Bye Bye to Obama's one "Signature" achievement - FAILBAMACARE going away

[Soul Crusher]

Trump and Senate Move Quickly to Repeal Affordable Care Act
NY Times ^ | Jan. 3, 2017 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, CHARLIE SAVAGE and JENNIFER STEINHAUER
Posted on 1/3/2017, 4:26:55 PM by Innovative

That didn’t take long.

Before the new members could even be sworn in, Senate Republicans revealed the parliamentary language that congressional Republicans will use to dismantle Mr. Obama’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, without fear of a filibuster by Democrats in the coming months.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

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Trump and Senate Move Quickly to Repeal Affordable Care Act
NY Times ^ | Jan. 3, 2017 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, CHARLIE SAVAGE and JENNIFER STEINHAUER
Posted on 1/3/2017, 4:26:55 PM by Innovative

That didn’t take long.

Before the new members could even be sworn in, Senate Republicans revealed the parliamentary language that congressional Republicans will use to dismantle Mr. Obama’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, without fear of a filibuster by Democrats in the coming months.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

Nice!

What an epic failure of a presidency.

[Soul Crusher]

Nice!

What an epic failure of a presidency.

He wasted 8 years on total horseshit

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/03/us/politics/donald-trump-transition-hacking.html?_r=0


LOL - Trump tweets on this issue. 

[Howard]

Trump and Senate Move Quickly to Repeal Affordable Care Act
NY Times ^ | Jan. 3, 2017 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, CHARLIE SAVAGE and JENNIFER STEINHAUER
Posted on 1/3/2017, 4:26:55 PM by Innovative

That didn’t take long.

Before the new members could even be sworn in, Senate Republicans revealed the parliamentary language that congressional Republicans will use to dismantle Mr. Obama’s signature domestic achievement, the Affordable Care Act, without fear of a filibuster by Democrats in the coming months.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

Watched 2 different cable news networks on this issue while doing cardio this morning.
It's gonna be tricky and here's why:

If they keep "no denial for pre-existing conditions", it's near impossible to dump the required  purchase mandate without adding billions to the cost. Somebody has to pay for insuring the higher risk pool.Plus, it's political suicide to dump 20 million people off the Insurance rolls.

[Soul Crusher]

Watched 2 different cable news networks on this issue while doing cardio this morning.
It's gonna be tricky and here's why:

If they keep "no denial for pre-existing conditions", it's near impossible to dump the required  purchase mandate without adding billions to the cost. Somebody has to pay for insuring the higher risk pool.Plus, it's political suicide to dump 20 million people off the Insurance rolls.

F em.   I'm paying well more than double since this disaster was passed.

[Soul Crusher]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pence-trump-will-sign-executive-orders-to-begin-repealing-obamacare-on-day-1-170144042.html


 

[Howard]

F em.   I'm paying well more than double since this disaster was passed.

I'm against most forms of social welfare, period. But that's not how it works in congress.
This has become like Medicare and once it's in, people will go crazy if they lose it now

To stop any one provision only requires 51 votes in the senate, which the GOP has.
BUT to add/replace will require 60 votes.

[youandme]

Watched 2 different cable news networks on this issue while doing cardio this morning.
It's gonna be tricky and here's why:

If they keep "no denial for pre-existing conditions", it's near impossible to dump the required  purchase mandate without adding billions to the cost. Somebody has to pay for insuring the higher risk pool.Plus, it's political suicide to dump 20 million people off the Insurance rolls.

It's going to be done in stages. They already noted that it would be a disaster to end healthcare to those who have it and need it. 

How this will work with no blueprint in place, I have no idea. 

[Straw Man]

It's going to be done in stages. They already noted that it would be a disaster to end healthcare to those who have it and need it.  

How this will work with no blueprint in place, I have no idea.

Same goes for congressional Republicans

They haven't got any idea how to improve/replace it

They would really just like to repeal it but that would be a political disaster so they'll go through this charade of repealing it and then delay  implementation

In my business we call that trying to build the plane while it's in the air

BTW - the monthly preimium on my ACA compliant insurance plan went up by 1.17 cents from last year.  A friend of mine on the same plan who is 4 years older than me saw his premium drop by ~ $50

[LurkerNoMore]

Obama - or any other president - had NOTHING to do with the rates of insurance going up for some.  That was nothing more than corporate greed.  Sort of like blaming/crediting the President for high/low gas prices.

