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Grape Ape · « **Reply #7075 on:** October 10, 2024, 01:45:21 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 01:31:19 PM

You would think so based on the questions, but you never know till the decision comes out. I think this may up in the U.S. Supreme Court anyway.

Well, it sounded like at the end of it, the prosecutions lawyers were essentially trying to convince the court they shouldn't be sanctioned if it's determined that the case should have never been brought to court.

That's not good for them.

illuminati · « **Reply #7076 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:03:14 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 01:39:52 PM

The six-foot social distancing may or may not only have been based on science, but the six-foot rule was also based on common sense. When someone has an air-born virus the closer they are to other people, the more likely they are to spread it to them.

Get Real & get off the fence - They've admitted The 6ft Bollocks was pulled out of their
Arse / as was the use of face Nappies & the 10 O'clock nonsense .
Hell what about keeping family in bedrooms 😂🤣😂 FFS its an airborne virus just like
Flu. Do you do all these Stupid things in Flu season.

They had you're pants down - You were fooled & acted like one - Man up & just
Fucking admit it for Christs sake.

Pussy footing around & trying to act clever & justify it.
Enough of that stupidity.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #7077 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:17:13 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 01:30:16 PM

Trump's policies took effect pretty much immediately after they implemented. A POTUS enacts policies through signing legislation and executive orders. So like I said, nothing Obama signed or ordered contributed to Trump's booming economy. You cannot mention "Obama's policies" in a vacuum. You have to point to some specific legislation or executive action that he was responsible for that directly contributed to the economy.

Every abled bodied adult is owning, renting, or living with someone, so yes the housing market affects everyone. Not every owner or renter is trying to move, but the housing market dictates their options, what they will pay, taxes, etc.

We don't agree on why prices are inflated. It's pretty clear to me that the cause is inflation, not some backroom conspiracy by "corporations" to artificially increase prices.

Who has proposed a 20 percent tariff on everything across the board? And how is the Kamala Harris remedy to inflation (federal price controls) going to work?

I agree that owners looking to sell, or move are affected by the housing market. Renters are affected by the housing market for a couple of reasons. A shortage of rental units often causes rent increases. Income property purchase and construction costs affect rental rates. Mortgage interest rates affect anyone looking to finance or refinance a property. Sellers will get a higher price for their property and also pay a higher price if they buy another property.

Property tax assessments and rate increases vary by state. In Oregon the limit is based on a property's maximum assessed value (MAV) or its real market value RMV, whichever is the lesser. And it cannot increase by more than 3 percent each year unless there are significant changes to the property. How property taxes on new construction are determined is a little more complicated.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #7078 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:38:00 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 01:39:52 PM

The six-foot social distancing may or may not only have been based on science, but the six-foot rule was also based on common sense. When someone has an air-born virus the closer they are to other people, the more likely they are to spread it to them.

There is no question it was not based on science.

Fauci: ‘It Sort of Just Appeared, That Six Feet Is Going to Be the Distance’
By Jim Geraghty
June 3, 2024

Q: Do you recall when discussions regarding, kind of, the at-least-a-6-foot threshold began?

A: The six-foot in the school?

Q: Six-foot overall. I mean, 6-foot was applied at businesses —

A: Yeah.

Q: It was applied in schools, it was applied here. At least how the messaging was applied was that 6-foot distancing was the distance that needed to be —

A: You know, I don’t recall. It sort of just appeared. I don’t recall, like, a discussion of whether it should be five or six or whatever. It was just that six-foot is –

Q: Did you see any studies that supported six feet?

A: I was not aware of studies that — in fact, that would be a very difficult study to do.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/fauci-it-sort-of-just-appeared-that-six-feet-is-going-to-be-the-distance/

Grape Ape · « **Reply #7079 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:47:50 PM »

Of course it wasn't based on science.

And pfizer admitted they didn't test to see if it stops / limits transferring the virus.

So, makes you wonder what the gov't used to push mandates....

