Examining the top contenders on Trump's Supreme Court list

[Erik C]

The thing about people who are really intelligent is they don't have to tell people they are really intelligent.  And they don't try and claim to be superior to anyone else.  That's an intelligence hallmark. 

Exactly! I was telling other people that they're not intelligent, including you.

Never said word one about my intelligence.

[Erik C]

Ok.  So the class of people subject to forced abortions include: "known violent criminal, low IQ, mentally ill, drug addict, drunk, prostitute, on welfare or any government hand out program, or you are some other low life pervert."

What is the IQ threshold? 

Answer: Triple digit.

What mental illnesses will be included? 

Answer: All of them.

Are all drugs included in the "drug addict" category?  For example, everything from prescription drugs to cocaine? 

Answer: Mind altering drugs legal or illegal.

Are all alcoholics included? 

Answer: Yes.

Which government agency will be responsible for enforcing these mandatory abortions? 

Answer: All of them should be required to report irresponsible types, for abortion, and sterilization. In a few decades the numbers of low lives, will decline, because they won't be reproducing, and tax money won't be wasted on their social services, futile attempts to educate the uneducable, nor costs of policing the dirt balls, their court costs, and jail time. In short, we would create a better future for real human beings. It can be done!

[Dos Equis]

Exactly! I was telling other people that they're not intelligent, including you.

Never said word one about my intelligence.

Yes, you claimed to be superior to entire classes of people. 

One of the great things about my life is I get to interact with a lot of really intelligent people.  That's partly why I know how highly intelligent people act and what they say (and don't say).

You don't impress me.  You have a long way to go. 

[Erik C]

Yes, you claimed to be superior to entire classes of people. 

One of the great things about my life is I get to interact with a lot of really intelligent people.  That's partly why I know how highly intelligent people act and what they say (and don't say).

You don't impress me.  You have a long way to go. 

OK, so your cognitive abilities are severely lacking. Get you tubes tied. Thank you.

[Dos Equis]

So anyone with an IQ of less 100 must have a forced abortion.  What about men with less than a 100 IQ?  Should there be forced sterilization?  

And how do you account for emotional intelligence?  There is no scale.  

If all mental illnesses are included, that implicates a sizable number of people who suffer from depression.  Who is going to be responsible for diagnosing all of these mental illnesses for the purposes of forced abortions?

Pain killers are mind altering drugs.  Would people who suffer from and ultimately become addicted to opiates have to report to these abortion concentration camps too?  

You realize that someone who drinks alcohol everyday can be an alcoholic?  That includes people who have a glass or two of wine or beer every day.  

All government agencies cannot be involved with determining IQ, diagnosing mental illness, and/or diagnosis substance abuse addiction.  Tell me which agency specifically would handle this?  

Also, I assume this would have to be a federal law, so it can apply to all 50 states.  How would that kind of law read?  

[Dos Equis]

OK, so your cognitive abilities are severely lacking. Get you tubes tied. Thank you.

That's not even funny.  If you're going to resort to insults, at least try and make them a little humorous. 

[Erik C]

That's not even funny.  If you're going to resort to insults, at least try and make them a little humorous. 

Very perceptive. No it's not funny.

[Erik C]

So anyone with an IQ of less 100 must have a forced abortion.  What about men with less than a 100 IQ?  Should there be forced sterilization?

Answer: Yes. 

And how do you account for emotional intelligence?  There is no scale.  

Answer: Emotional "inteligence" is an oxymoron.

If all mental illnesses are included, that implicates a sizable number of people who suffer from depression.  Who is going to be responsible for diagnosing all of these mental illnesses for the purposes of forced abortions?

Answer: Social services are doing it now. Forced abortions and sterilizations, would prevent that cost in their future generations.

Pain killers are mind altering drugs.  Would people who suffer from and ultimately become addicted to opiates have to report to these abortion concentration camps too?

Answer: Pain don't hurt! Tough it out.  And, No concentration camps, just out patient clinics. 

You realize that someone who drinks alcohol everyday can be an alcoholic?  That includes people who have a glass or two of wine or beer every day.  

