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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1500 on: February 06, 2020, 12:49:09 PM »
Does anyone know if Ruth Bader Ginsburg was at the SOTU Address?

I’m seriously cheering for the grim reaper to come for Ginsburg soon

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1501 on: February 06, 2020, 01:01:59 PM »
Does anyone know if Ruth Bader Ginsburg was at the SOTU Address?

I’m seriously cheering for the grim reaper to come for Ginsburg soon

I saw only Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1502 on: February 06, 2020, 02:52:13 PM »
I saw only Roberts, Kagan, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

thats because she has long since passed, nobody has seen her and they aren't reporting her as deceased imo

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1503 on: February 07, 2020, 04:29:11 AM »
Six Women of Color Bolt Warren Campaign
NewsMax ^ | 06 February 2020 | Cathy Burke
Posted on 2/7/2020, 7:21:42 AM by Freeport

Six women of color have left the Nevada campaign of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., ahead of the state's caucuses, complaining about a toxic environment, Politico reported.And the senator has apologized for what they say they experienced in her organization.

The staffers have left since November, with three saying they felt marginalized by the campaign, the news outlet reported.

"During the time I was employed with Nevada for Warren, there was definitely something wrong with the culture," Megan Lewis, a field organizer who joined the campaign in May and departed in December, told Politico.

"I filed a complaint with HR, but the follow-up I received left me feeling as though I needed to make myself smaller, or change who I was, to fit into the office culture."

Another field organizer, who did not want to be named, said she "felt like a problem — like I was there to literally bring color into the space, but not the knowledge and voice that comes with it."

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1504 on: February 07, 2020, 04:35:41 AM »
His campaign on the line, Joe Biden goes missing in New Hampshire
Washington Post via MSN ^ | 2/06/20 | Matt Viser, Cleve Wootson, Michael Scherer
Posted on 2/7/2020, 5:20:06 AM


NASHUA, N.H. - Outside the castle-themed Radisson Hotel where Joe Biden has been staying, his campaign bus was parked and ready for events.

But on Thursday, just five days before the crucial primary here, the candidate was nowhere to be found.

Biden spent Thursday gathered with his top advisers at his home in Wilmington, Del., seeking a reset and perhaps a last-ditch effort to save his candidacy, beginning with a debate Friday night. He held no public events.

Following dismal results in the Iowa caucuses that have rattled many in his orbit, his campaign is now simultaneously trying to lower expectations here - with some suggesting they would consider a finish as low as third place a victory - while also bracing for a second straight difficult Election Day.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1505 on: February 07, 2020, 07:09:03 AM »
Six Women of Color Bolt Warren Campaign
NewsMax ^ | 06 February 2020 | Cathy Burke
Posted on 2/7/2020, 7:21:42 AM by Freeport

Six women of color have left the Nevada campaign of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., ahead of the state's caucuses, complaining about a toxic environment, Politico reported.And the senator has apologized for what they say they experienced in her organization.

The staffers have left since November, with three saying they felt marginalized by the campaign, the news outlet reported.

"During the time I was employed with Nevada for Warren, there was definitely something wrong with the culture," Megan Lewis, a field organizer who joined the campaign in May and departed in December, told Politico.

"I filed a complaint with HR, but the follow-up I received left me feeling as though I needed to make myself smaller, or change who I was, to fit into the office culture."

Another field organizer, who did not want to be named, said she "felt like a problem — like I was there to literally bring color into the space, but not the knowledge and voice that comes with it."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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“Complaints, comments, advice, and grievances were met with an earnest shake of the head and progressive buzzwords, but not much else."


Ah the cancer is truly beginning to spread.

They are eating themselves.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1506 on: February 07, 2020, 07:21:47 AM »
So...Buttegieg wins Iowa

Bernie will win NH

Biden will win SC.....


So....is it going to be Bloomberg?
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1507 on: February 07, 2020, 07:25:17 AM »
So...Buttegieg wins Iowa

Bernie will win NH

Biden will win SC.....


So....is it going to be Bloomberg?

He's the third favorite right now behind Trump and Bernie to win it all according to the betting market.

Could be the last shot to slow down the Bernie freight train that is quickly gaining momentum.

Unless of course Hillary finds a way to steal the nomination at a divided convention  8)

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1508 on: February 07, 2020, 08:55:21 AM »
If Biden wins SC it's only because the fix is in. Who are his voters? Nobody knows.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1509 on: February 07, 2020, 10:43:05 AM »
If Biden wins SC it's only because the fix is in. Who are his voters? Nobody knows.