Primemuscle · « **Reply #7080 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:48:53 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 02:38:00 PM

There is no question it was not based on science.

Fauci: ‘It Sort of Just Appeared, That Six Feet Is Going to Be the Distance’
By Jim Geraghty
June 3, 2024

Q: Do you recall when discussions regarding, kind of, the at-least-a-6-foot threshold began?

A: The six-foot in the school?

Q: Six-foot overall. I mean, 6-foot was applied at businesses —

A: Yeah.

Q: It was applied in schools, it was applied here. At least how the messaging was applied was that 6-foot distancing was the distance that needed to be —

A: You know, I don’t recall. It sort of just appeared. I don’t recall, like, a discussion of whether it should be five or six or whatever. It was just that six-foot is –

Q: Did you see any studies that supported six feet?

A: I was not aware of studies that — in fact, that would be a very difficult study to do.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/fauci-it-sort-of-just-appeared-that-six-feet-is-going-to-be-the-distance/

The fact/science is that some distance, regardless of the exact number of feet, is better than no distance is in spreading an airborne virus from one person to another. Also, hand washing is better than not for all viruses.

For me trying to avoid handshaking was awkward because it was and is such common practice. I noticed that many folks have resumed doing this again, which is fine with me.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #7081 on:** October 10, 2024, 02:56:47 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 02:48:53 PM

The fact/science is that some distance, regardless of the exact number of feet, is better than no distance is in spreading an airborne virus from one person to another. Also, hand washing is better than not for all viruses.

For me trying to avoid handshaking was awkward because it was and is such common practice. I noticed that many folks have resumed doing this again, which is fine with me.

You are missing the point. I assumed, probably like most people, that six feet was based on some scientific study, etc. It wasn't, as Fauci admitted. In fact, true social distancing is more like 30 feet, but they knew they could never sell that to the public. They picked six feet because it was an easier sell. So no, this isn't a gray area. Same with masks.

A lot of people still use fist bumps. I don't really care. The more important thing is to wash your hands and not put your hands in your mouth or rub your eyes.

illuminati · « **Reply #7082 on:** October 10, 2024, 03:22:08 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 02:56:47 PM

You are missing the point. I assumed, probably like most people, that six feet was based on some scientific study, etc. It wasn't, as Fauci admitted. In fact, true social distancing is more like 30 feet, but they knew they could never sell that to the public. They picked six feet because it was an easier sell. So no, this isn't a gray area. Same with masks.

A lot of people still use fist bumps. I don't really care. The more important thing is to wash your hands and not put your hands in your mouth or rub your eyes.

He knows full well it was a frace - only he will never admit to the Fact he was
Had over / Conned / Fooled etc , He will just keep spewing out pathetic nonsense
To try & justify his stupidity at the time.

Some one should tell him when a hole stop digging.

We all get fooled at times - just Fucking admit it.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #7083 on:** October 10, 2024, 03:56:12 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 01:30:16 PM

Trump's policies took effect pretty much immediately after they implemented. A POTUS enacts policies through signing legislation and executive orders. So like I said, nothing Obama signed or ordered contributed to Trump's booming economy. You cannot mention "Obama's policies" in a vacuum. You have to point to some specific legislation or executive action that he was responsible for that directly contributed to the economy.

Every abled bodied adult is owning, renting, or living with someone, so yes the housing market affects everyone. Not every owner or renter is trying to move, but the housing market dictates their options, what they will pay, taxes, etc.

We don't agree on why prices are inflated. It's pretty clear to me that the cause is inflation, not some backroom conspiracy by "corporations" to artificially increase prices.

Who has proposed a 20 percent tariff on everything across the board? And how is the Kamala Harris remedy to inflation (federal price controls) going to work?

