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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2017, 12:29:34 PM »
It seems that way to you, because you live in your pretend world, too afraid to venture into the real world.
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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2017, 12:34:30 PM »
I have played with some VR stuff. PS4, Oculus, HTV Vive. I'm not super into most of it myself.

We are doing a lot of interesting things internally that I can't really talk about that are related to VR and other stuff, but I'm more of the mindset that until I can feel like I'm in a holodeck ala Star Trek I won't really want to deal with it.

It's good to move the technology forward though and that doesn't happen over night.

I just wonder if it doesn't end up similar to the whole "3D" thing. 3D was a big thing a few years ago and it really didn't go anywhere.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2017, 01:32:48 PM »
I have played with some VR stuff. PS4, Oculus, HTV Vive. I'm not super into most of it myself.

We are doing a lot of interesting things internally that I can't really talk about that are related to VR and other stuff, but I'm more of the mindset that until I can feel like I'm in a holodeck ala Star Trek I won't really want to deal with it.

It's good to move the technology forward though and that doesn't happen over night.

I just wonder if it doesn't end up similar to the whole "3D" thing. 3D was a big thing a few years ago and it really didn't go anywhere.

Yeah, we had a thing here in Sweden in 1983 called TV-Piraterna. 3D was a big thing back then.

We all sat with 3D-glasses and watched this 3D Pirate-TV

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2017, 02:21:47 PM »
The first few games were short.  I liked Rush of Blood and the Batman game but RE7 is insane and easily the best VR game yet since they have numerous comfort settings you can choose.  Also heard about the Spiderman VR game coming out soon as well.  it's only going to get better.
Went and got it earlier, RE7 that is, fucking Wow. I've had my hand sawn off already, I don't know if that's meant to happen but some girl with a chainsaw got me

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 03:18:09 PM »
Check out Microsoft's HOLOLENS (Mixed Reality). At $3,000 to $5,000 per .. to appears that it will be more for business use.

Look for some videos on that site or on Youtube if you want to see something really fascinating.

http://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/order-now

GO TO THE FOLLOWING LINK TO SEE A HOLOLENS GAME DEMO .....

https://www.cnet.com/videos/microsoft-demos-wearable-holograms-on-hololens/

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2017, 03:51:36 PM »
So how immersive is it exactly is what I'm wondering? Has the technology advanced far enough so as to get you lost in space so to speak?

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2017, 03:55:17 PM »
As with video games, VR is for people who can't deal with Literal Reality.

this is what people said back in the 90's if you were using a computer

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2017, 03:59:19 PM »
So how immersive is it exactly is what I'm wondering? Has the technology advanced far enough so as to get you lost in space so to speak?
I can only speak for the ps4 vr and the for first generation commercial vr its amazing for the low enough price point. Resident Evil 7 should be experienced whether you like games or not

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2017, 11:14:22 PM »
Is it anything like a VCR ?    :D

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2017, 01:22:32 AM »
Is it anything like a VCR ?    :D

you use VCR's and cassette tapes in resident evil 7

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2017, 01:36:53 AM »
If you want a space like atmosphere you can already get that in a bunch of VR stuff.  Not based on a real camera, of course - but you can very easily be standing in the middle of space with galaxy and nebulae all around you and yes, it is fucking excellent and works pretty well with music.  Things like virtual desktop give you that.  If you want something even crazier, you can do the same (stand in space) whilst drawing in google tilt brush.  There is an apollo experience that I've bought but not played, too.  

That is one application that VR is already essentially perfect for.

Also note that 360 degree video does not have depth, which is 95% of why VR is amazing.  Just having shit come at you is truly bizarre.

Now, moving on, say you want to play VR version of regular game.. for instance Skyrim - whoa partner.. the problem of movement rears its ugly head - and you should be educated about VR movement before you buy into VR because we are in the infancy of the truly usable VR.  I mean, it isn't a joke any more - it really is fantastic.  With caveats.

The major caveat is that a lot of people (probably the majority, I'd say) struggle with the intensity of movement in VR.  Just press a controller forward a little and you'll feel one of the most bizarre feelings you will ever encounter.  A feeling of instant, utter unease.  Your brain didn't feel any motion, yet the eyes say you moved.  What happens?  You get sick.  The unease turns to straight up sickness and you stop.  Your brain forces you towards sickness and eventual vomiting (if you persist super long) because it believes it has been poisoned (due to the disparity in senses).

...So most VR games centre around either you being the centre of the game (ie, in a wave shooter - which is like 70% of all software coming out) or you use a warp system (ie, you click and it shows a warp marker, which you move around to your target position and then you move).  Very few VR games ask you to move without a warp because those games don't make any money because the first comments are always MAKES ME SICK and it goes downhill from there.

Very few people play racing games in VR.  

That rubs out a fair bit of what people want from VR - the idea that they will be in world of warcraft or whatever.. it's very cute, but the movement issue is significant.

