives a fuck. You lost everything.

[mazrim]

I know that gerrymandering doesn't have anything to do with it, right?  Reread my post.  When he is on
the ballot, dems win.  When he wasn't they don't.  They cleaned up in 08 and in 12 dems collectively got
a million more votes than republicans down ballot.  

Try to keep up.  

Laughable post. Extremely ignorant. You do realize one is during a presidential/national vote and one isn't? You shouldn't need that explained to you why a certain party might receive more votes overall in an election year no matter who the president is.

Now refute Thin Lizzy. You can't and haven't.

[mazrim]

And also a special guest appearance by Obama himself to refute you Mr. Abraham.

Pre-election:
Obama,"My legacy will be lost if you don't vote for Hillary."

Post-election:
Obama (while finagling with play-doh),"Noone cares about my legacy or anything I did....Well, actually they must not have liked it very well at all."

[Thin Lizzy]

Laughable post. Extremely ignorant. You do realize one is during a presidential/national vote and one isn't? You shouldn't need that explained to you why a certain party might receive more votes overall in an election year no matter who the president is.

Now refute Thin Lizzy. You can't and haven't.

What he's peddling is the current Dem talking point to explain this historic defeat.

It took me about 5 minutes of research to destroy it.

The Bottom Line is that Obama suffered two historic shellackings under his watch. Whether he was on the ballot or not, he was still the President.

[AbrahamG]

Look you two dummies.  Obama received more votes in 08 and 12 than any other candidate in history.  This year is all about Clinton fatigue.  Even with that,
she still got more votes.  Obama is at a near all time high approval rating and would have cleared 70 million votes if he were on the ballot.  My fingertips are starting to
hurt from owning the living shit out of you two bozo's.

Have a grand night. 

Talk to you in 2-4 years when the economy is in tatters like it was pre-Obama. 

[GigantorX]

Look you two dummies.  Obama received more votes in 08 and 12 than any other candidate in history.  This year is all about Clinton fatigue.  Even with that,
she still got more votes.  Obama is at a near all time high approval rating and would have cleared 70 million votes if he were on the ballot.  My fingertips are starting to
hurt from owning the living shit out of you two bozo's.

Have a grand night. 

Talk to you in 2-4 years when the economy is in tatters like it was pre-Obama. 

Wow. Still in denial!

[AbrahamG]

Wow. Still in denial!

Make that 3 dummies.

[Thin Lizzy]

Look you two dummies.  Obama received more votes in 08 and 12 than any other candidate in history.  This year is all about Clinton fatigue.  Even with that,
she still got more votes.  Obama is at a near all time high approval rating and would have cleared 70 million votes if he were on the ballot.  My fingertips are starting to
hurt from owning the living shit out of you two bozo's.

Have a grand night.  

Talk to you in 2-4 years when the economy is in tatters like it was pre-Obama.  

You owned us the way the girls at Huffpo did:

Just relax and hit the Play Doh. Your delicate mental state seems to require it.

Make that 3 dummies.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-wreckage-of-obamas-legacy.html?ref=opinion&_r=0


The comments are amazing by some.  libfags in sheer denial and delusion - but most coming to terms what a disastrous failure Obama is and was and will forever be.

F him. 

[Thin Lizzy]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-wreckage-of-obamas-legacy.html?ref=opinion&_r=0


The comments are amazing by some.  libfags in sheer denial and delusion - but most coming to terms what a disastrous failure Obama is and was and will forever be.

F him. 

Obama, himself, is in denial. He's hiding out in other parts of the world and giving rambling, incoherent speeches, pretending as though he's still relevant.

[Yamcha]

Trump's win proves that Obama's "legacy" in the History books will be solidified as an absolute failure; and not only to his own presidency, but to his own party.

His two major accomplishments:
1. Obamacare
2. Iran Deal

The hoops that the liberals have to jump through to defend his two key accomplishments in 8 years is amazing; Neither has helped American workers in the slightest.

[Soul Crusher]

Obama, himself, is in denial. He's hiding out in other parts of the world and giving rambling, incoherent speeches, pretending as though he's still relevant.

Its comical how desperate O-TWINK is to remain relevant

[Thin Lizzy]

Leftist Progressives simply overestimate the number of Americans who are Leftist Progressive. It's a center right country. Calling people who disagree them racist/sexist/homophobic is inaccurate. The phobia we have is for Leftists. I would dislike a Gay Leftist even if he were straight.

So, the idea that Democrats suffered the losses they did under Obama is a result of not being far enough to the Left is structurally flawed and will result in more failure.

I'm glad they feel this way and hope they don't change.

[Yamcha]

[loco]

Obama's legacy:

Pedos and sexual predators can now legally lurk the women's bathrooms at their own leisure.

[GigantorX]

Leftist Progressives simply overestimate the number of Americans who are Leftist Progressive. It's a center right country. Calling people who disagree them racist/sexist/homophobic is inaccurate. The phobia we have is for Leftists. I would dislike a Gay Leftist even if he were straight.

So, the idea that Democrats suffered the losses they did under Obama is a result of not being far enough to the Left is structurally flawed and will result in more failure.

I'm glad they feel this way and hope they don't change.

After every single massive repudiation of the Left Progressive Marxist agenda the Left always says, "Well, I think we moved too far too fast for the American people..." the pundits and propagandists in the media always say this.

Maybe it's the fact that they get humiliated and defeated time and time again because they keep attempting to move in that direction at all? Not too far too fast to the left, just to the left is why they get slaughtered.

[Yamcha]