Answer: No, it doesn't include social drinkers. A couple of glasses of wine or beer, has been proven to have some health benefits.

All government agencies cannot be involved with determining IQ, diagnosing mental illness, and/or diagnosis substance abuse addiction.  Tell me which agency specifically would handle this?

Answer: All agencies could report them to social services for proper medical treatment.

Also, I assume this would have to be a federal law, so it can apply to all 50 states.  How would that kind of law read?

Answer: In order to form a more perfect Union, we decree that dirt balls, should no longer be allowed reproduce, and continue to destroy society, by passing on their defective genetics. That they shall be sterilized, and given their government handouts, to live out their relatively worthless lives, without leaving behind anyone else, that society has to waste money on.

[Dos Equis]

Very perceptive. No it's not funny.

Neither perceptive nor funny.  Just dumb.  And another thing about highly intelligent people:  they don't quickly resort to insults. 

[Erik C]

Neither perceptive nor funny.  Just dumb.  And another thing about highly intelligent people:  they don't quickly resort to insults. 

You only prove that you know nothing about highly intelligent people, and are not one yourself.

[Dos Equis]

Ok.  So all men and women with an IQ of 100 should be sterilized, under penalty of prison.  Have you ever been to the Holocaust Museum in DC?  This is precisely the kind of thing Hilter was doing.  

Sounds like you don't know what emotional intelligence is.  It includes things like self-control, temperament, common sense, etc.  I don't think there is a scale to measure these things.  It's important, because someone can have a high IQ, but lack the ability to effectively lead or interact with people in social or work settings.  
 
The only "social services" who deal with diagnosing depression are psychologists and psychiatrists.  For example, a man or woman who went through a tough divorce might suffer from depression and need therapy.  Those people would be a part of your abortion concentration camps and forced sterilization.  

Telling people who suffer from chronic pain to "tough it out" is one of the most ignorant things you've said so far.  Do you know anyone who has gone through chemo and radiation treatment for cancer?  Are you in high school?  Sounds like it.  

I'm not talking about social drinkers.  Alcoholics include people who drink every day.  The eugenics police would have their hands full rounding up all of those people who have a drink in the privacy of their homes every day.  

All government agencies on the federal level include the IRS, INS, SBA, FTC, FAA, etc.  What the heck do those agencies have to do with determining IQ, diagnosing mental illness, and diagnosing substance abuse??  

Your proposed federal law reads:  "In order to form a more perfect Union, we decree that dirt balls, should no longer be allowed reproduce, and continue to destroy society, by passing on their defective genetics. That they shall be sterilized, and given their government handouts, to live out their relatively worthless lives, without leaving behind anyone else, that society has to waste money on."

You didn't include which federal agency is going to be responsible for rounding up these "dirt balls"?  What happens to those who don't comply?  Prison?  Execution?  

You're also going to have problems getting physicians to assist with forced sterilization.  

[Dos Equis]

You only prove that you know nothing about highly intelligent people, and are not one yourself.

Well you are correct:  Never called myself highly intelligent.  I'm just an average Joe.  But I do know highly intelligent people when I see them.  None of them talk like you. 

[Erik C]

Ok.  So all men and women with an IQ of 100 should be sterilized, under penalty of prison.  Have you ever been to the Holocaust Museum in DC?  This is precisely the kind of thing Hilter was doing.

Answer: Not under penalty of prison. No sterilization, then no government entitlements. You want your freebies, then the deal is, we don't want your worthless offspring to have to take care of. They would have freedom of choice. Go work for living, and pay the way for you and your offspring, with no government aid whatever, or get your tubes tied, and get your government handouts, but don't burden society with your garbage babies. Stop with the Hitler horseshit already.

Sounds like you don't know what emotional intelligence is.  It includes things like self-control, temperament, common sense, etc.  I don't think there is a scale to measure these things.  It's important, because someone can have a high IQ, but lack the ability to effectively lead or interact with people in social or work settings.

Answer: emotions are the antithesis  of self-control, temperament, commonsense, and whatever non-intellectual etcs, you are referring to. How many emotional people are great leaders?
 
