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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #725 on: September 18, 2019, 12:22:39 PM »
Your dream girl Hillary ran on what issues ?



HRC has a lifetime of political experience. This both helped a hindered her bid for President. But, why talk about her? She is not relevant as she bowed out this election cycle.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #726 on: September 18, 2019, 12:34:16 PM »
HRC has a lifetime of having people "suicided"


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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #727 on: September 18, 2019, 03:28:16 PM »
HRC has a lifetime of political experience.
So does Biden, Harris, etc and that's part of the problem. They've all been in politics forever and want to blame a guy that's only been in politics for 3 years. :D
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #728 on: September 18, 2019, 05:21:18 PM »
So does Biden, Harris, etc and that's part of the problem. They've all been in politics forever and want to blame a guy that's only been in politics for 3 years. :D

Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #729 on: September 18, 2019, 05:26:56 PM »
Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #730 on: September 18, 2019, 06:44:54 PM »
Poor Trump, he should have studied more before making the leap. Poor U.S. citizens, they have a President in training. Like with anything, you hire someone with no experience and you get someone who has no idea how to do the job they were hired to do. Sometimes you get lucky because the new hire is a quick study. Sometimes you don't because the new hire already thinks they know it all are refuses any expert advice.

There must be a happy middle ground somewhere between a career politician who time has passed and a total newbie who has no idea what they are doing and refuses any assistance.



Yet, he's figured it out in a couple years and is fending off the media, entire dem party and half the GOP...spineless RINOS.....yep, terrible things going on as he fulfills every campaign promise.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #731 on: September 18, 2019, 07:36:18 PM »
Although I must admit it will be entertaining to watch Howard defend this poor old man who is clearly losing his mind over the coming months. 

Howard still hasn’t figured out that Donald Trump is President BECAUSE of Hillary and Barry Sotero’s incompetence.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #732 on: September 18, 2019, 08:09:20 PM »
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.

Except we 1000% need term limits for CONGRESS....

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #733 on: September 19, 2019, 04:33:59 PM »
Poor Trump ??? He's proving that a lifetime of experience in politics isn't any better than coming in cold. I 100% support term limits, lifetime politicians are a drain on taxpayers and useless to society.

I also support term limits. We want politicians when they are at their peak best, just like employees in business. Generally speaking very long term employees become less productive and more complacent in their jobs. Politicians are no different. Although you may not be getting as much bang for you buck, I fail to see how lifetime politicians are anymore of a drain on taxpayers than newbies.

Article I, Section 6 states, “The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.” Three points are worth highlighting here.

First, the clause requires that pay be “ascertained by Law.” This means Congress must set its own pay. It also means that either the House or Senate could not change its salary via a simple resolution, which does not go to either the other chamber or the President for approval. Nor could the two chambers together adopt a concurrent resolution, which does not go to the President for a signature. A change in salary must be done via a bill or joint resolution, both of which are presented to the President for a signature. Thus, the President could veto a bill changing Members’ salaries if he thought it inappropriate. Congress’ ability to raise (or lower) its own salary is circumscribed by the checks and balances of the normal legislative process.

Second, the Framers used the word “shall.” This means pay for Members is obligatory, so the country could not have a “pro bono Congress.” In theory, a mere pittance for Members of Congress could satisfy this clause, but many of the Framers would disapprove of a paltry salary. Delegates to the Convention wanted to secure the services of the country’s most capable citizens. Some feared that the failure to compensate Members sufficiently would attract to office only the wealthiest and those “who were most willing to serve,” as James Madison recorded one delegate pointing out (Madison’s Notes, page 108).

The third noteworthy aspect of this clause is that the U.S. Treasury is to be the source of the funds for Member salaries. Passing over this clause without thinking much about it is easy to do, but it was actually one of the most controversial topics relating to congressional compensation at the Convention. It was seen as a way to ensure the strength of Congress. An earlier version of the clause left it to the states to pay their Members of Congress, but some delegates feared that this would make the Federal government too dependent on state governments. For instance, Edmund Randolph of Virginia argued that this would be the case. Additionally, as Nathaniel Gorham of Massachusetts pointed out, the states could cut salaries so low that the most capable Members would seek employment elsewhere (Madison’s Notes, page 171).


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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #735 on: September 20, 2019, 06:54:31 AM »
Beto has to be next to drop.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #736 on: September 20, 2019, 07:23:09 AM »
Good call GA. His funding is drying up.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/15/beto-orourke-fundraising-second-quarter-1416486

Ah - didn't know that part.

