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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4350 on: December 30, 2022, 03:16:37 PM »
I agree with what you posted Coach, this looks like it is pretty much a nothing burger. As best as I can tell from what I read, there is no bombshell revelations to be had. Trump is just another run-of-the-mil businessman who cheats on his income taxes. It is not clear why he expended so much time, money (for Attorney fees and court filings) and energy trying to avoid having his taxes released.

Yeah, there were years when he paid no income tax and a time or two when his total annual income tax owed was $750. which is a little annoying to those of us who routinely pay considerably more on much smaller incomes. It also suggests maybe he isn't quite as successful in business as he let on, but people brag about how successful they are especially those with huge egos like Trump.

While still up for debate, it turns out he may not have been as charitable as he let on, but that isn't a big deal either because most folks already knew this. I is possible he did not follow through on donating all the salary he received while in office.   

One good thing that comes out of this is, in the future folks holding public office will have no excuse for not revealing their tax returns, regardless of whether they are Republican, Democrat, Independent, conservative, or liberal.  So, what is good for the goose is good for the gander too. I believe if you want the public's trust you need to earn it. One way to do that is by being upfront about your finances.

Score one for Coach and for Trump.  :)

Tons of evidence that Trump donated his salary.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/amp/

In 2017 Amazon paid zero federal taxes against $178B in revenue.  Yes, corporate taxes are different from income taxes, but why pay any if the tax code allows for it?

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4351 on: December 30, 2022, 03:20:38 PM »
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4352 on: December 30, 2022, 05:03:24 PM »
Tons of evidence that Trump donated his salary.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/amp/

In 2017 Amazon paid zero federal taxes against $178B in revenue.  Yes, corporate taxes are different from income taxes, but why pay any if the tax code allows for it?

Good. I am glad there is evidence of this. However, according to the article you linked it seems this is not completely settled. Still in question, are the donations for the third and fourth quarters of 2020.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4353 on: December 30, 2022, 05:09:40 PM »
Tons of evidence that Trump donated his salary.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/amp/

In 2017 Amazon paid zero federal taxes against $178B in revenue.  Yes, corporate taxes are different from income taxes, but why pay any if the tax code allows for it?

Why indeed. Not having a corporation to hide behind means that many folks aren't as laissez faire about this as you seem to be. Somebody pays taxes and when it isn't the corporations or high rollers, guess who foots the bill? Oh well, let them eat cake! She said. To which they replied, off with her head.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4354 on: December 30, 2022, 05:12:33 PM »
When a poster has nothing but gay sex talk to resort to, you know they are aware they have lost the debate.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4355 on: December 30, 2022, 05:19:58 PM »
congratulations on your union w prime.   You two make such a great couple.  ;D

We do. Although I suspect it is something of a May - December relationship. Do you have any advice to offer us... as a couple?

Almost forgot… NO HOMO!  ;D

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4356 on: December 30, 2022, 05:48:42 PM »
congratulations on your union w prime.   You two make such a great couple.  ;D

Do you think he will love me as much as you love Obama?

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4357 on: December 30, 2022, 06:34:41 PM »
Good. I am glad there is evidence of this. However, according to the article you linked it seems this is not completely settled. Still in question, are the donations for the third and fourth quarters of 2020.

2 out of 16 quarters.  We'll see...

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4358 on: December 31, 2022, 06:12:56 PM »
I haven't seen any braindead liberals celebrating Trumps tax returns being made public. Nothing special there huh, Tom?
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4359 on: December 31, 2022, 07:09:14 PM »
2 out of 16 quarters.  We'll see...

How do you feel about his paying hundreds of thousands in taxes in other countries, such as China, while paying almost zero U.S. taxes. (In 2016, Trump told the Internal Revenue Service that he paid $1.2 million in foreign taxes, while he ended up paying only $750 in U.S. income taxes). He reported $38 million in overseas gross income in 2016 and $55 million in 2017, from countries including Azerbaijan, India, Indonesia, Panama, the Philippines, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates.

I am just an ordinary retired person submitting accurate information from my various 1099's to the IRS every year... accurate because there is no other choice... no possibility of cheating without sending up immediate red flags. In my case Turbo Tax requires correction of all discrepancies including noting the likelihood of being audited before allowing me to e-file. High rollers like Trump are way out of my stratosphere when it comes to earnings and income tax.
   

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4360 on: December 31, 2022, 07:25:52 PM »
How do you feel about his paying hundreds of thousands in taxes in other countries, such as China, while paying almost zero U.S. taxes. (In 2016, Trump told the Internal Revenue Service that he paid $1.2 million in foreign taxes, while he ended up paying only $750 in U.S. income taxes). He reported $38 million in overseas gross income in 2016 and $55 million in 2017, from countries including Azerbaijan, India, Indonesia, Panama, the Philippines, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates.

