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This piece of crap has no proof what so ever. Hopefully the KGB is watching his every move. He's fucking with the wrong country and take in fact that even our own military hates him.


Obama orders sanctions against Russia, expels operatives, in response to hacking
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/29/obama-orders-sanctions-against-russia-expels-operatives-in-response-to-hacking.html

Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2

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More legislating through executive orders. 

As soon as Trump starts doing the same thing you'll suddenly have no problem with it

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Amazing how you guys support a communist regime just because your man child leader does.  What a bunch of traitor fucking cucks!

Who's communist regime?
In case you talk about Russia, show your tax rates.

Flat 13 in RUS bro
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/personal-income-tax-rate


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Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2

They still haven't presented any proof, Straw. This 13 page report doesn't link anything to the Russian governemt, the disclaimer admits that and the ultimate conclusion from all of those unsourced articles was that they (Intel Agencies) didn't have any evidence that linked the Russian government to the DNC email fiasco. None. Ben Rhodes admitted it, Obama admitted it and Clapper admitted it.

These are extreme steps to be taking with no real proof. Assertions and allegations aren't proof.

It's just funny, after 8 years of Obama rolling over for Putin and Russia he chooses now to do something like this? Plenty of justified times to drop this hammer in the past.


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They still haven't presented any proof, Straw. This 13 page report doesn't link anything to the Russian governemt, the disclaimer admits that and the ultimate conclusion from all of those unsourced articles was that they (Intel Agencies) didn't have any evidence that linked the Russian government to the DNC email fiasco. None. Ben Rhodes admitted it, Obama admitted it and Clapper admitted it.

These are extreme steps to be taking with no real proof. Assertions and allegations aren't proof.

It's just funny, after 8 years of Obama rolling over for Putin and Russia he chooses now to do something like this? Plenty of justified times to drop this hammer in the past.



Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House

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Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House
Why not? Their track record is horrendous. The CIA and FBI can be trusted a whole 0%! Since when do they have credibility? The only option for them always should be to provide proof of their claims. Saying we have this info believe us does not fly in 2017. This is not 2001 anymore.

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Dindus and half dindus coming out in full force to support Obama and his bogus claims / actions.

To all the Dindus that don't get it yet:

Putin >>> Obama

This will always be the case. You need to invent an alternate Universe where this will ever be different.

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As soon as Trump starts doing the same thing you'll suddenly have no problem with it
You're projecting. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it!

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More legislating through executive orders. 

Unless Congress agrees with Trump's proposals, etc., my guess is that he'll legislating through executive orders or by veto.

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Funny, they said the same thing about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.  ::)

They who?

"President George W. Bush has got a very serious problem. Before asking Congress for a Joint Resolution authorizing the use of American military forces in Iraq, he made a number of unequivocal statements about the reason the United States needed to pursue the most radical actions any nation can undertake -- acts of war against another nation. Now it is clear that many of his statements appear to be false. In the past, Bush's White House has been very good at sweeping ugly issues like this under the carpet and out of sight. But it is not clear that they will be able to make the question of what happened to Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) go away -- unless, perhaps, they start another war." - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1506#sthash.dQSZmEPp.dpuf

The phrase weapons of mass destruction was originally coined by the London Times in 1937 in an article describing the bombing of the Basque town of Guernica, Spain ...

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They who?



The Powers that Be.

you won't see me kissing ass of Republicans or Dems; considering that both have the same handlers.
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Bravo Comrade

You really love Mother Russia

I'm sure the CIA and FBI are just making this shit up because they are loyal to Obama and don't actually care anything about their jobs or their reputation

http://wpo.st/wF-P2

Obama is doing purely on the notion that they think Russia hacked into the emails to sway our elections, he has zero proof of that, ZERO. However, even they did who gives a shit, it's wasn't their words in those emails. Just fucking accept GD fact that Killary lost the election on her own, her words, her actions, her own doing. She was just exposed. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

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The Powers that Be.

you won't see me kissing ass of Republicans or Dems; considering that both have the same handlers.

My guess is that you're about 80% right on this, but it could be more. Politicians are strange animals. Once they get elected to office (the club) they will do pretty much anything it takes to remain a member. Put another way, most politicians are all about getting elected and re-elected. Because a lot of the rest of us are too lazy to demand a change, career politicians are pretty successful and abundant. Anybody who desired to be a "soch" or maybe was one in high school relives that experience as an adult when they become a politician.

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Obama is doing purely on the notion that they think Russia hacked into the emails to sway our elections, he has zero proof of that, ZERO. However, even they did who gives a shit, it's wasn't their words in those emails. Just fucking accept GD fact that Killary lost the election on her own, her words, her actions, her own doing. She was just exposed. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

Are you so short sighted?

