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Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« on: November 17, 2016, 05:17:55 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc
Turns out small calcium deposits were in the muscle thus resulting in this extreme pain.
Made 3 infiltrations over two weeks, took many pain killers.

Wanted to know if any of you ever experienced this type of situation.
And above all if you were able to start training again, and if yes what you changed.

Hope there's no gay material in this post, but in any case "no homo", just to be safe.
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 05:20:03 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc
Turns out small calcium deposits were in the muscle thus resulting in this extreme pain.
Made 3 infiltrations over two weeks, took many pain killers.

Wanted to know if any of you ever experienced this type of situation.
And above all if you were able to start training again, and if yes what you changhed.

Hope there's no gay material in this post, but in any case "no homo", just to be safe.

What exercises are causing the pain? No one should do behind the neck presses or pulldowns. Lateral raises shouldn't be heavy and should have thumbs facing up. Front raises should have thumbs facing up. Just simple shit like that can stop damage.

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2016, 05:24:41 AM »
Thanks for your post Falls.
Honestly I was already following what you mentioned.

What I don't really understand if how this could happen to a natty moving 40s dumbells for bench press for example.

I train since 1990 and I'm 42 now but I was never preparing for a bench press contest or competing in powerlifting!

I would really like to understand if someone had the same experience in order to see if I can get back to the gym (or not).
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2016, 05:28:00 AM »
Thanks for your post Falls.
Honestly I was already following what you mentioned.

What I don't really understand if how this could happen to a natty moving 40s dumbells for bench press for example.

I train since 1990 and I'm 42 now but I was never preparing for a bench press contest or competing in powerlifting!

I would really like to understand if someone had the same experience in order to see if I can get back to the gym (or not).

Bench presses fuck up the shoulder...dumbells are better. But...decline presses are better for the shoulder.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2016, 05:32:12 AM »
Bench presses fuck up the shoulder...dumbells are better. But...decline presses are better for the shoulder.

Agreed. When I was recovering from a shoulder injury I could use the decline press with much less pain.

Don't have it at my current gym but think it's a superior chest exercise anyway.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2016, 05:32:38 AM »
Leave flat bench, its pointless anyway. Incline Bar and Dbs work much better.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2016, 05:46:34 AM »
I have a friend who had calcium deposits in his shoulders. He was about your age at the time. Doctors told him he had to quit, wich he did.
I have rotator cuff tendonitis wich is a different issue. Also had a parcial tear on the one in the right side. I deal with it by doing everything underhand grip; benches, rows, presses...Have been pain free since i changed my trainig style.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2016, 06:04:49 AM »
Shock wave therapy sounds like the best option here - anything not cutting you up.
I have had numerous pains after many years of lifting and totally abandoned anything heavy. The intense pain you're feeling may have to do with your rib cage since you have been moving heavy objects... many pains "radiate through the body" and can sometimes give a false source.

Again, just an idea - you are better off seeking out a real specialist which can be a workout in itself.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2016, 06:10:47 AM »
Shock wave therapy sounds like the best option here - anything not cutting you up.
I have had numerous pains after many years of lifting and totally abandoned anything heavy. The intense pain you're feeling may have to do with your rib cage since you have been moving heavy objects... many pains "radiate through the body" and can sometimes give a false source.

Again, just an idea - you are better off seeking out a real specialist which can be a workout in itself.

I saw two of them, and their opinion was the same: it is related to genetics and the only option is to quit lifting.
I have a job that is not related to being on stage in a pink thong but nevertheless I enjoyed training.
This is why I asked if someone else was successful in dealing with this and still training.
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2016, 06:22:31 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc
Turns out small calcium deposits were in the muscle thus resulting in this extreme pain.
Made 3 infiltrations over two weeks, took many pain killers.

Wanted to know if any of you ever experienced this type of situation.
And above all if you were able to start training again, and if yes what you changed.

Hope there's no gay material in this post, but in any case "no homo", just to be safe.

This came from years of bad habits, ego lifting, bad form, not stretching, no deep tissue massage to relax the muscle now you are paying the price let this be a warning to others.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2016, 06:46:52 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc


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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2016, 06:51:13 AM »
I've been lifting for a good number of years and have been benching, squatting, deadlifting, military press, barbell curls, etc. fairly heavy. Never any major problems. Occassional shoulder or elbow strain that lasts maybe a week at most. A lot of guys aren't cut out for this stuff and should be advised to try some different hobbies until they discover something that works for them. For some it may be a musical instrument, for others it could be a coin collection. You see these guys in the gym year after, spinning their wheels, always looking the same. Then one day they wrench a shoulder or a knee and it's all over. The doctor kindly advises them to move on from lifting. Meanwhile the doctor is thinking does this guy even lift?
With me, I took to lifting like a fish to water and I've always been huge and strong as an ox. I make progress every year in both size and strength. I just love it.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 06:56:00 AM »
I've been lifting for a good number of years and have been benching, squatting, deadlifting, military press, barbell curls, etc. fairly heavy. Never any major problems. Occassional shoulder or elbow strain that lasts maybe a week at most. A lot of guys aren't cut out for this stuff and should be advised to try some different hobbies until they discover something that works for them. For some it may be a musical instrument, for others it could be a coin collection. You see these guys in the gym year after, spinning their wheels, always looking the same. Then one day they wrench a shoulder or a knee and it's all over. The doctor kindly advises them to move on from lifting. Meanwhile the doctor is thinking does this guy even lift?
With me, I took to lifting like a fish to water and I've always been huge and strong as an ox. I make progress every year in both size and strength. I just love it.