Buy a HTC Vive if you're going to buy something.  It is much much better than the alternatives.  When you actually move, whilst moving in VR, you never suffer any issues with sickness.  



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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2017, 02:20:19 AM »
Just to be clear, hololens has a small field of vision.  It is NOT close to consumer ready. 

Augmented reality, done well is a long, long time away.

Much longer than virtual reality.

So how immersive is it exactly is what I'm wondering? Has the technology advanced far enough so as to get you lost in space so to speak?

The technology is advanced enough - the software is something that is a hit and miss and rarely engages you for hours on end.  That generally works out okay because you're not going to spend hours in VR, generally.  If you live in a warm climate, it's pretty hot under the headset and basically, it does have a mild druglike effect in that you can feel a little oddness, coming back to reality after a long session.

The thing you're going to realise as soon as you get into VR is that depth makes everything much much better.  It's really hard not to baulk when shit comes at you in VR.  Horror is an absolute fucking nightmare to play.  It's always the same when I put people into a horror wave shooter for the first time.  Bravado up until the headset goes on and then "oh.." and the fun begins.

I have played with some VR stuff. PS4, Oculus, HTV Vive. I'm not super into most of it myself.

I just wonder if it doesn't end up similar to the whole "3D" thing. 3D was a big thing a few years ago and it really didn't go anywhere.

No offence, but if you're still wondering about it being like 3D movies, then I submit you haven't played with it all that much. 

I mean, my bullshit detector was starting to go off when you said you wanted the holodeck and you claim to have used the vive (which has a huge holodeck vibe that is only restricted by room size).




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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2017, 05:52:54 AM »
The major caveat is that a lot of people (probably the majority, I'd say) struggle with the intensity of movement in VR.  Just press a controller forward a little and you'll feel one of the most bizarre feelings you will ever encounter.  A feeling of instant, utter unease.  Your brain didn't feel any motion, yet the eyes say you moved.  What happens?  You get sick.  The unease turns to straight up sickness and you stop.  Your brain forces you towards sickness and eventual vomiting (if you persist super long) because it believes it has been poisoned (due to the disparity in senses).

...So most VR games centre around either you being the centre of the game (ie, in a wave shooter - which is like 70% of all software coming out) or you use a warp system (ie, you click and it shows a warp marker, which you move around to your target position and then you move).  Very few VR games ask you to move without a warp because those games don't make any money because the first comments are always MAKES ME SICK and it goes downhill from there.





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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2017, 05:59:41 AM »
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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2017, 06:04:11 AM »
So how immersive is it exactly is what I'm wondering? Has the technology advanced far enough so as to get you lost in space so to speak?

Youtube elite dangerous vive , its literally like being in your own spaceship, its incredible.I have a flight stick and throttle to go with it, you can even control most of the ships functions with voice, in which william shatner responds.you forget that you are just sitting in your home.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2017, 06:28:21 AM »
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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2017, 06:30:10 AM »
Youtube elite dangerous vive , its literally like being in your own spaceship, its incredible.I have a flight stick and throttle to go with it, you can even control most of the ships functions with voice, in which william shatner responds.you forget that you are just sitting in your home.

Thank god the porn industry will perfect it before else anyone does.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2017, 06:31:16 AM »
Thank god the porn industry will perfect it before else anyone does.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2017, 06:36:11 AM »
loser

He is right though.

VIVE has full on room scale technology.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2017, 06:59:11 AM »
Horror games will become even more popular (more frightening experience in VR)

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2017, 07:09:18 AM »
No sorry....I'm a straight white male.

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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2017, 07:34:52 AM »
You can have a real life experience of outerspace by strapping a plastic bag tightly over your head.
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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2017, 10:10:41 AM »
VR  as it presently stands is pretty dam immersive , but there are a handful on new "VR" developments underway that appear to be taking a broad leap into the future.

One seemingly impressive one is presently being developed under the 'guidance' of George Lucas.

The big breakthrough at present is the development of the head-set that is totally wireless that can bit-map your living room and everything in it and to visually turn your furniture into something appropriate in accordance with the VR or the AR or the yada yada yada program.

That will allow you to walk within the VR, etc. game without tripping over your furniture or the cat or possibly even your wife.

Extra wives may even be 'installed' for Howard and other GetBiggers under similar circumstances.

ROCKET... Thanks for the info you posted above. I read it AFTER SUBMITTING THIS POST.




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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2017, 10:47:32 AM »
I did mention George Lucas in the above post but that was prior to reading the attached ...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/12/ilm-creates-xlab-for-bring-virtual-reality-to-movie-experience/71064884/


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Re: Anyone on here into Virtual Reality?
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2017, 10:51:26 AM »
I did mention George Lucas in the above post but that was prior to reading the attached ...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/06/12/ilm-creates-xlab-for-bring-virtual-reality-to-movie-experience/71064884/



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