The only "social services" who deal with diagnosing depression are psychologists and psychiatrists.  For example, a man or woman who went through a tough divorce might suffer from depression and need therapy.  Those people would be a part of your abortion concentration camps and forced sterilization.

Answer: Social services recommends medical and psychological help for people all the time. Again these are out patient procedures, not concentration camps, and it is voluntary. Only the people bumming off the taxpayers, need to make the choice, and it's a simple choice: make your own way in the world, or get your tubes tied, to be eligible to get your government handouts. Either/or, not both. 

Telling people who suffer from chronic pain to "tough it out" is one of the most ignorant things you've said so far.  Do you know anyone who has gone through chemo and radiation treatment for cancer?  Are you in high school?  Sounds like it.

Answer: I've studied self-hypnosis, and I can reduce pain to zero, with the power of my mind. Maybe only super intelligent people can do that?

I'm not talking about social drinkers.  Alcoholics include people who drink every day.  The eugenics police would have their hands full rounding up all of those people who have a drink in the privacy of their homes every day.

Answer: Someone drinking alcohol, and not becoming a social problem, or a ward of the state, is fine. 

All government agencies on the federal level include the IRS, INS, SBA, FTC, FAA, etc.  What the heck do those agencies have to do with determining IQ, diagnosing mental illness, and diagnosing substance abuse??

Answer: Nothing! It's just you obfuscating an idea that you have emotional problems dealing with intelligently.  

Your proposed federal law reads:  "In order to form a more perfect Union, we decree that dirt balls, should no longer be allowed reproduce, and continue to destroy society, by passing on their defective genetics. That they shall be sterilized, and given their government handouts, to live out their relatively worthless lives, without leaving behind anyone else, that society has to waste money on."

You didn't include which federal agency is going to be responsible for rounding up these "dirt balls"?  What happens to those who don't comply?  Prison?  Execution?  

Answer: As I've been saying over and over, but you continually ignore, they get cut off from all government funding and services, and have to fend for themselves.

You're also going to have problems getting physicians to assist with forced sterilization.  

Answer: No you're not. People choose to have their tubes tied all the time. Both males and females, in both cases to prevent having babies. It's not forced sterilization. It's their choice: tubes tied, or no government check. How don't you understand that? If you can't, then your not an average Joe, but an intellectually below average Joe. You demonize and name call something you disagree with, because you can't give one material argument against it, so your screech instead. Grow up! I giving you a solution to a major social problem, that you have no solution for. So, until you have one, STFU.

[Dos Equis]

You cannot keep up with your own asinine eugenics fantasy.  You didn't limit the "dirt balls" to people on public assistance.  You included anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics.  How are you going to force those people to be sterilized? 

And yes, this is precisely what Hitler did.  If you're ever in DC and want to educate yourself, go to the Holocaust Museum.  You'll see your ideas on full display. 

No, you clearly don't understand emotional intelligence.  It is, among other things, the ability to control your emotions.  Saying self-control, temperament, and common sense are the antithesis of emotions is pretty stupid.  Emotions include all of those things.  The point you are missing is someone can have a high IQ, but be unable to function in normal social settings.  So, your eugenics fantasy has a gaping hole, because lots of people with an IQ over 100 have problems with emotional intelligence. 

Wait.  Those people who suffer chronic pain, including those who go through cancer treatment "can reduce pain to zero" through self-hypnosis?  This is breaking news.  Why hasn't the medical community jumped all over this? 

So you are limiting your class of alcoholics from "all" to only those who become a social problem or "ward of the state."  What the heck does that even mean? lol.  How many alcoholics become a "ward of the state"? 

You specifically said "all" government agencies would be responsible for enforcing your eugenics fantasy, without realizing that most of them would have nothing to do with putting all of these "dirt balls" in your eugenics concentration camps.   

Again, your concentration camps will not be limited to people on public assistance.  Which agency will be responsible for rounding up anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics (except those who are not a social problem or "wards of the state")?   

Don't you understand your own stupid idea?  You're going to force people to get sterilized, because it isn't limited to people on government assistance.  So yes, you will have trouble getting physicians to perform forced sterilization. 

