my off season diet!

[JCL]

You ate too many calories....

I ate 1800 cals, im 190 lbs, 5"11 of whatever I wanted and looked and felt like shit.

Changed those 1800 cals to good cals and I leaned up quickly...

MAybe im just special.

[Simple Simon]

I ate 1800 cals, im 190 lbs, 5"11 of whatever I wanted and looked and felt like shit.

Changed those 1800 cals to good cals and I leaned up quickly...

MAybe im just special.

Likely you just lost water due to eating less sodium...

[JCL]

Likely you just lost water due to eating less sodium...

No i went from 180 lean to 200 looking doughy.

Cleaned up foods and went back down to 180 in 4 weeks, with serious training.

[Simple Simon]

No i went from 180 lean to 200 looking doughy.

Cleaned up foods and went back down to 180 in 4 weeks, with serious training.

I can drop 8lbs in a few days buy cleaning up what I eat, water can make you look like shit very quickly.

[JCL]

I can drop 8lbs in a few days buy cleaning up what I eat, water can make you look like shit very quickly.

Yeah probably all the beer I drink after I play hockey 2-3x a week. Gotta be the culprit.

Other then that my diet is pretty clean.

[Go 4 It]

I ate 1800 cals, im 190 lbs, 5"11 of whatever I wanted and looked and felt like shit.

Changed those 1800 cals to good cals and I leaned up quickly...

MAybe im just special.

1800 calories at 190?? Wtf?? Dude that's seriously low..and you gained weight?

[ratherbebig]

the diet of champions!

[JCL]

1800 calories at 190?? Wtf?? Dude that's seriously low..and you gained weight?

Ya dude I gain easily I don't know why.  I had a trainer a d he had me on a 2500 cal cutting diet and I got fat as fuck.  I k ow what works for me.  Low carbs low fat high protein and high intensity cardio and weights.  This is the only thing that works for me to get lean. 

[Go 4 It]

Ya dude I gain easily I don't know why.  I had a trainer a d he had me on a 2500 cal cutting diet and I got fat as fuck.  I k ow what works for me.  Low carbs low fat high protein and high intensity cardio and weights.  This is the only thing that works for me to get lean. 

You have to have metabolic issues, a guy your size should be getting atleast 2600 cal base line. Bikini and figure chicks diet on those numbers, have you had your thyroid checked? No hate, just sad to see a guy your size eating so little, I mean at the very last stages of my prep I may be around 1800 cals and that's at a weight of 155-160 and that's on a very low day. Like I said not hating, you've had to have damaged you metabolic system to gain weight on so little calories.

[chaos]

last 4 years

Traps/shoulders getting smaller, chest getting flatter, abs looking melty, waist getting wider, heaven forbid we see a leg comparison for the last 4 years.....but keep eating that junk food, all good.

[JCL]

You have to have metabolic issues, a guy your size should be getting atleast 2600 cal base line. Bikini and figure chicks diet on those numbers, have you had your thyroid checked? No hate, just sad to see a guy your size eating so little, I mean at the very last stages of my prep I may be around 1800 cals and that's at a weight of 155-160 and that's on a very low day. Like I said not hating, you've had to have damaged you metabolic system to gain weight on so little calories.

Maybe it was the clen I tool years ago who knows. 

To be honest I doubt I have a thyroid issue.  I don't get huge and fat I just mean I hover at the same weight and put muscle and fat on when I eat more them 2200. 1800 to 2000 seems to be my key range for getting lean.

I can still eat 6 meals a day at 1800 to 2000.. Feels like I'm always full. 

[Man of Steel]

last 4 years

Look great!

[Simple Simon]

Traps/shoulders getting smaller, chest getting flatter, abs looking melty, waist getting wider, heaven forbid we see a leg comparison for the last 4 years.....but keep eating that junk food, all good.

bottom pics are stage ready, middle pics 10/15lb heavier.
legs are fine

[cephissus]

How any grown adult can eat 1800 calories for any length of time while training in any capacity boggles my mind...

[Simple Simon]

How any grown adult can eat 1800 calories for any length of time while training in any capacity boggles my mind...

according to 8 inch not biceps you just need to spike insulin to get fat, calorific deficit doesnt matter.

[light weight baby]

i've been eating a lot of unclean food lately

it's all pointless anyway

[smoothasf]

You can't judge how many calories by weight,  some people at 6foot 180pounds are maintaining that physique with 10% bodyfat some with 24%.bodyfat.  underneath all the excess fat they are small guys who need less calories.  The amount of times I hear "I need more food I'm a big guy" when in reality they are 145pounds if the correct weight.