1- that is what we are agreeing on. Just not on the exact cause of it.
2- Trump stated he would impose a 20% tariff across the board on everything coming into the US.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #7084 on:** October 10, 2024, 03:58:35 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 02:17:13 PM

I agree that owners looking to sell, or move are affected by the housing market. Renters are affected by the housing market for a couple of reasons. A shortage of rental units often causes rent increases. Income property purchase and construction costs affect rental rates. Mortgage interest rates affect anyone looking to finance or refinance a property. Sellers will get a higher price for their property and also pay a higher price if they buy another property.

Property tax assessments and rate increases vary by state. In Oregon the limit is based on a property's maximum assessed value (MAV) or its real market value RMV, whichever is the lesser. And it cannot increase by more than 3 percent each year unless there are significant changes to the property. How property taxes on new construction are determined is a little more complicated.

This is what I am saying. Keep in mind that the vast majority of home owners are not looking to sell. They have no interest in moving again. And smart investors are sitting out for now until rates come down.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #7085 on:** October 10, 2024, 04:50:45 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 02:56:47 PM

You are missing the point. I assumed, probably like most people, that six feet was based on some scientific study, etc. It wasn't, as Fauci admitted. In fact, true social distancing is more like 30 feet, but they knew they could never sell that to the public. They picked six feet because it was an easier sell. So no, this isn't a gray area. Same with masks.

A lot of people still use fist bumps. I don't really care. The more important thing is to wash your hands and not put your hands in your mouth or rub your eyes.

Really? Thirty feet? I have never heard or read this. Where did you get this information? Is 30 ft. a science-based recommendation for social distancing?

illuminati · « **Reply #7086 on:** October 10, 2024, 05:04:27 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 04:50:45 PM

Really? Thirty feet? I have never heard or read this. Where did you get this information? Is 30 ft. a science-based recommendation for social distancing?

As science based as 6ft was - had they said 30ft you'd of believed them &
Stood 30ft apart. 🤣😂😂

Dos Equis · « **Reply #7087 on:** October 10, 2024, 05:12:17 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 10, 2024, 04:50:45 PM

Really? Thirty feet? I have never heard or read this. Where did you get this information? Is 30 ft. a science-based recommendation for social distancing?

I heard a discussion about it. Cannot remember if it was Fauci, but I think it was him. And yes the conclusion was that effective social distancing is about 30 feet.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #7088 on:** October 11, 2024, 04:04:59 PM »

Quote from: Dos Equis on October 10, 2024, 05:12:17 PM

I heard a discussion about it. Cannot remember if it was Fauci, but I think it was him. And yes the conclusion was that effective social distancing is about 30 feet.

Check out this NPR article on social distancing, including how 6' became the recommendation. https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2024/06/21/g-s1-5705/coronavirus-faw-if-youre-still-trying-to-stay-covid-safe-does-the-6-food-rule-matter. My conclusion from reading this is that nobody can say for sure what a safe distance is because there are many variables to consider. One thing seems clear though, some social distancing is better than none. Still, how does one have a person-to-person conversation when they are standing 6 or more feet away from each other… especially those folks like me who are hearing impaired.

The pharmacy I use still has a plexiglass barrier between the pharmacist/clerk and the customer. In addition to this the ventilation system blowing out air is directly overhead. Unless they scream at me, there was no way I could understand everything they said. Also, pharmacy folks tend to talk softly to help with customer privacy. This is really frustrating for me!

Grape Ape · « **Reply #7089 on:** October 11, 2024, 05:12:16 PM »

Yes, the plexiglass shield are an annoyance in that respect. I've even stepped to the side of it because they couldn't hear me, and I'm not going to yell.

AbrahamG · « **Reply #7090 on:** October 11, 2024, 05:27:46 PM »

If I'm full on erect I maintain a distance of 7.125".

Dos Equis · « **Reply #7091 on:** October 12, 2024, 12:01:39 AM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on October 11, 2024, 04:04:59 PM

Check out this NPR article on social distancing, including how 6' became the recommendation. https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2024/06/21/g-s1-5705/coronavirus-faw-if-youre-still-trying-to-stay-covid-safe-does-the-6-food-rule-matter. My conclusion from reading this is that nobody can say for sure what a safe distance is because there are many variables to consider. One thing seems clear though, some social distancing is better than none. Still, how does one have a person-to-person conversation when they are standing 6 or more feet away from each other… especially those folks like me who are hearing impaired.