He's also been polling at 0% for a long time.  Or close to it.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #737 on: September 20, 2019, 07:43:07 AM »
Mayor “Howard” DeBlasio polling at 0.000001% has decided to end his bid to ruin the country and will return to ruining NYC

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #738 on: September 20, 2019, 10:26:17 AM »
"National Mandatory Service to Combat Climate Change"

Say that with a straight face.

And we on here who lean right in this current political climate are considered the crazy ones?

Marianne Williamson wants a national mandatory service for people ages 18-26 to combat climate change

At a presidential climate change forum on Thursday, author and Democratic presidential hopeful Marianne Williamson floated the idea of a national mandatory year of service for young adults to tackle climate change.


"I would like to ask your opinion, I think during the 'season of repair,' we should have a mandatory national service, one year, for people between 18 and 26 because we need you," Williamson said. "We need to fix this climate. We need to fix this country."

MSNBC's Ali Velshi asked the audience, which consisted mainly of students, to raise their hands if they liked the idea. "A few, alright."

Williamson smirked at the crowd's reaction.

"To save the country. It's not just the climate," she said.

The climate forum was hosted by MSNBC and Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service, giving college students the opportunity to ask candidates questions. This is not the first time Williamson has mentioned of national service for young people. Her campaign website includes an outline of a program that would "be a way that every American citizen spends one year of their youth in service to the repair of our nation."


She lists service projects including helping in small businesses, schools, hospitals, the military, the Peace Corps and work on sustainability and to "combat the climate crisis."

The paid service she details on her website, however, appears to be voluntary: Williamson's administration would start a program where young adults "can perform one year of National Service."

She said at the climate forum that Americans need to come together in a "World War II mass mobilization."

She later added, "During World War II, it wasn't Democrats vs. Republicans, left vs. right. We are all Americans. And we are going to mobilize."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2376414001

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #739 on: September 20, 2019, 11:40:04 AM »
Global Warming

"Climate Change"


WTF?

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #740 on: September 20, 2019, 07:20:37 PM »
Ah - didn't know that part.

He's also been polling at 0% for a long time.  Or close to it.
He said Texans wanted to give up their guns..... :D :D ;D ;D
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #741 on: September 20, 2019, 07:35:54 PM »
"Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren identifies as a capitalist, which makes sense, given her estimated $12 million fortune.

She and her husband, Bruce Mann, both longtime law professors, hold much of their wealth in retirement accounts. Their TIAA and CREF accounts—available to educators and nonprofit employees—are worth at least $4 million. They also own two homes: a $3 million Victorian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and an $800,000 condo in Washington, D.C."





WTF?????



How does someone working as a teacher and US Senator amass a fortune that some estimate is over 12 million dollars.

If I knew education and being a politician paid so well I would have run for office decades ago.



WTF??


25 Democrat candidates and they end up with the same old 4.

Social Bernie, Pocahontas, Biden and the other one.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #742 on: September 20, 2019, 08:46:52 PM »
"Democratic presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren identifies as a capitalist, which makes sense, given her estimated $12 million fortune.

She and her husband, Bruce Mann, both longtime law professors, hold much of their wealth in retirement accounts. Their TIAA and CREF accounts—available to educators and nonprofit employees—are worth at least $4 million. They also own 5 FIVE homes: a $3 million Victorian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and an $800,000 condo in Washington, D.C."
A LARGE WIGWAM & 2 TEEPEES ON VARIOUS RESERVATIONS  


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WTF?????



How does someone working as a teacher and US Senator amass a fortune that some estimate is over 12 million dollars.

If I knew education and being a politician paid so well I would have run for office decades ago.



WTF??


25 Democrat candidates and they end up with the same old 4.

Social Bernie, Pocahontas, Biden and the other one.

Fixed It
Just added the Properties They Forgot to Mention.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #743 on: September 21, 2019, 11:50:39 AM »

Fixed It
Just added the Properties They Forgot to Mention.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #744 on: September 21, 2019, 01:40:15 PM »
"National Mandatory Service to Combat Climate Change"

Say that with a straight face.

And we on here who lean right in this current political climate are considered the crazy ones?

Marianne Williamson wants a national mandatory service for people ages 18-26 to combat climate change

At a presidential climate change forum on Thursday, author and Democratic presidential hopeful Marianne Williamson floated the idea of a national mandatory year of service for young adults to tackle climate change.


"I would like to ask your opinion, I think during the 'season of repair,' we should have a mandatory national service, one year, for people between 18 and 26 because we need you," Williamson said. "We need to fix this climate. We need to fix this country."