I am just an ordinary retired person submitting accurate information from my various 1099's to the IRS every year... accurate because there is no other choice... no possibility of cheating without sending up immediate red flags. In my case Turbo Tax requires correction of all discrepancies including noting the likelihood of being audited before allowing me to e-file. High rollers like Trump are way out of my stratosphere when it comes to earnings and income tax.
 

I'm not trying to come across as dismissive, but I don't see the problem.  Each nation has its own tax laws, and if you want to do business overseas, you have to play by the rules of other nations. 

ExxonMobil paid more in taxes than any US company - about $15 billion - but most of it went to other nations.  ExxonMobil was then able to deduct these foreign taxes on their US return. 

https://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1004/gallery.top_5_tax_bills/2.html

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4361 on: December 31, 2022, 07:57:35 PM »
I'm not trying to come across as dismissive, but I don't see the problem.  Each nation has its own tax laws, and if you want to do business overseas, you have to play by the rules of other nations. 

ExxonMobil paid more in taxes than any US company - about $15 billion - but most of it went to other nations.  ExxonMobil was then able to deduct these foreign taxes on their US return. 

https://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1004/gallery.top_5_tax_bills/2.html

You make a valid point which I had not considered since I don't do business or have income from other countries. I also don't have large bank accounts in foreign countries like Trump. The irony in this is that China is one of the countries where he had accounts in 2020 when he was running for re-election. Apparently, he was doing business in China while he was in office. He claimed Biden was doing business in China and yet Biden's taxes returns don't support this. 

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4362 on: January 01, 2023, 03:51:16 PM »
I haven't seen any braindead liberals celebrating Trumps tax returns being made public. Nothing special there huh, Tom?

They desperately wanted to find tax fraud.  When they found none, all they have left now is to repeat over and over again that Trump's tax returns undermine his image as a successful entrepreneur, the same thing they've been saying since Trump first decided to run for office.   ::)

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4363 on: January 01, 2023, 03:57:59 PM »
You make a valid point which I had not considered since I don't do business or have income from other countries. I also don't have large bank accounts in foreign countries like Trump. The irony in this is that China is one of the countries where he had accounts in 2020 when he was running for re-election. Apparently, he was doing business in China while he was in office. He claimed Biden was doing business in China and yet Biden's taxes returns don't support this.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4364 on: January 01, 2023, 04:04:04 PM »
Just be Truthful
You hate Donald with a Passion all because he was Going to outlaw Glory Holes & make them illegal 🚫

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4365 on: January 02, 2023, 01:37:38 AM »
They desperately wanted to find tax fraud.  When they found none, all they have left now is to repeat over and over again that Trump's tax returns undermine his image as a successful entrepreneur, the same thing they've been saying since Trump first decided to run for office.   ::)
The self ownership of the Left is amusing.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4366 on: January 02, 2023, 08:58:19 AM »
They desperately wanted to find tax fraud.  When they found none, all they have left now is to repeat over and over again that Trump's tax returns undermine his image as a successful entrepreneur, the same thing they've been saying since Trump first decided to run for office.   ::)
It was another example of the left wasting millions of taxpayers dollars trying to "get" Trump for something. All smoke and mirrors and their dumbass constituents keep falling for it.
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4367 on: January 02, 2023, 09:48:33 AM »
Far-left NYT Admits Trump’s Massive Success With Truth Social Is Crushing Opponents: ‘Megaphone To The Word’
DC Enquirer ^ | November 3, 2022 | Reed Cooper
Posted on 1/2/2023, 12:32:00 PM by SoConPubbie

The far-left New York Times, dubbed the “failing New York Times” by forty-fifth President Donald Trump, admitted in an article on Tuesday titled “Truth Social’s Influence Grows Despite Its Business Problems” that Trump’s social media platform, Truth Social, has become “vibrant” and has “managed to outplace its rivals.”

The Times article begins by describing Trump’s platform as a “a vibrant right-wing ecosystem increasingly brimming with activity.”

“Experts say the app itself has only grown more influential in conservative circles ahead of the midterm election. Much of that is owed to former President Donald J. Trump, one of the app’s founders and its star, who now uses Truth Social as his primary megaphone to the world,” the article reads.

“His posts on the site reach more than four million followers and regularly reverberate across mainstream news and social media sites,” the article adds.

Google recently allowed Truth Social on their Play Store for Android users, which makes up for 44 percent of smartphone users in the United States, and it’s a hit.

Truth Social instantly skyrocketed to the very top of the charts and has remained at the top of the charts as the most downloaded app in the Google Play store for four whole days.

“A significant milestone in our mission to restore free speech online. It was a pleasure to work with Google, and we’re glad they helped us to finally bring Truth Social to all Americans, regardless of what device they use,” CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group, Devin Nunes, told Just the News.

When Truth Social was first opened to the public on Apple’s app store in February, the app also boomed to the top of their charts, becoming their most popular social networking app.

“Did anyone happen to notice that Truth Social is Number One, ahead of TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, Amazon, and all others? Just asking!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post on Sunday.

What’s even more impressive is that thanks to Truth Social’s massive success, Forbes added Trump back onto their “Forbes 400” list of the 400 richest people in the United States.