The pharmacy I use still has a plexiglass barrier between the pharmacist/clerk and the customer. In addition to this the ventilation system blowing out air is directly overhead. Unless they scream at me, there was no way I could understand everything they said. Also, pharmacy folks tend to talk softly to help with customer privacy. This is really frustrating for me!

I've seen the article. Thanks. My conclusion after reading it, listening to Fauci, and reading many other sources is the six foot social distancing rule was not implemented based on any scientific study that six feet prevents the spread of Covid. That's actually a fact that Fauci admitted in the quote I provided earlier. So going back to your point about gray areas, this isn't one of them. And there are many other black and white issues involving Covid.

loco · « **Reply #7092 on:** October 12, 2024, 05:41:08 AM »

WTF's going on with the MSM now? Did Elon buy them out?

Top election data analyst says Trump’s odds of winning have suddenly surged - but can’t explain why
October 10, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-election-data-analyst-says-145803835.html

'Scared To Death': Democratic Strategist James Carville 'Very Concerned' About 2024 Election
October 10, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scared-death-democratic-strategist-james-163141460.html

Could Trump Win? Yes, and Some Dems Are Quietly Saying They Know Why
October 11, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-trump-win-yes-dems-171012133.html

Obama sends stark warning message to Democrats
October 11, 2024
"If the party doesn’t figure out a way to close the gender gap with former President Trump among men, and if it cannot convince men of color to come out in droves for Vice President Harris, Trump will win reelection to another four years in office."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-sends-stark-warning-message-180339731.html

Trump is in a better polling spot now than he was against Clinton or Biden
October 12, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-better-polling-spot-now-090539910.html

deadz · « **Reply #7093 on:** October 12, 2024, 08:23:51 AM »

Quote from: loco on October 12, 2024, 05:41:08 AM

WTF's going on with the MSM now? Did Elon buy them out?

Top election data analyst says Trump’s odds of winning have suddenly surged - but can’t explain why
October 10, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-election-data-analyst-says-145803835.html

'Scared To Death': Democratic Strategist James Carville 'Very Concerned' About 2024 Election
October 10, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scared-death-democratic-strategist-james-163141460.html

Could Trump Win? Yes, and Some Dems Are Quietly Saying They Know Why
October 11, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-trump-win-yes-dems-171012133.html

Obama sends stark warning message to Democrats
October 11, 2024
"If the party doesn’t figure out a way to close the gender gap with former President Trump among men, and if it cannot convince men of color to come out in droves for Vice President Harris, Trump will win reelection to another four years in office."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-sends-stark-warning-message-180339731.html

Trump is in a better polling spot now than he was against Clinton or Biden
October 12, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-better-polling-spot-now-090539910.html

MAGA!

loco · « **Reply #7094 on:** October 14, 2024, 10:22:30 AM »

Donalds, Hunt join Black Men for Trump in condemning Obama’s comments to Black men

Republican Reps. Byron Donalds (Florida) and Wesley Hunt (Texas) have joined the group Black Men for Trump in condemning former President Obama’s comments toward Black male voters.

A letter signed by the advisory board of Black Men for Trump and its members accuses Obama of being “insulting” and “demeaning” with the comments he made Thursday night.

“President Obama’s recent call for Black men to support Kamala Harris based solely on her skin color, rather than her policies, is deeply insulting,” the letter states.

“Black Americans are not a monolith, and we don’t owe our votes to any candidate just because they ‘look like us.’ It’s demeaning to suggest that we can’t evaluate a candidate’s track record—especially when Kamala Harris has done more harm than good to Black communities.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donalds-hunt-join-black-men-001734128.html

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #7095 on:** October 19, 2024, 08:32:23 AM »

He is so exhausted. NRA, NBC, CBS all are relieved to be spared his firehouse of lies at future dates.