MSNBC's Ali Velshi asked the audience, which consisted mainly of students, to raise their hands if they liked the idea. "A few, alright."

Williamson smirked at the crowd's reaction.

"To save the country. It's not just the climate," she said.

The climate forum was hosted by MSNBC and Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service, giving college students the opportunity to ask candidates questions. This is not the first time Williamson has mentioned of national service for young people. Her campaign website includes an outline of a program that would "be a way that every American citizen spends one year of their youth in service to the repair of our nation."


She lists service projects including helping in small businesses, schools, hospitals, the military, the Peace Corps and work on sustainability and to "combat the climate crisis."

The paid service she details on her website, however, appears to be voluntary: Williamson's administration would start a program where young adults "can perform one year of National Service."

She said at the climate forum that Americans need to come together in a "World War II mass mobilization."

She later added, "During World War II, it wasn't Democrats vs. Republicans, left vs. right. We are all Americans. And we are going to mobilize."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2376414001



I'm all for this.  ;D First let's try and take their phones and social media away for a day or two before you get them to give 8 YEARS of their lives away. Hahahahahahahahaha.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #745 on: September 22, 2019, 06:55:55 AM »
Lining up with what I said could possibly end up happening a few weeks ago: Warren takes Iowa, Bernie takes New Hampshire, and Biden takes South Carolina. Then the real dog fight begins.

 Elizabeth Warren Leads Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders for First Time in New Iowa Poll




Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) took the lead in a new Des Moines Register Iowa poll on Saturday night, marking the first time the Massachusetts senator led both former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in the first caucus state in the poll.

According to the new survey, Warren leads at 22 percent, with Biden following at 20 and Sanders at 11 percent. No other candidate reached double digits but South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg followed at 9 percent, with Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) at 6 percent to round out the top five. Additionally, the poll found that Warren was drawing the support of 32 percent of those who say that they caucused for Sanders in 2016 and that she narrowly led him among voters under age 35.


“It’s the first time we’ve had someone other than Joe Biden at the top of the leader board,”  J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co. which conducted the poll, said.

The poll comes as Sanders’ campaign has shaken up its staff in two early voting states.

The Independent from Vermont remains at or near the top of most primary polls and no other candidate has matched his fundraising and grassroots organization capacity. But even with his staying power, he has been increasingly eclipsed in the eyes of opponents by Warren as the main progressive force in the race.

Stuck in this position, Sanders’ campaign has shuffled staff in two early crucial primary states, where his operation replaced their New Hampshire state director and Iowa political director and a deputy Iowa field director. Some sympathetic to Sanders have noted that changing around staff at this juncture obviously demonstrates a sign of dissatisfaction with the senator’s status in the race. He continues to build and demonstrate a massive legion of support, hitting one million donors this week—a milestone no other candidate has reached yet.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-leads-joe-biden-and-bernie-sanders-for-first-time-in-new-iowa-poll

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #746 on: September 22, 2019, 08:13:36 AM »
Bernie is just there to keep the attention of the socialist crowd until the final ticket of Warren/Biden is announced. If Bernie falls off now, the hand out crowd starts looking around early and possibly move towards common sense Trump. Kind of funny though that the two richest, whitest democrats would be nominated to represent the poorest people. ;D
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #747 on: September 22, 2019, 08:18:15 AM »


I'm all for this.  ;D First let's try and take their phones and social media away for a day or two before you get them to give 8 YEARS of their lives away. Hahahahahahahahaha.

It’s one year of service, between the ages of 18 - 26

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #748 on: September 22, 2019, 09:30:44 PM »
Bernie is just there to keep the attention of the socialist crowd until the final ticket of Warren/Biden is announced. If Bernie falls off now, the hand out crowd starts looking around early and possibly move towards common sense Trump. Kind of funny though that the two richest, whitest democrats would be nominated to represent the poorest people. ;D

It will be Warren / Castro or something....doubtful Biden goes for another VP run.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #749 on: September 22, 2019, 10:55:36 PM »
It will be Warren / Castro or something....doubtful Biden goes for another VP run.

Gosh, I hadn't considered things beyond Warren getting the nomination. 

Castro as VP makes the most sense to me.  The first minority VP fits the Democrat's agenda perfectly. 
The meat-hating single guy is not relatable to the average American.

Democrats spent more than two years keeping Miguel Estrada on the sidelines, lest Bush nominate him to the
Federal court, and then possibly to the SCOTUS.  Recall that Obama's first nominee to the SCOTUS was Hispanic.

Good prediction.