Trump = Winning

[LurkerNoMore]

Fresh off his lie that some states are allowing the execution of babies after they are born (but yet he can't and won't name a single state that allow it...         )

The orange turd is now claiming mobs are stealing AC units.  This man will lie about anything and his dumb ass supporters will believe anything.  Dumb and Dumber.   But then again this is the same idiot that believes in magnet elevators, raking the forest, and have to show ID to buy breakfast cereal. 

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Trump claims mobs of 500 people are raiding stores to steal air conditioners
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump+claims+mobs+of+500+people+are+raiding+stores+to+steal+air+conditioners

“You go to some of these department stores, 500 people walk into the stores, they walk out with air conditioners — they strip the whole store,” Trump said in a nearly hourlong, off-the-cuff address to Turning Point Action in Arizona while railing against the Biden administration's policies.
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[chaos]

Fresh off his lie that some states are allowing the execution of babies after they are born (but yet he can't and won't name a single state that allow it...         )

Won't even address the stupidity about the second half, plenty of videos to prove it.

But for the record, six states and D.C. don’t have bans at any gestational stage.

Alaska, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, Vermont, New Jersey and DC.

*Stolen form a June 2022 article. Closed the link before I could copy.

[LurkerNoMore]

Won't even address the stupidity about the second half, plenty of videos to prove it.

But for the record, six states and D.C. don’t have bans at any gestational stage.

Alaska, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, Vermont, New Jersey and DC.

*Stolen form a June 2022 article. Closed the link before I could copy.

Gestational stage ends at what point?  This is not a reference to the gestational stage.  Trumpy clearly stated that states are allowing babies to be executed after the birthing process has occurred and they are now in our physical world.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-abortion-babies-executed/index.html

 In a Fox News interview on Wednesday, Trump said, “Hard to believe, they have some states passing legislation where you can execute the baby after birth. It’s crazy.”

Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. No state has passed or is passing a law that allows the execution of a baby after it is born. Killing a person after birth is illegal in every state. “Every state explicitly criminalizes infanticide,” Mary Ziegler, a professor at the University of California, Davis School of Law, said Thursday. “There is no basis for this claim,” Kimberly Mutcherson, a professor at Rutgers Law School, said Thursday.

The Trump campaign did not respond to a CNN request to specify which states Trump was talking about. Mutcherson said: “The falsity of the claim can be seen in the fact that Trump never identifies such a state.”

[OzmO]

Hard to understand how blatantly wrong this entire ordeal is if you didn't follow the trial . . . and compound that by relying on AI. 

The AI excerpts don't really say much of anything.  You are of course free to rely on that kind of thing, but it really only gives you a surface level understanding of what happened, and even then not entirely accurate.

Your AI did not address what I posted about the underlying crime.  At least not accurately.  And just like I have repeatedly said (and shown), we do not know what the "other crime is." 

Regarding Bradley Smith, he posted a long thread on X that explained just why precluding his testimony was so harmful. 
https://twitter.com/CommishSmith/status/1796800867313590761

In a nutshell, a campaign expenditure is something that would only ever be spent on a political campaign.  Like political polling data involving the candidate's campaign.  NDAs happen all the time outside of political campaigns, so Trump's payment was not a campaign expenditure.  The jury needed to hear that.  Instead, what they heard is that Cohen pleaded guilty to an FEC violation, Pecker got a deal to avoid being prosecuted for an FEC violation.  And then the Judge precluded evidence that the FEC and DOJ declined to prosecute Trump for an FEC violation.  That left the jury with the distinct impression that Trump must have committed an FEC violation as the "other crime."  But I've said all this already. . . .

It's still about interpretation of the law.  And these arguments were likely made by Trump's billionaire quality defense and failed during this trial.  If it's as you make it out to be then it may be appealed.   But until then Donald Trump is a felon.  I don't think what he did was worthy of a felony.  But he's a felon none the less.

[Soul Crusher]

It's still about interpretation of the law.  And these arguments were likely made by Trump's billionaire quality defense and failed during this trial.  If it's as you make it out to be then it may be appealed.   But until then Donald Trump is a felon.  I don't think what he did was worthy of a felony.  But he's a felon none the less.

Please - this was the most ridiculous prosecution of all time.   The statute of limitations passed on a misdemeanor years ago and somehow they came up with mysterious second crime still no one knows about to show horn it into a election crime.   Just absurd.  Only the truly TDS riddled nuts support this.  Thats why Trump is gaining in the polls. 

[Grape Ape]

It's still about interpretation of the law.  And these arguments were likely made by Trump's billionaire quality defense and failed during this trial.  If it's as you make it out to be then it may be appealed.   But until then Donald Trump is a felon.  I don't think what he did was worthy of a felony.  But he's a felon none the less.