[Yamcha]

You cannot keep up with your own asinine eugenics fantasy.  You didn't limit the "dirt balls" to people on public assistance.  You included anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics.  How are you going to force those people to be sterilized? 

And yes, this is precisely what Hitler did.  If you're ever in DC and want to educate yourself, go to the Holocaust Museum.  You'll see your ideas on full display. 

No, you clearly don't understand emotional intelligence.  It is, among other things, the ability to control your emotions.  Saying self-control, temperament, and common sense are the antithesis of emotions is pretty stupid.  Emotions include all of those things.  The point you are missing is someone can have a high IQ, but be unable to function in normal social settings.  So, your eugenics fantasy has a gaping hole, because lots of people with an IQ over 100 have problems with emotional intelligence. 

Wait.  Those people who suffer chronic pain, including those who go through cancer treatment "can reduce pain to zero" through self-hypnosis?  This is breaking news.  Why hasn't the medical community jumped all over this? 

So you are limiting your class of alcoholics from "all" to only those who become a social problem or "ward of the state."  What the heck does that even mean? lol.  How many alcoholics become a "ward of the state"? 

You specifically said "all" government agencies would be responsible for enforcing your eugenics fantasy, without realizing that most of them would have nothing to do with putting all of these "dirt balls" in your eugenics concentration camps.   

Again, your concentration camps will not be limited to people on public assistance.  Which agency will be responsible for rounding up anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics (except those who are not a social problem or "wards of the state")?   

Don't you understand your own stupid idea?  You're going to force people to get sterilized, because it isn't limited to people on government assistance.  So yes, you will have trouble getting physicians to perform forced sterilization. 

[Erik C]

You cannot keep up with your own asinine eugenics fantasy.  You didn't limit the "dirt balls" to people on public assistance.  You included anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics.  How are you going to force those people to be sterilized?  

Answer: If I didn't make it clear to you in this thread, initially, that it was a program to rid society of its parasites, who are living off the taxpayers, then I certainly did inform you of that fact repeatedly, later in this thread. And I've spelled that out in earlier threads that I know you've seen. You don't like the idea, because it clashed with your hypocritical morality, so you tried to avoid dealing with the facts that I presented, and just tried to smear me, with comparisons to Hitler, concentration camps, and prisons. When I've never posted anything of the kind.

And yes, this is precisely what Hitler did.  If you're ever in DC and want to educate yourself, go to the Holocaust Museum.  You'll see your ideas on full display.

Answer: Again, It has nothing to do with Hitler or the Holocaust. The Holocaust is the dirtball parasites reproducing generation, after generation of their low lives offspring, attacking society and draining more and more public resources, to the care and feeding of those dirt balls.

No, you clearly don't understand emotional intelligence.  It is, among other things, the ability to control your emotions.  Saying self-control, temperament, and common sense are the antithesis of emotions is pretty stupid.  Emotions include all of those things.  The point you are missing is someone can have a high IQ, but be unable to function in normal social settings.  So, your eugenics fantasy has a gaping hole, because lots of people with an IQ over 100 have problems with emotional intelligence.  

Answer: Self-control, temperament, and common sense are only achieved by eliminating emotional involvement in your thought processes. You can only control your emotions, by being more intellectual. Again, the term "Emotional intelligence" is an oxymoron.

Wait.  Those people who suffer chronic pain, including those who go through cancer treatment "can reduce pain to zero" through self-hypnosis?  This is breaking news.  Why hasn't the medical community jumped all over this?

Answer: There is nothing new, nor mysterious, about it. The human mind can be trained to control pain. The medical "community" is all about making big profits selling drugs, not coming up with low cost ways of dealing with medical issues.

So you are limiting your class of alcoholics from "all" to only those who become a social problem or "ward of the state."  What the heck does that even mean? lol.  How many alcoholics become a "ward of the state"?

Answer: There are literally hundreds of thousands of alcoholics on disability, being paid by the taxpayers, to be drunks!

