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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2017, 08:22:55 AM »
i could have sworn he trained h.i.t style back in the 90's i could be wrong, flamed out pretty fast as a pro

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2017, 02:06:58 PM »
not hit really. he was pushing the "bulgarian" system. basically working out several times a day doing short but intense workouts. ( oh and lots of drugs  oops i meant supplements)  lol  he was trying to 'sell " a system  just like mentzer was trying to sell a system. just trying to make money off gullable people.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2017, 03:23:42 PM »
Ever read this guy's resentful, communist whining on Facebook? He once implied fast food workers work just as hard as surgeons.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2017, 04:02:43 PM »
Ever read this guy's resentful, communist whining on Facebook? He once implied fast food workers work just as hard as surgeons.

There's a shit ton of medical malpractice (my dad actually had MERSA after his surgeon operated and decided he didn't need antibiotics :roll:), but imagine if surgeons fucked up their work .00001% of the time any given fast food joint bungled daily orders.

"Oh, it was his *gall bladder* I was supposed to put back in?  Oops.  Tell him we're sorry and give him a small Coke, on the house!"

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2017, 04:29:20 PM »
not hit really. he was pushing the "bulgarian" system. basically working out several times a day doing short but intense workouts. ( oh and lots of drugs  oops i meant supplements)  lol  he was trying to 'sell " a system  just like mentzer was trying to sell a system. just trying to make money off gullable people.

I remember his Bulgarian training vids.  Watching him struggle to squat 405 for a few reps was an Eye-opener  ???

Now, sometime later, he did at least *write* about doing very, very low volume training -- something like doing one hard set/body part maybe thrice weekly -- but it didn't seem like he was promoting that.  He actually called his method "lazy" and said he'd need to step it up if he was to do well in the pro ranks.

Sometime later still, he was fond of at least three sets of at least one exercise per part (maybe more?), but his gimmick was to do a set of 4-6, another 8-12, and a final one 15-upwards of 20 (or more; my memory is already failing me, no shit).  I could write the broscience article behind that rather easily, even if my editor told me I needed to sneak some product placement in there.  

No kidding:  I swear to all of you, if I did ghost write articles, I bet I could be so much more subtle, and also much more convincing, in promoting bullshit than a great many.  You don't even need a great bodybuilders to push crap:  witness the success Muscletech enjoyed by hyping Kovacs (may he RIP in his giant coffin).

Meh.  I reckon I missed my calling  :'(  :D

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2017, 04:50:38 PM »
yes the low rep then med rep set then a higher rep set was suposed to hit all the muscle fibers. its like mentzers theory. it sounds good on paper but it doesnt really work. but not everyone responds to the same stimulis. i personaly believe one workout low reps next workout med reps and last workout high reps. ( a 3 day whole body workout) on paper should work covers everything. but anyway thats just my theory. lol   yes he was a douche thats why titus blew his top when he lost to him. ( well one of the reasons anyways) lol

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2017, 06:39:50 PM »
yes the low rep then med rep set then a higher rep set was suposed to hit all the muscle fibers. its like mentzers theory. it sounds good on paper but it doesnt really work. but not everyone responds to the same stimulis. i personaly believe one workout low reps next workout med reps and last workout high reps. ( a 3 day whole body workout) on paper should work covers everything. but anyway thats just my theory. lol   yes he was a douche thats why titus blew his top when he lost to him. ( well one of the reasons anyways) lol

Titus got outmuscled. In 1995, bodybuilding was a size game. Titus showed up to the USA's with a ponytail and tried to look like a pretty boy. Hernon looked like a tank and was given the victory.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2017, 06:42:08 PM »
To add to my post above concerning 1995:

Francios won the ASC
Nasser won the NOC
Palumbo won the Jr Nationals
Hernon won the USA
Yates won the Olympia

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2017, 04:15:51 AM »
To add to my post above concerning 1995:

Francios won the ASC
Nasser won the NOC
Palumbo won the Jr Nationals
Hernon won the USA
Yates won the Olympia

Nasser was better in 94. 95 he upped the slin and his waist got way, way thicker

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 04:21:40 AM »
Nasser was better in 94. 95 he upped the slin and his waist got way, way thicker

Yup. '94 to '95 NOC you can see the dramatic change.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 05:10:41 AM »
Nasser was better in 94. 95 he upped the slin and his waist got way, way thicker

My point was that the judges were looking for rugged physiques. Titus did not fit the bill.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 05:24:54 AM »
thats true. but titus did have the better body from a true bodybuilding point of view. but when the judges look for bigger or freakier the whole point of true bodybuilding goe out the window. arnold learned that lesson too when zane beat him.  bigger was they way to go in europe etc but zane had the better looking body from a bodybuilding point of view then arnold took his mass and chisleled it into the best ever

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2017, 07:28:45 AM »
Yup. '94 to '95 NOC you can see the dramatic change.

Wow he aged like 15 years between those 2 pics.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2017, 08:00:58 AM »
Yup. '94 to '95 NOC you can see the dramatic change.


93-94 is when he really, really transformed his physique. Rather see pictures of 92/93 versus 94 or even 92/93 vs 95. That really displays the transformation. I remember Nasser saying that like everybody. else, he'd been "maxed out" on steroid doses long ago and the only thing that keeps him growing and improving is GH). The accepted rumor is, according to those who knew him, was that he was still running 5 grams of testosterone a week will after he was retired and up till his death.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2017, 08:30:01 AM »
Any vids of the Bulgasaur training method?
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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2017, 02:05:12 PM »
Hernon was a true freak. For what ever reason he didn't keep competing he could have easily won some pro shows.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2017, 05:59:38 PM »
Yup. '94 to '95 NOC you can see the dramatic change.

This is a great illustration of just how much insulin comes in to play.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2017, 06:23:37 PM »
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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2017, 07:41:34 PM »
The Great Phil Hernon interviewed by Jerry Ward !!! ;)


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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2017, 08:24:16 PM »
Wow he aged like 15 years between those 2 pics.

Looks much better in second pic

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2017, 08:48:45 AM »
Toney Freeman once said that early in his career, Phil was the only person he ever stood besides and felt intimidated by even in the gym.  Later in his career it was Ronnie.


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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2017, 09:27:07 AM »
To add to my post above concerning 1995:

Francios won the ASC
Nasser won the NOC
Palumbo won the Jr Nationals
Hernon won the USA
Yates won the Olympia

Actually, Palumbo only won the HW class at Jr Nats, with LHW Willie Stalling winning the overall.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2017, 09:51:40 AM »
Hernon was a true freak. For what ever reason he didn't keep competing he could have easily won some pro shows.

I remember he said he stopped because he promised his kids not to end up in jail again. Apparently you can't compete
without risking that.

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Re: Phil HERNON's short bbing career
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2017, 06:30:26 AM »
The Great Phil Hernon interviewed by Jerry Ward !!! ;)



nice interview