Painkillers

[The Ugly]

I have no pain whatsoever.  Arguably, I have very little psychological pain.

Tonight is my sixth time taking Xanax.  I am currently on 4.5mg as of this post and feel very tired.  I feel too tired to enjoy being "high".  Admittedly, I don't care about anything right.  It's making my usual anger about leftists subside.  But is that a good thing?  I/we should be annoyed with leftist scum.  So I don't know what to say.

Let me do a typing test now and see how close I come to my 120 words per minute personal record.  I feel very, very tired.

Way too much for a daily dose. Doctor prescribe this much?

That stuff can be a nightmare, careful. Among the worst withdrawals imaginable.

[Nether Animal]

Avoid benzos, yes. Xanax should only be used in emergencies. People seriously underestimate the destructiveness of that drug.

[The Ugly]

Avoid benzos, yes. Xanax should only be used in emergencies. People seriously underestimate the destructiveness of that drug.

I've seen people who still have withdrawals almost a year after quitting. It turns temporary, moderate anxiety into long-term (if not permanent) severe anxiety.

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't feel out of it - just like I've been sapped of my energy.  Does that make sense?  I feel no anxiety, to be sure.  But I just basically feel extremely tired.  I'm fighting staying awake.  I bet I would sleep the moment my head hit the pillow.  What do you make of this?

As for the typing test, this is why worst result for sure - at least as far as I can remember.

So obviously this drug is slowing me down.

Does it help to throw in a Percocet, or will that do nothing?  Keep in mind that I am relatively naive to these drugs.  So no tolerance.  But would that combination be a bad thing?

Discuss this.

I don't know what Percs are exactly, how strong, but like Esfitness said it's a dangerous combo. I saw some documentary about how most deadly heroin and other opiate OD's are due to mixing these classes of drugs.

I've taken very few benzos in my life but they don't really make you high. But if one is suffering from crushing anxiety and panic the temporary relief can be sort of a high and make you able to think positive for a brief while.

[Van_Bilderass]

I've seen people who still have withdrawals almost a year after quitting. It turns temporary, moderate anxiety into long-term (if not permanent) severe anxiety.

I've seen commentary about how benzos creates panic syndrome in many people, saw some studies on it. Before they just had some level of anxiety, after too many benzos they were in an unimaginable hell.

[Van_Bilderass]

I was told recently by a sports physiotherapist that in the acute stage of inflammation, using ibuprofen in order to bring down that high level of inflammation is important to help with recovery.

Inflammation is a part of the recovery process, but this should be differentiated from acute inflammation which will not help the recovery process.

It's the same with something like an eye infection, you first need to get rid of the high-level of inflammation and then once that is gone the recovery process can begin or at least resolve faster.

Yes there are different opinions on NSAIDs and inflammation. Some say "runaway inflammation" after acute injury is bad and should be "controlled". Others think differently.

[ESFitness]

I don't know what Percs are exactly, how strong, but like Esfitness said it's a dangerous combo. I saw some documentary about how most deadly heroin and other opiate OD's are due to mixing these classes of drugs.

I've taken very few benzos in my life but they don't really make you high. But if one is suffering from crushing anxiety and panic the temporary relief can be sort of a high and make you able to think positive for a brief while.

Percs are oxycodone and acetaminophen/paracetamol. Usually 5-10mg of oxy. Oxycodone is generally 33-50% "stronger" than hydrocodone mg per mg.

[Griffith]

NSAIDs only work for so long, and some cannot even take them.

In my case, I was advised to use ibuprofen for two weeks.

Thankfully, I tolerate it very well, I always make sure to eat first though.

[TuHolmes]

 

[Matt]

Way too much for a daily dose. Doctor prescribe this much?

That stuff can be a nightmare, careful. Among the worst withdrawals imaginable.

2mg did nothing, so I just kept upping it. This is my sixth time using Xanax this month.  Most likely will be my last.  I'm not overly concerned about withdrawals, with only six uses, spaced out with days in between.  I just feel extremely tired.  I will fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow.