This has little to do with the outcome of the election. Why do you think the republicans in the senate voted the same way?

"Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people." - Obama

It has everything to do with National Security.

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Does the CIA and FBI disclose this kind of info to the public

I'm sure the Senate Intelligence Committee has seen the info along with the White House

Yes makes perfect sense, say something happened but present no evidence. And since this supposedly influenced the election, your damn right they should release proof to the public. Is it a national security issue? Well I would think that putting a Manchurian Candidate in the office of POTUS would be a hell of a lot more of a national security issue...........
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Yes makes perfect sense, say something happened but present no evidence. And since this supposedly influenced the election, your damn right they should release proof to the public. Is it a national security issue? Well I would think that putting a Manchurian Candidate in the office of POTUS would be a hell of a lot more of a national security issue...........


It appears you are going on the premise that the public is usually informed, which is just not in this case. Do I think they have the right to be....hell yes!

It's apparent that the uninformed on both sides of the political spectrum, who wish they had proof, believe it made a difference. The right because they want to make sure Trump stays the course and the left because they feel slighted and are let down. Why else would folks get so heated about it?

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It appears you are going on the premise that the public is usually informed, which is just not in this case. Do I think they have the right to be....hell yes!

It's apparent that the uninformed on both sides of the political spectrum, who wish they had proof, believe it made a difference. The right because they want to make sure Trump stays the course and the left because they feel slighted and are let down. Why else would folks get so heated about it?

Well I voted third party so my opinion of either of those assclowns is pretty low. My concern is .gov can float some unsubstantiated bullshit out there and just expect the American public to accept it as fact. No that is not good enough, and the current POTUS poking the bear a month before he leaves office is just fucking stupid.
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Well I voted third party so my opinion of either of those assclowns is pretty low. My concern is .gov can float some unsubstantiated bullshit out there and just expect the American public to accept it as fact. No that is not good enough, and the current POTUS poking the bear a month before he leaves office is just fucking stupid.

I suspect we will have more of the same with the new administration.

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Are you so short sighted?

This has little to do with the outcome of the election. Why do you think the republicans in the senate voted the same way?

"Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people." - Obama

It has everything to do with National Security.

This has nothing to do with National Security otherwise he would have taken some kind of action years ago and not 22 days before he gets evicted.

The left..including Obama has never accepted the results of the outcome of this election because he knew  putting Clinton in would have been an extension of his presidency but instead he/her got rejected because people didn't want a repeat of the last eight years. They've blamed everyone from Comey, to Huma Abadine and as one last ditch effort, the Russians. Please, their ego's can't accept this.

Just to add, his "legacy" is fucked as if he ever had one.

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Rino Ryan, Lindsey Graham, and McCain:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/paul-ryan-capitulates-welcomes-obamas-overdue-russia-retaliation/

If there ever were swamp dwellers, they'd be some of the landlords.

They want even stronger sanctions on Russia.  ???




Jesus, I am becoming a Russian sympathizer...  :-\
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Putin Stunner: "We Will Not Expel Anyone; We Refuse To Sink To Obama's Level"
ZeroHedge ^ | Dec 30, 201 | Tyler Durden
Posted on 12/30/2016, 8:18:19 AM by FR_addict

Vladimir the merciful?

Following this morning's reports that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov would recommend to Russian President Vladimir Putin a retaliation in kind, and expel 35 American diplomats, saying that “we cannot leave such acts unanswered. Reciprocity is part of diplomatic law" with Putin spokesman Peskov adding that "there is no doubt that Russia's adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well", it was ultimately up to Putin to decide how to respond to the US.

Which he did on Friday morning, when in a stunning reversal, the Russian leader took the high road, and in a Kremlin statement said that, contrary to expectations, Russia won’t expel any Americans in retaliation to US moves, in a brutal demonstration of just how irrelevant Obama's 11th hour decision is for US-Russian relations.

In the statement Putin said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline, however, was saved for what may be Russia's final slam of the debacle that is Obama's administration saying that "It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner" saying that Russia refuses "to sink to the level of this irresponsible "kitchen" diplomacy."

Putin ended the statement by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the children of US diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...







President Limp Dick made to look useless yet again. 

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I suspect we will have more of the same with the new administration.

Then the fucking American people need to get off their asses and demand the information be made available.
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Amazing how under this failed kenyan twink commie loser limp dick pos - Russia and all our previous enemies are stronger than ever. 

This pos cant go away soon enough.