According to Forbes, Trump Media and Technology Group is now Trump’s “single most valuable asset.”

Trump owns 80 percent of the company, which is 73 million shares at (then-price) $25 a share, worth over $1.8 billion-dollars.

“But make no mistake, Trump is extremely rich. In fact, the former president climbs back onto The Forbes 400 this year after dropping off 12 months ago, with his estimated net worth jumping from $2.5 billion to $3.2 billion, enough to qualify for No. 343 on the ranking of America’s richest people.” Forbes reported.

“It took us a while to get here. But we’re glad to be here. So we’re hopeful now that everyone who has an Android can either go to the Google Play Store or the Samsung Galaxy Store and download the app,” Nunes said.

“Our next feature to come out is direct messaging. So that you can be not only in a social network and get your news, but people that you follow, and people that follow you — you’ll be able to communicate with them. And it’s all part of us building out this separate ecosystem of giving the American people their voice,” Nunes revealed.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4368 on: January 03, 2023, 12:21:04 PM »
Far-left NYT Admits Trump’s Massive Success With Truth Social Is Crushing Opponents: ‘Megaphone To The Word’
DC Enquirer ^ | November 3, 2022 | Reed Cooper
Posted on 1/2/2023, 12:32:00 PM by SoConPubbie

The far-left New York Times, dubbed the “failing New York Times” by forty-fifth President Donald Trump, admitted in an article on Tuesday titled “Truth Social’s Influence Grows Despite Its Business Problems” that Trump’s social media platform, Truth Social, has become “vibrant” and has “managed to outplace its rivals.”

The Times article begins by describing Trump’s platform as a “a vibrant right-wing ecosystem increasingly brimming with activity.”



“Experts say the app itself has only grown more influential in conservative circles ahead of the midterm election. Much of that is owed to former President Donald J. Trump, one of the app’s founders and its star, who now uses Truth Social as his primary megaphone to the world,” the article reads.

“His posts on the site reach more than four million followers and regularly reverberate across mainstream news and social media sites,” the article adds.

Google recently allowed Truth Social on their Play Store for Android users, which makes up for 44 percent of smartphone users in the United States, and it’s a hit.

Truth Social instantly skyrocketed to the very top of the charts and has remained at the top of the charts as the most downloaded app in the Google Play store for four whole days.

“A significant milestone in our mission to restore free speech online. It was a pleasure to work with Google, and we’re glad they helped us to finally bring Truth Social to all Americans, regardless of what device they use,” CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group, Devin Nunes, told Just the News.

When Truth Social was first opened to the public on Apple’s app store in February, the app also boomed to the top of their charts, becoming their most popular social networking app.

“Did anyone happen to notice that Truth Social is Number One, ahead of TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, Amazon, and all others? Just asking!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post on Sunday.

What’s even more impressive is that thanks to Truth Social’s massive success, Forbes added Trump back onto their “Forbes 400” list of the 400 richest people in the United States.

According to Forbes, Trump Media and Technology Group is now Trump’s “single most valuable asset.”

Trump owns 80 percent of the company, which is 73 million shares at (then-price) $25 a share, worth over $1.8 billion-dollars.

“But make no mistake, Trump is extremely rich. In fact, the former president climbs back onto The Forbes 400 this year after dropping off 12 months ago, with his estimated net worth jumping from $2.5 billion to $3.2 billion, enough to qualify for No. 343 on the ranking of America’s richest people.” Forbes reported.

“It took us a while to get here. But we’re glad to be here. So we’re hopeful now that everyone who has an Android can either go to the Google Play Store or the Samsung Galaxy Store and download the app,” Nunes said.

“Our next feature to come out is direct messaging. So that you can be not only in a social network and get your news, but people that you follow, and people that follow you — you’ll be able to communicate with them. And it’s all part of us building out this separate ecosystem of giving the American people their voice,” Nunes revealed.

There nothing current about Truth Social's successes from the New York Times. Apparently there is nothing current from the DC Enquirer either.  I just checked. DC Enquirer's article referenced was published November 2, 2022. Do you have a link to something that is more up-to-date.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4369 on: January 06, 2023, 01:23:27 PM »
Mr McCarthy shows us why loyalty & fidelity to Mr trump is so important

The on going vote crisis is just a testament of how weak Trumpy has gotten over the last two years with his constant whining and lying.

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4370 on: January 06, 2023, 03:45:52 PM »
Lots of Trump obsession still left in this country and this thread. :D
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4371 on: January 06, 2023, 04:34:02 PM »
Lots of Trumpy defense still left in this country and on this thread.   :D

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4372 on: January 06, 2023, 05:37:15 PM »
I see the shoe fit *someone*, right Tom?
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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4373 on: January 07, 2023, 05:26:24 AM »

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Re: Trump = Winning
« Reply #4374 on: January 07, 2023, 06:41:16 AM »
I see the shoe fit *someone*, right Tom?

I see the shoe fit *someone*, right Fetterbro?