Black voters in SC won't go for communists or mayor pete
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1510 on: February 07, 2020, 11:12:42 AM »
No, Elizabeth Warren Isn't Being Erased...Her Campaign Is Effectively Over
Paste ^ | February 7, 2020 | Shane Ryan
Posted on 2/7/2020, 1:47:51 PM by nickcarraway

There’s an increasingly loud cry coming from certain corners of the media following the Iowa caucuses, and it reached its apotheosis Thursday morning with Joan Walsh’s piece in the Nation titled “The Erasure of Elizabeth Warren Continues.” (A few days earlier, she insisted in the same outlet that Warren had a movement that we “just haven’t seen” yet, so she’s clearly pushing this angle hard.) Here’s the crux of her newest argument:

Iowa conventional wisdom says there are only “three tickets out” of the caucuses, and yet coverage has curiously overlooked the woman who got one of them: Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. From the moment cable networks switched from her caucus night rally speech to Biden’s, Warren has been virtually erased..this despite the fact that Warren clearly beat the Democratic front-runner, Biden, and outperformed her numbers in the final Des Moines Register poll (spiked because of one complaint—one—from a Buttigieg supporter who said she wasn’t asked about him by a pollster), which had Warren in second at 18 percent; with 97 percent of the results in, she finished at 20 percent, in third, with Sanders and Buttigieg effectively tied (though Sanders on Thursday declared victory, and he may ultimately be right).

What Walsh and others want is for Warren to garner more coverage, but that want that coverage to be on their terms, and to conform to their narrative: Warren actually did really well in Iowa! She beat Biden!

The problem is, that story is plainly propaganda. First off, as you see from Walsh’s excerpt above, she only “out-performed” the spiked DMR poll by two points, which is a negligible increase unless it earned her a win. It did not. Warren finishing in third or fourth was exactly what was expected, and it’s exactly what she delivered. The fact that she defeated Biden might have mattered in an alternate universe where Biden performed strongly, but when the biggest story out of Iowa is “wow, Biden really flopped,” simply finishing one spot above him isn’t much of a thorn in one’s cap. In fact, it’s pretty meaningless without an attendant victory.

There are two lanes in this primary, the progressive lane and the centrist lane, and even pollsters like Nate Silver who think the idea of “lanes” is typically flawed have come to the conclusion that they’re demonstrably real in 2020. Coming out of Iowa, there was a winner for each lane: Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg. So if you’re keeping track at home, the three stories that mattered the most and therefore resonated the most—beyond the fact that the caucuses were an embarrassing and irredeemable clusterfuck on an organizational level—are, in no particular order:

—Pete Buttigieg did very well —Bernie Sanders is probably the frontrunner now —Joe Biden, previously the frontrunner, suffered a shocking and admitted “gut punch” and may be doomed

No dispassionate observer could see these three stories and still conclude that a fourth, “candidate who peaked in October, has faded since, and finished basically right where we thought she’d finish” deserves to share headline space.

Now, if we did want to throw more coverage Warren’s way, here’s what that would look like:

“Elizabeth Warren is fading, and her candidacy is all but dead.” That may sound harsh, but it’s honest. She’s polling behind Bernie Sanders in just about every primary state on the calendar, her national numbers continue to dip (she’s a distant third now, but in danger of slipping below Buttigieg and even Bloomberg), and her only “lead” in the entire country comes from a Massachusetts poll from October. In New Hampshire’s primary on Tuesday, her best case scenario appears to be third place.

Of course, more neutral outlets recognize this, as we see from recent headlines that fall into the Warren-centric category: —”After disappointing Iowa vote, Warren says she needs to be ‘careful’ with money,” Washington Post

—”Biden and Warren shift strategies after Iowa ‘gut punch,’” Washington Post

—”Warren tries to reassure New Hampshire voters after Iowa performance,” WBUR

A look at the demographics from Iowa makes the story look even worse for Warren: She lost to Bernie Sanders among women overall, women under the age of 44, young people in general, nonwhite voters (here, alarmingly for her campaign, she also lost to Buttigieg and Biden), nonwhite women, voters without a college degree, “very liberal” voters, “somewhat liberal” voters, “moderate” voters, and voters making less than $100,000 in household income at every level down to the poverty line.

Where did she win? You have to look hard, but the only two categories that favored her were college-educated women and urban college voters. What this says is what her supporters have feared from the beginning: She appeals to a very limited demographic that will vote Democrat no matter what in the general election, has failed to expand her base, and loses to the other progressive candidate by sometimes whopping totals everywhere it matters. And in the meantime, she’s hemorrhaging money.

An honest evaluation of Warren’s candidacy at this point shows that she’s drawing dead. There’s no better way to say it, and those like Joan Walsh who believe she deserves more media coverage should be careful what they wish for. Walsh may want to believe there’s a secret movement about to rise up and lift Warren to the nomination, but the hard truth is that she’ll be lucky to make it to Super Tuesday.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1511 on: February 08, 2020, 09:23:02 AM »
Biden is just physically unable to do this:


His campaign on the line, Joe Biden goes missing in New Hampshire

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/his-campaign-on-the-line-joe-biden-goes-missing-in-new-hampshire/ar-BBZJV2R



Biden spent Thursday gathered with his top advisers sleeping at his home in Wilmington, Del., seeking a reset and perhaps a last-ditch effort to save his candidacy, beginning with a debate Friday night. He held no public events.


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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1512 on: February 08, 2020, 09:32:17 AM »
Watched some of the debate last night.

Biden looked and sounded bad.

What a bunch of minor league players.  Strictly A-ball.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1513 on: February 08, 2020, 09:36:05 AM »
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1514 on: February 08, 2020, 10:53:13 AM »
Steyer is pitiful.