More interviews cancelled. Low energy "smaller rallies down the street".

Diet Coke revealed as the official sponsor of Jan 6.

Begs Biden to take back his "rightful place" in the race.

Kissing up to Murdock now and crying over bad ads.

Claims Fox News wrote the jokes for his little dinner speech. Fox immediately denied this.

And that was all in one week.

chaos · « **Reply #7096 on:** October 19, 2024, 08:44:33 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on October 11, 2024, 05:12:16 PM

Yes, the plexiglass shield are an annoyance in that respect. I've even stepped to the side of it because they couldn't hear me, and I'm not going to yell.

Crazy how many places haven't removed them here in CA. I'm always talking around them or even over them in some cases.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #7097 on:** October 19, 2024, 01:49:20 PM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on October 19, 2024, 08:32:23 AM

He is so exhausted. NRA, NBC, CBS all are relieved to be spared his firehouse of lies at future dates.

More interviews cancelled. Low energy "smaller rallies down the street".

Diet Coke revealed as the official sponsor of Jan 6.

Begs Biden to take back his "rightful place" in the race.

Kissing up to Murdock now and crying over bad ads.

Claims Fox News wrote the jokes for his little dinner speech. Fox immediately denied this.

And that was all in one week.

You are literally a parrot of the left….

“The man Kamala said was too “exhausted” JUST NOW (midnight) got back off the plane in New York after doing:

• Fox & Friends at 8am
• Doing @dbongino’s show
• Flying to Michigan
• Meetings with multiple local groups
• Visiting Trump Force 47 HQ
• Holding a full rally in Detroit
• Flying back to New York

All of this after being up until the wee hours of the morning following his speech at the Al Smith dinner.

The man doesn’t sleep. He’s a freaking MACHINE.

And he’ll do it ALL again tomorrow in Pennsylvania”

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #7098 on:** October 19, 2024, 01:53:06 PM »

NEW: Donald Trump obliterates "Loser" Kamala Harris after she claimed he was "exhausted."

Trump then told the reporter his entire schedule before telling them he is exhilarated.

"She's a loser. She didn't even show up for the Catholics last night."

"All they are is sound bites. So today I was at Fox and Friends at seven in the morning. I then went to two other appearances."

"I then made about 15 phone calls. I've gone 48 days now without a rest, and I've got that loser who doesn't have the energy of a rabbit."

"Lemme tell you something. She should have been there last night with the Catholics. All they do is put out sound bites."

"I'm not even tired. I'm really exhilarated. The American people don't want her. She didn't pass her bar exam. She's not a smart person."

https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1847384263488090544?s=46

Primemuscle · « **Reply #7099 on:** October 19, 2024, 02:17:16 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on October 19, 2024, 01:49:20 PM

You are literally a parrot of the left….

“The man Kamala said was too “exhausted” JUST NOW (midnight) got back off the plane in New York after doing:

• Fox & Friends at 8am
• Doing @dbongino’s show
• Flying to Michigan
• Meetings with multiple local groups
• Visiting Trump Force 47 HQ
• Holding a full rally in Detroit
• Flying back to New York

All of this after being up until the wee hours of the morning following his speech at the Al Smith dinner.

The man doesn’t sleep. He’s a freaking MACHINE.

And he’ll do it ALL again tomorrow in Pennsylvania”

Supposedly at the end of his day, Trump flies back to NYC to sleep in his own bed. For us taxpayers, the good news is he must reimburse the government for his campaign travel expenses which he does out of campaign funds.

It is no wonder he is selling cheesy gold watches to help finance his campaign. The $100,000 Victory Tourbillon watch has a movement alleged to be partially built from Chinese components. There is also the much less expensive 'Fight, fight, fight' watch uses a movement by Japanese company Seiko. The companies that made the gold sneakers and the new Trump Watches were established by the same register agent, Andrew Pierce of Cloud Peak Law, Wyoming. Which watch did you buy?