He's a felon in the way OJ was innocent.

It is a guaranteed appeal.

Fuck, even Chris Cuomo said it was ridiculous and made up.

[OzmO]

Please - this was the most ridiculous prosecution of all time.   The statute of limitations passed on a misdemeanor years ago and somehow they came up with mysterious second crime still no one knows about to show horn it into a election crime.   Just absurd.  Only the truly TDS riddled nuts support this.  Thats why Trump is gaining in the polls.

I thought the Jean Carroll was more ridiculous

[OzmO]

He's a felon in the way OJ was innocent.

It is a guaranteed appeal.

Fuck, even Chris Cuomo said it was ridiculous and made up.

If it is in fact that; it should be appealed.  Again, so what you tried to hide fucking around so it didn't hurt your chances in the election.  That's not a felony, seriously.  Public shaming and picking up trash on the freeways for a few weekends along with a reasonable fine.   

The other part to this, is if it gets appealed should it set some sort precedence to avoid over-the-top punishments in the future?

[Dos Equis]

Please - this was the most ridiculous prosecution of all time.   The statute of limitations passed on a misdemeanor years ago and somehow they came up with mysterious second crime still no one knows about to show horn it into a election crime.   Just absurd.  Only the truly TDS riddled nuts support this.  Thats why Trump is gaining in the polls.

Absolutely absurd.

[Dos Equis]

He's a felon in the way OJ was innocent.

It is a guaranteed appeal.

Fuck, even Chris Cuomo said it was ridiculous and made up.

I think I posted the link in another thread, but Alan Dershowitz said it's the worst thing he has seen in his 60+ year career.

[Grape Ape]

I think I posted the link in another thread, but Alan Dershowitz said it's the worst thing he has seen in his 60+ year career.

It was done for the mere reason of being able to use the term "convicted felon".  There's really nothing more to it than that.

Bragg will be in front of Congress on the 13th, which will be good theater, but result in nothing.

This really is a "good for the country" thing that this gets appealed and overturned.  It's a blight on our systems, and is further eroding confidence.

The good news is that the NY appellate court SEEMS to be reasonable and fair  - they recently overturned something for Harvey Weinstein of all people, and he's as despicable as they can be.

[Dos Equis]

It was done for the mere reason of being able to use the term "convicted felon".  There's really nothing more to it than that.

Bragg will be in front of Congress on the 13th, which will be good theater, but result in nothing.

This really is a "good for the country" thing that this gets appealed and overturned.  It's a blight on our systems, and is further eroding confidence.

The good news is that the NY appellate court SEEMS to be reasonable and fair  - they recently overturned something for Harvey Weinstein of all people, and he's as despicable as they can be.

I agree.  The message from Soros' son (to say "convicted felon" as often as possible) is proof.  Plus there were polls that said a conviction might influence independent voters.  They don't care if it gets overturned, because that likely will not happen before November. 

I'm hearing the intermediate court of appeals in New York might be as partisan as this trial judge, but I did follow the Weinstein decision by their highest court.  It was a split decision, but they tossed his conviction because the judge was going to allow a bunch of women to testify and accuse him of misconduct, even though he wasn't charged with assaulting any of them.  Same thing happened in Trump's trial:  the judge was going to allow evidence of all of Trump's other cases, civil and criminal, if Trump testified.

But regardless of what happens with the appeal, the damage is done.   

[Grape Ape]

I agree.  The message from Soros' son (to say "convicted felon" as often as possible) is proof.  Plus there were polls that said a conviction might influence independent voters.  They don't care if it gets overturned, because that likely will not happen before November. 

I'm hearing the intermediate court of appeals in New York might be as partisan as this trial judge, but I did follow the Weinstein decision by their highest court.  It was a split decision, but they tossed his conviction because the judge was going to allow a bunch of women to testify and accuse him of misconduct, even though he wasn't charged with assaulting any of them.  Same thing happened in Trump's trial:  the judge was going to allow evidence of all of Trump's other cases, civil and criminal, if Trump testified.

But regardless of what happens with the appeal, the damage is done.

I think the damage was done to our justice system and the democrats.

I don't think anyone on the fence about trump was swayed by this.  If you're on the fence, you probably actually think about stuff.  If you think about stuff, you educate yourself. Anyone with a rational brain knows this was a farce.

[Dos Equis]

I think the damage was done to our justice system and the democrats.

I don't think anyone on the fence about trump was swayed by this.  If you're on the fence, you probably actually think about stuff.  If you think about stuff, you educate yourself. Anyone with a rational brain knows this was a farce.