Not really sure the point of this drug.  I guess you just feel no anxiety at all.  No euphoria, but no anxiety.

PS - I added another 1mg.  So 5.5mg today.  Just feel tired.  Still got another 100 result on my typing test.  I'm still typing coherently now, am I not?

These things just make me tired.  I I have no interest in doing them again.

[Matt]

That's all benzos do for me. I see ho recreational value. You just fall asleep.

Dont bother wasting a perc... You wont be awake long enough to enjoy it.

Nice combo back in the day (before my opiate tolerance was through the roof) was whatever opiate you had (10mgs or whatever of vicodin or perc or whatever) with a low dose benzo (5-10valium, 1/2mg xanax, 1mg klonopin.. Those arnt quite equivilents btw), with 2 soma (700mg).

Mind you, mixing opiates & benzos & soma increases your chance of falling asleep and dying due to your breathing getting shallow. Fortunately/unfortunately i had/have a huge tolerance.

The dying in your sleep part scares me a bit.  Fuck the perc.  I will do it on Sunday.  Or two. 

[Jamaal]

The dying in your sleep part scares me a bit.  Fuck the perc.  I will do it on Sunday.  Or two. 

It increases the chance of respiratory depression - and since that's already slowed while sleeping, it's a bad mix.

ESFitness - did you ever look into the potentiation and blocking of the C-enzymes that break down its bioavailability when taken orally?

[FREAKgeek]

Good song.

[spiro]

Benzos are terrible I use them one or twice a month. Been doing that for a few years. I have been using a research benzo called etizolam you can get it online legally. Stuff is terrible for you. Rebound anxiety for a week after one dose.

[The Ugly]

2mg did nothing, so I just kept upping it. This is my sixth time using Xanax this month.  Most likely will be my last.  I'm not overly concerned about withdrawals, with only six uses, spaced out with days in between.  I just feel extremely tired.  I will fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow.

Not really sure the point of this drug.  I guess you just feel no anxiety at all.  No euphoria, but no anxiety.

PS - I added another 1mg.  So 5.5mg today.  Just feel tired.  Still got another 100 result on my typing test.  I'm still typing coherently now, am I not?

These things just make me tired.  I I have no interest in doing them again.

Ideally, that's exactly the drug's point. Relieve anxiety, no buzz. You'd think it'd less addictive that way, but no.

Guess I'm not understanding you: You took them for anxiety or to get high? Because it seems they worked perfectly on the former.

[Taffin]

In layman's terms, this is what happens.

When you take pain killers they fill these locks and you feel great.  But because of the abundance of opiates that are flooding the body the brain makes MORE opiate receptors that want to be filled.

Really?  So by simply flooding the bloodstream with extra 'X' we can force the body to create extra 'X' receptors...?  For real?  This is an astounding new field of medicine you've discovered dude!  By simply overdosing someone with something (X), you can actually change their biology to make the body 'desire' substance 'X'.

Presumably your theory works for steroids too, right?  The more you take, the more your body creates receptors for the substance, so it just gets better and better....... amazing...

Wow, and they say this forum  isn't worth sh1t..... ... 

[wes]

I have a script for Diazapam......I`d be a mess without it.

I only take as needed.

[Jamaal]

I have a script for Diazapam......I`d be a mess without it.

I only take as needed.

"As needed" due to the long half life allowing you to get away with off days in between dosing?

[ESFitness]

It increases the chance of respiratory depression - and since that's already slowed while sleeping, it's a bad mix.

ESFitness - did you ever look into the potentiation and blocking of the C-enzymes that break down its bioavailability when taken orally?

Yep. Except only when taking opiate pills. Used benedryl, tonic water (with quinine... Learned that from one of the few conversations with tom prince), tagamet, & about 20oz of white grapefruit juice all about 30-45mins prior to taking the tabs. Only really did that when using pills, unless i was running low on H. Cant honestly say I noticed much difference. Pills to me would be a waste of time& money since it'd take me 200+mgs of oxycodone or 20+ mg of diluadid to feel anything,& even then the "feeling is sub-par.