Hedge fund billionaire trying to be for the little man.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1515 on: February 08, 2020, 11:45:58 AM »
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.

They should all be permanently deported to Chicago. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1516 on: February 08, 2020, 12:23:59 PM »
Welcome back to reality Chris Matthews. The establishment dems are scared stiff of Bernie.


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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1517 on: February 08, 2020, 03:36:27 PM »
In the Democrat debate every candidate screamed about systemic racism, lower wages, less chance of an education, higher poverty, higher incarceration rates, higher welfare rates, more drug use, more violence, and higher unemployment in the black community.

And every single candidate blamed white people completely for this.

When will an honest candidate finally hold the black community at least partially responsible for this? Jesus Christ Tom Steyer tried to buy votes with the old reparations bullshit.


Not a joke, this is the last Republican Mayor of Chicago:



https://www.chipublib.org/mayor-william-hale-thompson-biography/

Mayor William Hale Thompson Biography
Mayor of Chicago, 1915-1923, 1927-1931
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1518 on: February 09, 2020, 06:38:48 AM »
Michael Bloomberg surges to 2nd place in betting markets




Americans may not be betting on Michael Bloomberg yet, but betting markets still think he's got a chance.

The former New York City mayor has totally leapfrogged former Vice President Joe Biden in an average of betting markets, RealClearPolitics' average shows. Bloomberg has a 19 percent chance of winning, per ElectionBettingOdds.com, while PredictIt's betting market gives Bloomberg a 23-cent "yes" price to Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) 43 cents.

Bloomberg's rise coincides with a major drop in Biden's betting chances, likely stemming from the former vice president's dismal performance in Monday's Iowa caucuses. Even former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has come close to surpassing Biden in RealClearPolitics' average, and he did so decisively on PredictIt. Still, ElectionBettingOdds.com has President Trump with the best chance of winning the whole election this fall, giving him a 59.5 percent chance to Sanders' 14.8 percent and Bloomberg's 10 percent.

The Biden drop was also good news for Sanders. He surpassed Biden on the betting markets in late January, and is now far and away the top candidate to win the Democratic nomination. Sanders, and according to RealClearPolitics' betting markets average, no top-ranking candidate has put that much space between themselves and second place since Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) bump in October of last year.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/894631/michael-bloomberg-surges-2nd-place-betting-markets

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1519 on: February 09, 2020, 08:18:31 AM »
Michael Bloomberg surges to 2nd place in betting markets




Americans may not be betting on Michael Bloomberg yet, but betting markets still think he's got a chance.

The former New York City mayor has totally leapfrogged former Vice President Joe Biden in an average of betting markets, RealClearPolitics' average shows. Bloomberg has a 19 percent chance of winning, per ElectionBettingOdds.com, while PredictIt's betting market gives Bloomberg a 23-cent "yes" price to Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) 43 cents.

Bloomberg's rise coincides with a major drop in Biden's betting chances, likely stemming from the former vice president's dismal performance in Monday's Iowa caucuses. Even former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg has come close to surpassing Biden in RealClearPolitics' average, and he did so decisively on PredictIt. Still, ElectionBettingOdds.com has President Trump with the best chance of winning the whole election this fall, giving him a 59.5 percent chance to Sanders' 14.8 percent and Bloomberg's 10 percent.

The Biden drop was also good news for Sanders. He surpassed Biden on the betting markets in late January, and is now far and away the top candidate to win the Democratic nomination. Sanders, and according to RealClearPolitics' betting markets average, no top-ranking candidate has put that much space between themselves and second place since Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) bump in October of last year.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/894631/michael-bloomberg-surges-2nd-place-betting-markets
Bullshit. There's all kinds of underhanded, shady shit going on in the democratic party HQ right now, they're in full blown panic mode.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1520 on: February 09, 2020, 08:33:44 AM »
Bullshit. There's all kinds of underhanded, shady shit going on in the democratic party HQ right now, they're in full blown panic mode.

If Bernie did get the nomination, do you think he would win California in the general?

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1521 on: February 09, 2020, 09:38:26 AM »
If Bernie did get the nomination, do you think he would win California in the general?
Unfortunately I see more Bernie stickers out here than any other candidate. Although I would say 80% of the people I talk to are Trump supporters, most seem hesitant to say it or show it publicly since the law allows them to be assaulted and have their property damaged. :-\
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1522 on: February 09, 2020, 11:06:29 AM »
As an independent, I have no idea how the supporters of the left can be confident in anything, let alone not admitting they've been a mess with the impeachment, their extreme side, and the caucus.

Carville's meltdown the other day should be telling.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1523 on: February 09, 2020, 01:14:58 PM »
Unfortunately I see more Bernie stickers out here than any other candidate. Although I would say 80% of the people I talk to are Trump supporters, most seem hesitant to say it or show it publicly since the law allows them to be assaulted and have their property damaged. :-\

I figured it was going to be Biden but I’m starting to have my doubts. He’s just a horrible candidate. With Warren also going down the toilet, looks like Bernie is in a strong position as he’s going to pick up a lot of her constituents.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #1524 on: February 09, 2020, 01:17:25 PM »
Bloomberg is going to be the one.