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perfect form vs maximum weights
« on: December 04, 2016, 01:58:49 PM »
sometimes im on the fence

in seated rows for example

i can either do it with perfect form, but slightly less weight

or

i can push it by using maximum weight, but feeling that the form isnt there, im starting to slightly use my legs on last reps etc

which one you reckon is the best strategy?

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 02:08:52 PM »

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2016, 02:11:03 PM »
sure as long as you post all your diet comments on the nutrition board  ::)

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2016, 02:14:52 PM »
sure as long as you post all your diet comments on the nutrition board  ::)
I respond, I dont initiate.

in answer to your question, keep your legs perfectly straight and use a weight that you can do 1 rep with, lift it in a jerky twisting movement and try and hit 10 reps.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2016, 02:17:13 PM »

Going with maximum weights makes the lifting helluva lot funnier.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 02:18:13 PM »
sometimes im on the fence

in seated rows for example

i can either do it with perfect form, but slightly less weight

or

i can push it by using maximum weight, but feeling that the form isnt there, im starting to slightly use my legs on last reps etc

which one you reckon is the best strategy?

I thought you were afraid to join the gym?

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 02:54:24 PM »
im leaning towards perfect form, still i get inpatient sometimes and want to lift more, knowing that i once did before my break.

it's also got a lot do with working with the muscle.

for pressing exercises for example, pressing with your pecs is completely different. most people dont.

same with back. people use their arms.

same with lateral raises, people should let it come from the elbows.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 02:56:02 PM »
little bit of both

just dont snap up your shit

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 02:57:02 PM »
Perfect form always

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2016, 03:09:05 PM »

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2016, 03:23:45 PM »
Form Follows Function!

Good Form Means Good Function = Positive Results.

Bad Form Means Bad Function = Negative Results.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2016, 03:24:42 PM »
You got to feel it working.  If not, it's too heavy.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2016, 03:25:47 PM »
TUT

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2016, 03:27:10 PM »
Lee priest making fun of branch warren form.


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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2016, 03:30:45 PM »
Lee priest making fun of branch warren form.


lee priest is a prick

would punch him right in the jaw

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2016, 03:36:11 PM »
lee priest used good form

other than that its hard to learn from him since he's a midget and that makes you wonder why the training of a midget would work for a non midget

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2016, 03:57:05 PM »
lee priest is a prick

would punch him right in the jaw

Yes that midget is annoying

Always says he's telling it like it is, a full of shit guy that's trying to stay relevant

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2016, 04:11:02 PM »
Yes that midget is annoying

Always says he's telling it like it is, a full of shit guy that's trying to stay relevant
besides the fact he is usually lying thru his teeth, what makes "telling it how it is" something admirable

i will tell lee how it is when it comes to manlets in the real world

when he gets upset i'll tell him i'm just telling you how it is lee!!

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2016, 04:26:15 PM »
lee priest is a prick

would punch him right in the jaw

yeah sure you would

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2016, 04:39:38 PM »
i only grew with heavy weights and bad form.


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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2016, 04:44:15 PM »
It's all about out-lifting all the other nobodies in the gym to show you're the king nobody.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2016, 06:43:17 PM »
Use a full range of motion. You are there to work the muscle and not to impress anyone with the weight used. The gym is full of short rep warriors using big weights.  Use the heaviest weight you can use with a full range of motion.  You should do the exercise in the hardest fashion and not the easiest. That means not loading the leg press with the weight of a  car while barely bending your knees. Grabbing the giant dumbbells and never going all the way down is just ego lifting. Don't do delusional ego lifting.  I see young guys doing rack deadlifts from a raised position and I know they could never pull that weight off the floor.

I see even casual lifters doing it. I have a 60 something man in my gym that only uses machines. He puts the pin on the bottom of the stack and does partials for everything thinking he is the strongest guy in the gym.  An example of this is the shoulder press. He lowers the seat to the bottom. Now the handles are in the half rep position.  He forces the weight up and proceeds to do half to quarter reps.  Just delusional.

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2016, 07:12:59 PM »
i only grew with heavy weights and bad form.



And now he's a cripple

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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2016, 07:36:04 PM »
Kai doing partial reps just how your suppose to do, all you no size fucks don't understand once your
Over 270 pounds partial reps are normal range of motion


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Re: perfect form vs maximum weights
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2016, 01:36:51 AM »
both!
body loves repetition and pattern so it can adapt and stagnate, the lazy bastard.
gotta throw it off, sets of perfect form using max weight for that form, TUT etc.

Mixed with sets or days of lesser form and heavier weight, more explosiveness to overload muscle and add new stress.
Still need to hit target muscle effectively though, but things like turnaround point of rep and force generated are really emphasized with heavier poundage so sacrificing a bit of form to achieve this isn't bad at all.

Poundstone had a good saying, everything can work but nothing can work forever. Need to add new stimulus and stress.