You specifically said "all" government agencies would be responsible for enforcing your eugenics fantasy, without realizing that most of them would have nothing to do with putting all of these "dirt balls" in your eugenics concentration camps.    

Answer: I never mentioned concentration camps. You made that up because your weak mind couldn't come up with one rational argument against my suggestions for improving society, by eliminating the parasites, who are leeching off of the taxpayers, once and for all.

Again, your concentration camps will not be limited to people on public assistance.  Which agency will be responsible for rounding up anyone with an IQ below 100, everyone suffering from mental illness (including things like depression), everyone who has a substance abuse problem, and all alcoholics (except those who are not a social problem or "wards of the state")?  

Answer: Stop lying! If they are legally paying their way through life, for themselves, and their offspring, then fine. I don't care what they do. When they stick the taxpayers with all their bills, then they are dirt balls, and need to have their tubes tied, so that their defective genetics doesn't get passed on to another generation of dirt balls, to burden society again, and again, and again.  

Don't you understand your own stupid idea?  You're going to force people to get sterilized, because it isn't limited to people on government assistance.  So yes, you will have trouble getting physicians to perform forced sterilization.

Answer: Again, stop lying. Don't put words in my mouth. It's voluntary, Take responsibility for your life, and those of your offspring, and get nothing from the taxpayers, or get your tubes tied, and get your government handouts. Their choice.

[Dos Equis]

 

[Dos Equis]

Lying?  Listen you little turd, here is exactly what you said:

It will be based on "content of one's character," as MLK said. If you are a known violent criminal, low IQ, mentally ill, drug addict, drunk, prostitute, on welfare or any government hand out program, or you are some other low life pervert, then mandatory abortion, and sterilization, as your "children" would only be some form of subhuman pollution, that would only make the world worse, as you did.

Note that you mentioned people "on welfare or any other government hand out program" as only one category.  So no, your own stupid eugenics fantasy is not limited to people on welfare. 

If you're not able to visit the Holocaust Museum, then when your high school semester is over I recommend either going to the library or just using Google to read about Hitler's eugenics program.  It included the extermination of people who were below a certain IQ, didn't have the right facial features, physically disabled, were gay, etc.  Your eugenics fantasy comes directly from Hitler's playbook. 

Wrong again about emotional intelligence.  Stop talking out of your rear end.  It's impossible to eliminate emotional involvement in your thought process, unless you're a sociopath.  I've recommended this book on the board several times, but Daniel Goleman's "Emotional Intelligence:  Why it can matter more than IQ" is a great book.  I doubt you will read it, but you could learn a lot, since you don't know squat about emotional intelligence (or IQ for that matter). 

I see.  The medical community is hiding this blockbuster news that self hypnosis can eliminate chronic pain.  Someone with Rheumatoid arthritis just needs to be hypnotized and their pain will be gone.  Same for cancer patients.  This is amazing!  And the rest of society is unaware of this groundbreaking method too.  Sounds like a conspiracy theory.  Wait.  Are you a 9/11 Troofer? 

I'd like to read about this hundreds of thousands of alcoholics "on disability."  Can you give me a link?  And be sure to give me a link to those who are on the government dime, and not those who have disability insurance through their employers. 

[Erik C]

Lying?  Listen you little turd, here is exactly what you said:


Note that you mentioned people "on welfare or any other government hand out program" as only one category.  So no, your own stupid eugenics fantasy is not limited to people on welfare. 

Answer: I did explain it to you. Your reading comprehension is small. Any yes I want criminals sterilized too, as their offspring are much more likely to be in their turn, criminals too.

If you're not able to visit the Holocaust Museum, then when your high school semester is over I recommend either going to the library or just using Google to read about Hitler's eugenics program.  It included the extermination of people who were below a certain IQ, didn't have the right facial features, physically disabled, were gay, etc.  Your eugenics fantasy comes directly from Hitler's playbook. 

Answer: Keep lying, if it makes you feel better, but it won't make it true.