I'm not convinced it damages Democrats.  Look at what they have done since 2015 with no consequences.  A documented, partisan campaign to smear Trump as a Russian Manchurian Candidate.
A couple of failed prosecutions from Russia-gate.  Some committee hearings with questions and speeches.  Congressional letters that get ignored.  Congressional subpoenas that get ignored.  Misuse of the legal system.  Partisan impeachments.  It helped them almost destroy Trump's presidency.  It helped them in 2020.  And might help them in 2024.  Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing how this has hurt them. 

I agree anyone with a rational brain can see through this stuff.  But Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, so there are a lot of otherwise smart, rational people who really don't care, so long as it gets rid of Trump.   

[Grape Ape]

I'm not convinced it damages Democrats.  Look at what they have done since 2015 with no consequences.  A documented, partisan campaign to smear Trump as a Russian Manchurian Candidate.
A couple of failed prosecutions from Russia-gate.  Some committee hearings with questions and speeches.  Congressional letters that get ignored.  Congressional subpoenas that get ignored.  Misuse of the legal system.  Partisan impeachments.  It helped them almost destroy Trump's presidency.  It helped them in 2020.  And might help them in 2024.  Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing how this has hurt them. 

I agree anyone with a rational brain can see through this stuff.  But Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, so there are a lot of otherwise smart, rational people who really don't care, so long as it gets rid of Trump.   

Yeah, don't necessarily disagree with any of this.

If you have not watched Patrick Bet-David's podcast where he has libertarian David Smith debate Chris Cuomo, you should.  It's the closest thing we get to a real beatdown, and some MINOR concessions from Cuomo.

But it does show the mentality they had and where the delusion comes from - here's any example (paraphrased):

Cuomo:  The experts I talked to all disagree with your assessments on Covid

Smith: The experts I talked to did.

Cuomo: Did you talk to people in the CDC and NIH like I did?

Smith: No, and that's exactly the fucking point.

Smith destroys him.  Even brings video receipts when Cuomo tried to lie.

[Dos Equis]

Yeah, don't necessarily disagree with any of this.

If you have not watched Patrick Bet-David's podcast where he has libertarian David Smith debate Chris Cuomo, you should.  It's the closest thing we get to a real beatdown, and some MINOR concessions from Cuomo.

But it does show the mentality they had and where the delusion comes from - here's any example (paraphrased):

Cuomo:  The experts I talked to all disagree with your assessments on Covid

Smith: The experts I talked to did.

Cuomo: Did you talk to people in the CDC and NIH like I did?

Smith: No, and that's exactly the fucking point.

Smith destroys him.  Even brings video receipts when Cuomo tried to lie.

I'll check out the podcast.  Thanks.

[deadz]

The smartest guy pedojoe knows…a convicted FELON. Bidens are TRASH!

[Soul Crusher]

I'll check out the podcast.  Thanks.

He came both barrels blasting against Cuomo - it was great. 

[B_B_C]

[deadz]

A vote for Pedojoe is a vote for the Biden Crime Family!

[loco]

[Primemuscle]

The smartest guy pedojoe knows…a convicted FELON. Bidens are TRASH!

Hunter Biden indicted one time and  convicted on three felony counts, while Donald Trump indicted four times. A jury of his peers convicted Trump on thirty-four felony counts. Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump are co-defendants, but the District of Attorney did not indict Ivanka Trump due to a statute of limitations. Trump has more than ten times the felony counts against him. In addition, Trump is guilty of sexual abuse and defamation of character in civil suits which could cost him millions of dollars. Who would you say is the more criminal of these two people, Hunter Biden, or Donald Trump? Who is the more intelligent, the one with all the fines or the other convicted with three felonies.

[deadz]

Hunter Biden indicted one time and  convicted on three felony counts, while Donald Trump indicted four times. A jury of his peers convicted Trump on thirty-four felony counts. Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump are co-defendants, but the District of Attorney did not indict Ivanka Trump due to a statute of limitations. Trump has more than ten times the felony counts against him. In addition, Trump is guilty of sexual abuse and defamation of character in civil suits which could cost him millions of dollars. Who would you say is the more criminal of these two people, Hunter Biden, or Donald Trump? Who is the more intelligent, the one with all the fines or the other convicted with three felonies.

All hearsay testimony no real proof or facts. Bunch of money hungry liars trying to tarnish Mr. Trumps stellar record. And you fell for it!

[Primemuscle]

All hearsay testimony no real proof or facts. Bunch of money hungry liars trying to tarnish Mr. Trumps stellar record. And you fell for it!

But then, you fall for Trump and his bullshit on a daily basis. So there is that.

[illuminati]

But then, you fall for Trump and his bullshit on a daily basis. So there is that.

Hunter is a crack head , a Pedophile,  a totally neglectful father & a Complete Khvnt & arsewipe of a man.
Just like 99% of Pedocrats.