Now, after being clean for a lil under a year I've found a combo of 800mg Gabapentin (nerve damage in my hand/arms mostly, but also neck & back issues.. For whatever reason Lyrics doesn't have the same effect. Actually feels worse.), along with 20mg baclophen (mild muscle relaxant. Started using that after reading studies treating alcohol withdrawal/cravings/anxiety successfull), & .10-.15mg clonidine 3x per day works really, really well. It's not an intoxicating feeling, but definitely produces a sort of I can't feel my face physical & mental "high"... All without any feelings of withdrawal. Not hard to get scripts for those meds either. Allows me to fall asleep "naturally",also doesn't interfere with training or make you feel under the influence. I'd assuredly recommend the Gabapentin Baclofen and clonidine combination over a combination of opiates benzos and your typically abused muscle relaxants such as Soma.

I'm surprised by how many people don't take a pro-active approach & spend the time to learn about the drugs/meds they take in order to achieve the desired effect and minimize negative effects.

[wes]

"As needed" due to the long half life allowing you to get away with off days in between dosing?

I have a sever anxiety disorder.......don`t know about half lives but I very rarely take them as a rule.

[Jamaal]

I have a sever anxiety disorder.......don`t know about half lives but I very rarely take them as a rule.

Do you take minerals and magnesium in larger doses? Homeopathic changes and remedies seem to work better than benzodiazepines in a good many cases (seeing as there are no risk of physical dependence; just minor gastrointestinal disturbances)

[Jamaal]

I've seen commentary about how benzos creates panic syndrome in many people, saw some studies on it. Before they just had some level of anxiety, after too many benzos they were in an unimaginable hell.

This. Benzodiazepines seem to work for VERY short duration, before creating the dependence which turns to rebound anxiety.

Just isn't worth it.

[Deacon Jeschin]

Yep. Except only when taking opiate pills. Used benedryl, tonic water (with quinine... Learned that from one of the few conversations with tom prince)

Good idea since Tom Prince is well known for his wise pill choices.  Hahahahaha.......

[ESFitness]

Good idea since Tom Prince is well known for his wise pill choices.  Hahahahaha.......

TP was an iv drug user. Painkillers & coke.

The quinine actually came up when talking about cramps

[Van_Bilderass]

Yep. Except only when taking opiate pills. Used benedryl, tonic water (with quinine... Learned that from one of the few conversations with tom prince), tagamet, & about 20oz of white grapefruit juice all about 30-45mins prior to taking the tabs. Only really did that when using pills, unless i was running low on H. Cant honestly say I noticed much difference. Pills to me would be a waste of time& money since it'd take me 200+mgs of oxycodone or 20+ mg of diluadid to feel anything,& even then the "feeling is sub-par.

Now, after being clean for a lil under a year I've found a combo of 800mg Gabapentin (nerve damage in my hand/arms mostly, but also neck & back issues.. For whatever reason Lyrics doesn't have the same effect. Actually feels worse.), along with 20mg baclophen (mild muscle relaxant. Started using that after reading studies treating alcohol withdrawal/cravings/anxiety successfull), & .10-.15mg clonidine 3x per day works really, really well. It's not an intoxicating feeling, but definitely produces a sort of I can't feel my face physical & mental "high"... All without any feelings of withdrawal. Not hard to get scripts for those meds either. Allows me to fall asleep "naturally",also doesn't interfere with training or make you feel under the influence. I'd assuredly recommend the Gabapentin Baclofen and clonidine combination over a combination of opiates benzos and your typically abused muscle relaxants such as Soma.

I'm surprised by how many people don't take a pro-active approach & spend the time to learn about the drugs/meds they take in order to achieve the desired effect and minimize negative effects.

Gabapentin has got to be real addictive as well. It's abused by druggies too. I think 'necrosis' here on getbig mentioned he did some damage to his brain with too much gabapentin and pregabalin. I tried like 150mg a few times and it was "better" than benzos for me, anti-anxiety and mood lift.