Wrong again about emotional intelligence.  Stop talking out of your rear end.  It's impossible to eliminate emotional involvement in your thought process, unless you're a sociopath.  I've recommended this book on the board several times, but Daniel Goleman's "Emotional Intelligence:  Why it can matter more than IQ" is a great book.  I doubt you will read it, but you could learn a lot, since you don't know squat about emotional intelligence (or IQ for that matter). 

Answer: Read that book. Crock of shit.

I see.  The medical community is hiding this blockbuster news that self hypnosis can eliminate chronic pain.  Someone with Rheumatoid arthritis just needs to be hypnotized and their pain will be gone.  Same for cancer patients.  This is amazing!  And the rest of society is unaware of this groundbreaking method too.  Sounds like a conspiracy theory.  Wait.  Are you a 9/11 Troofer? 

Answer: Again, hypnotism can control pain, even chronic pain. The old guy that taught me hypnotism, had abdominal surgery without anesthesia. It been known for
at least a hundred years. It doesn't surprise me that it is one of the many things that you are unaware of. And I debunk 9/11 truthers.

I'd like to read about this hundreds of thousands of alcoholics "on disability."  Can you give me a link?  And be sure to give me a link to those who are on the government dime, and not those who have disability insurance through their employers.

Answer: Google is your friend. 

[Dos Equis]

So in the face of your own words, you continue to maintain that your comments are limited to people on government assistance?  Here are your own words again:

It will be based on "content of one's character," as MLK said. If you are a known violent criminal, low IQ, mentally ill, drug addict, drunk, prostitute, on welfare or any government hand out program, or you are some other low life pervert, then mandatory abortion, and sterilization, as your "children" would only be some form of subhuman pollution, that would only make the world worse, as you did.

You don't believe your lying eyes?  lol . . . .

Nothing untrue about the fact your eugenics fantasy is on full display at the Holocaust Museum. 

You read Emotional Intelligence?  Then how the heck do you not even understand what the concept is?  Definitely calling BS on that one.   

Yes, I am unaware of this incredible hypnosis discovery.  Someone who suffers a serious injury can just be hypnotized and their pain is gone.  I am stoked to hear this amazing news.  I need to be educated.  Along with the entire medical community.  Scientists.  Academics.  Pretty much the entire country. . . . .

So no link regarding these hundreds of thousands of alcoholics "on disability" and specifically on the taxpayers' dime?  Is that because you just made it up?   

[Erik C]

So in the face of your own words, you continue to maintain that your comments are limited to people on government assistance?  Here are your own words again:
You don't believe your lying eyes?  lol . . . .

Answer: I clarified what I said for you in my later comments on this thread.

Nothing untrue about the fact your eugenics fantasy is on full display at the Holocaust Museum.

Answer: Totally untrue about what I said.  

You read Emotional Intelligence?  Then how the heck do you not even understand what the concept is?  Definitely calling BS on that one.  

Answer: That book was a best seller. Someone gave me a copy, said I needed to read it. The concept is: write a book that makes emotional twits feel good about their mental inferiority, and you'll make a lot of money as an author. So obviously, either you never read the book, or didn't realize what it was really about.

Yes, I am unaware of this incredible hypnosis discovery.  Someone who suffers a serious injury can just be hypnotized and their pain is gone.  I am stoked to hear this amazing news.  I need to be educated.  Along with the entire medical community.  Scientists.  Academics.  Pretty much the entire country. . . . .

Answer: Then you can google that too, along with the alcoholics on disability, if you don't believe me.  

So no link regarding these hundreds of thousands of alcoholics "on disability" and specifically on the taxpayers' dime?  Is that because you just made it up?  

[Dos Equis]

BS.  I have the book on my shelf.  You don't lie very well.  At least Google the book so you can summarize it a little more accurately and tell a more convincing lie. 

In any event, I think my work here is done.   

[Erik C]

BS.  I have the book on my shelf.  You don't lie very well.  At least Google the book so you can summarize it a little more accurately and tell a more convincing lie. 

Answer: So you really didn't read it.

In any event, I think my work here is done.   

Answer: You didn't work here.

[Yamcha]

Pro-Life Pepe



Let's just drastically cut the amount of government funds given out to support those who CHOOSE not to work, not to those who truly can't.

[Yamcha]