[Soul Crusher]

Same goes for congressional Republicans

They haven't got any idea how to improve/replace it

They would really just like to repeal it but that would be a political disaster so they'll go through this charade of repealing it and then delay  implementation

In my business we call that trying to build the plane while it's in the air

BTW - the monthly preimium on my ACA complient insurance plan went up by 1.17 cents from last year.  A friend of mine on the same plan who is 4 years older than me saw his premium drop by ~ $50

congrats for being on welfare and getting subsidies - your welcome for my charity

[Soul Crusher]

Obama - or any other president - had NOTHING to do with the rates of insurance going up for some.  That was nothing more than corporate greed.  Sort of like blaming/crediting the President for high/low gas prices.

Except obama promised to lower it $2500 a year and you could keep your plan if you wanted to.   Both of those - exact opposite occurred.   

 

[Soul Crusher]

PajamaBoy gonna be crying tonight! 

[Straw Man]

congrats for being on welfare and getting subsidies - your welcome for my charity

I see you're getting even more stupid

Unlike you I've never been on welfare or subsidies for anything...ever.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/us/politics/the-parliamentary-trick-that-could-obliterate-obamacare.html


Another wave of liberal meltdowns coming. 

[Soul Crusher]

I see you're getting even more stupid

Unlike you I've never been on welfare or subsidies for anything...ever.

You are then the only person i have ever met to date whose premiuims and deductibles have not been jacked since they passed this mess

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[Straw Man]

You are then the only person i have ever met to date whose premiuims and deductibles have not been jacked since they passed this mess

I'm not on Obamacare per se.
I just said my plan is compliant (as are all plans) with the law

I'm on Kaiser group plan (through professional association) and my monthly premium 396.75 and last year it was 395.58

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/average-health-insurance-premiums-fell-after-obamacare-took-effect-study-says.html

I welcome Trump and the Republicans to improve on coverage and lower rates .

I think we'd all like that and I'm sure Trump and his "very good brain" know exactly how to do that

[Soul Crusher]

I'm not on Obamacare per se.
I just said my plan is compliant (as are all plans) with the law

I'm on Kaiser group plan (through professional association) and my monthly premium 396.75 and last year it was 395.58

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/average-health-insurance-premiums-fell-after-obamacare-took-effect-study-says.html

I welcome Trump and the Republicans to improve on coverage and lower rates .

I think we'd all like that and I'm sure Trump and his "very good brain" know exactly how to do that

Congrats to you - that is not my personal experience or those i know

[Soul Crusher]

Trump Prepares Executive Orders To Begin Obamacare Repeal On "Day One"
ZeroHedge ^ | January 4, 2017
Posted on 01/04/2017 9:03:22 AM PST by Zakeet

With the Senate already having launched the process of repealing Obamacare when, as reported yesterday, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Mike Enzi released a 2017 budget resolution setting up the process to partially repeal Obamacare early in Donald Trump’s administration, on Wednesday vice president-elect Mike Pence met with Republican congressional leaders to plot the strategy of how to repeal Obama's signature healthcare law.

Speaking to House republicans, Pence said Trump plans to take executive actions to start unwinding ObamaCare on day one: "Our first order of business will be to repeal and replace ObamaCare," Pence told reporters, adding the process would begin "day one."

"The speaker of the house used the word ‘stable,’ and we will do that," Pence said at a news conference after a private meeting Wednesday with House Republicans. There’s a "broad range of idea on how to do this," he said, without giving details of what a replacement might look like.

The VP-elect added that “it will be an orderly transition to something better...using executive authority to ensure it’s an orderly transition. We’re working now on a series of executive orders that will enable that orderly transition to take place even as Congress appropriately debates alternatives to and replacements for ObamaCare.”

[Snip]

Incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters Tuesday that Trump considers Inauguration Day as "Day One" of his presidency: "He is prepared and ready to go. As he's said before, he wants to enact real change on day one. That will mean within hours of being sworn in," Spicer said. "He put his team on notice that he expects nothing less than everyone getting right to work for the American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...