Post a pic I want to see the progress you've made.

But I know you will ignore this request because "you" don't really exist.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2016, 06:58:47 AM »
Post a pic I want to see the progress you've made.

But I know you will ignore this request because "you" don't really exist.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2016, 07:19:23 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc
Turns out small calcium deposits were in the muscle thus resulting in this extreme pain.
Made 3 infiltrations over two weeks, took many pain killers.

Wanted to know if any of you ever experienced this type of situation.
And above all if you were able to start training again, and if yes what you changed.

Hope there's no gay material in this post, but in any case "no homo", just to be safe.
            watch the branch warren video on warming up your shoulder before you attempt to lift..it actually makes sense, don't lift like he does after though.. press behind the neck, lat pulldowns behind the neck. close grip pulls to build the traps aren't for everyone either.
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2016, 07:47:50 AM »
meat eating zapps ur calcium
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2016, 08:35:55 AM »
I saw two of them, and their opinion was the same: it is related to genetics and the only option is to quit lifting.
I have a job that is not related to being on stage in a pink thong but nevertheless I enjoyed training.
This is why I asked if someone else was successful in dealing with this and still training.


Seems like I misunderstood what you wrote a bit. The only further input that I can give is to check if you suffer from chronic hypercalcaemia and the shoulder issue is connected to this.
Good luck.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2016, 08:38:27 AM »
meat eating zapps ur calcium

had 4 big macs yesterday = 109% calcium (108.4mg)

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2016, 08:43:52 AM »
Bombarding the injury with Western solutions will make things worse. The Western mind is concerned with the armor, with the exterior of things. This is simple. Your chakras are out of alignment. We need to get inside the life force and put it in alignment. PM me and I will write out a simple Yoga prescription for you. Cheers.

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2016, 08:48:43 AM »
Bombarding the injury with Western solutions will make things worse. The Western mind is concerned with the armor, with the exterior of things. This is simple. Your chakras are out of alignment. We need to get inside the life force and put it in alignment. PM me and I will write out a simple Yoga prescription for you. Cheers.

are balls touching during ur yoga sessions  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D????
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2016, 08:50:29 AM »
are balls touching during ur yoga sessions  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D????
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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2016, 08:58:04 AM »
Few months ago I was moving heavy furniture at my parent's house to make space for medical devices necessary to help my father.
Within few hours I started to feel a growing-aching and deep pain in my right shoulder.
Didn't know what was coming: 5 days of terrible and unbearable pain.
Went to the hospital xray, ultrasound etc etc
Turns out small calcium deposits were in the muscle thus resulting in this extreme pain.
Made 3 infiltrations over two weeks, took many pain killers.

Wanted to know if any of you ever experienced this type of situation.
And above all if you were able to start training again, and if yes what you changed.

Hope there's no gay material in this post, but in any case "no homo", just to be safe.

What part of your shoulder? Anterior? posterior? Does the pain run from the bicep to the front of the shoulder?

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2016, 02:43:16 AM »
Dealing with a pinched nerve in my left rotator, pain travels up the neck (trap) on that side (stiff/painful neck), and whole left arm is numb/tingly, with pins / needles on all my finger tips.
After a few days I went into Dr. to be sure it wasnt heart related, you know the left arm thing. Anyways, train safely until youre healed I guess is all I can recommend...

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2016, 04:17:43 AM »
What helped me heal from a front shoulder injury in the past was acupuncture.

I had it done at a Chinese place, first they did a massive amount of stretching, then deep massage in the muscle for spasms and to iron out scar tissue, then acupuncture attached to a machine which sends electrical impulses into the muscle, and finally cupping (heated glass which sucks up skin and brings blood to surface to help eliminate toxins) in the front and back of my shoulder

After 5 sessions my shoulder was completely fixed, before that I could barely hold or lift up a cup of coffee.

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Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2016, 04:56:25 AM »
What part of your shoulder? Anterior? posterior? Does the pain run from the bicep to the front of the shoulder?

I have no pain now.
The doctor told me it's painful when the calcium deposits are melting; before or after you do not have any syntoms.
It was located in ALL the shoulder and the mobility was zero.
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