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Obama tells Democrats to ‘stay strong’ in protecting his signature health-care law
Washington Post ^ | Jan. 4, 2017 | Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein
Posted on 1/4/2017, 3:52:23 PM by Innovative

President Obama met behind closed doors Wednesday morning with congressional Democrats to map out a strategy to defend the Affordable Care Act and other health-care policies — the day that Republicans began debate on how to get rid of the far-reaching law.

As sharp political fault lines emerged — with Democrats saying they feel no obligation to devise a new health-care law and Republicans vowing to dismantle the existing one through legislation and executive actions — it could take six months or more to determine what sort of system might replace the ACA.

Obama’s rare visit to Capitol Hill, less than three weeks before Donald Trump assumes the presidency, is part of his administration’s final push to hold onto its achievements before handing over the reins of power in Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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DESPERATE!!!! 


Obama is probably finally realizing what a wasted failed and meaningless presidency he has squandered

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Obama tells Democrats to ‘stay strong’ in protecting his signature health-care law
Washington Post ^ | Jan. 4, 2017 | Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein
Posted on 1/4/2017, 3:52:23 PM by Innovative

President Obama met behind closed doors Wednesday morning with congressional Democrats to map out a strategy to defend the Affordable Care Act and other health-care policies — the day that Republicans began debate on how to get rid of the far-reaching law.

As sharp political fault lines emerged — with Democrats saying they feel no obligation to devise a new health-care law and Republicans vowing to dismantle the existing one through legislation and executive actions — it could take six months or more to determine what sort of system might replace the ACA.

Obama’s rare visit to Capitol Hill, less than three weeks before Donald Trump assumes the presidency, is part of his administration’s final push to hold onto its achievements before handing over the reins of power in Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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DESPERATE!!!! 


Obama is probably finally realizing what a wasted failed and meaningless presidency he has squandered

Come in and destroy Obama's legacy with a few pen strokes and all done before lunch on day 1.

Love it.

[Soul Crusher]

With one bill, Republicans fast track plan to undo Obama regs
Reuters ^ | Jan 4, 2017 | Lisa Lambert



The U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation on Wednesday giving Congress the power to kill dozens of recently enacted rules in one fell swoop, as Republicans charged ahead on their campaign to strip down federal regulations.

It was the second time the Republican-dominated chamber took up legislation blocking "midnight rules," those rolled out at the close of a president's term. But the previous bill, introduced in November, had faced a certain veto from President Barack Obama, a Democrat.

On its second day back in session, the House passed the bill on a vote of 238 to 184. The Senate is expected to soon consider companion legislation, which could face a harder time because it would need eight votes from Democrats.

Under a law known as the Congressional Review Act, Congress has the right to review regulations for a certain period of time after they are issued. That means any federal regulation approved since May could be voided by the Republican-led Congress once President-elect Donald Trump moves into the White House and can sign off on their disapproval.


It takes only a simple majority of both chambers to reverse a rule, giving Senate Democrats little power to block a vote with a filibuster.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

[Soul Crusher]

Filibuster This: Democrats Pay A Huge Price For Gutting The Senate's Supermajority Rule
Investors Business Daily ^ | Jan 04, 2017 4:42 PM ET | Editorial
Posted on 1/5/2017, 7:11:14 AM by expat_panama

Rules: You have to laugh at the Democrats' current plight. They have almost no leverage to block anyone Donald Trump decides to select for judgeships or cabinet posts. They can't stop Republicans from repealing most of ObamaCare. And they only have themselves to blame.

On CNN this week, Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer was lamenting the fact that Democrats wouldn't be able to use the filibuster to stop Trump's nominees.

There should, he said, be "60 votes because on such important positions there should be some degree of bipartisanship."

And who, exactly, is to blame for this? Schumer's predecessor in the Senate's leadership ranks, Harry Reid, who in 2013 eliminated the filibuster for presidential appointments, except to Supreme Court.

Reid did it for short-term political reasons — he wanted to let Obama quickly pack the lower courts with liberal judges...

...all boils down to is that Democrats are now suffering the consequences of their own shortsighted hubris. When they didn't need GOP support in Obama's first two years in office, they didn't lift a finger to get it. And when they did need GOP support, they changed the Senate rules so they no longer would.

Apparently it never occurred to Senate Democrats that they might someday lose control of that chamber, as well as the White House, leaving them largely unable to stop Republicans from undoing what they thought they'd achieved.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...