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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2017, 09:56:51 AM »
Lmao, wouldn't you hate to be associated with this guy?   Talk about NO rest and NO peacefulness of mind.  You'd want bulletproof everything, too.  And forget having kids or a family of any sort.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2017, 10:01:00 AM »
A good, short read of someone who submitted data to Wikileaks, and it was never published due to verification issues.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/wikileaks-keeps-100-accuracy-record/

Interesting information, but his examples are kind of generalized.

I would love to see how they verify things they got from Snowden or whomever else. Surely they aren't passing the information around the government channels to verify it?

Are they?

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2017, 10:18:39 AM »
Interesting information, but his examples are kind of generalized.

I would love to see how they verify things they got from Snowden or whomever else. Surely they aren't passing the information around the government channels to verify it?

Are they?

^ Yeah, the comments are good on it, too.  Looks like a bunch of regulars on this guy's blog, fighting like getbiggers.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2017, 10:21:27 AM »
^ Yeah, the comments are good on it, too.  Looks like a bunch of regulars on this guy's blog, fighting like getbiggers.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2017, 10:22:30 AM »
Only way I can figure this guy is communicating, is by paper.  How else could it be done?  And it's also possible that he's nothing but a face and name attached to it, since it seems impossible to believe that so much work is being done by a guy hiding in his room.  How is the communication happening.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2017, 10:24:57 AM »
I dont fight w GB'rs  - i just mock Andreisawelfarequeen and Strawfag

Andre's asking for it.  Worst troublemaker I've seen, anywhere.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2017, 10:25:59 AM »
Just one percent of the files released so far according to wikileaks!!

WikiLeaks says just 1% of #Vault7 covert documents released so far


https://www.rt.com/news/379856-wikileaks--cia-hacking-vault7/



Desperate media operation already launched trying to make media buzz about something else  ;D

US general says Russia has deployed banned missile

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-general-russia-deployed-banned-missile-45992484


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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2017, 10:28:10 AM »
Assange needs to have that shit in Sweden (or wherever) cleared up, so he won't be bogged down with relatively minor stuff like that.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2017, 10:31:44 AM »
Only way I can figure this guy is communicating, is by paper.  How else could it be done?  And it's also possible that he's nothing but a face and name attached to it, since it seems impossible to believe that so much work is being done by a guy hiding in his room.  How is the communication happening.

This is beyond my pay grade! Lol.

He has associates all over the globe; I would assume he uses encryption of some sort, or like mentioned above: Assange has so much dirt on the Powers That Be that they are afraid to disrupt him, intimidate him, or attempt to assassinate him.

Really neat (and scary) stuff!
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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2017, 10:35:27 AM »
^^
He's residing in foreign embassy. It's foreign territory.

It would be diplomatic disaster if Americans killed him there even if they could somehow get in.
Their only way is to blackmail/bribe the Ecuadorian president to kick Assange out. He will be arrested the moment he steps outside the embassy.

Immunity of diplomatic missions are respected for a reason.
By breaking it even with quite minor player like Ecuador who probably could not retaliate, Americans would start the erosion of the system. You have embassies and staff abroad too. And they are untouched even in hostile countries. Because this system has been managed to be kept intact for centuries.




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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2017, 10:43:12 AM »
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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2017, 10:46:46 AM »
This is beyond my pay grade! Lol.

He has associates all over the globe; I would assume he uses encryption of some sort, or like mentioned above: Assange has so much dirt on the Powers That Be that they are afraid to disrupt him, intimidate him, or attempt to assassinate him.

Really neat (and scary) stuff!

Yes, that's the thing.  If he's holding the winning hand, and it serves to protect him from death, then it says at least one other person may have the answer.  But that means anyone known to be associated with him could be a suspect, which would then make his objectives all the more difficult to achieve.

That alone would make me inclined to believe the whole thing is con.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2017, 10:48:00 AM »
Pretty dumb of Howard (on another thread) to say he felt the email was fake.  Not sure he said exactly that, but it was similarly silly.

I likely did say that.

On a serious note, in my career field of physics, we depend on strictly verified information.
In scientific journals are "refereed " . In simple terms they check each and every figure and detail.

I also realize that the world of political news is a mixed bag in terms of credible sources.
BUT, I do the best I can to filter the crap from the credible.

In the end we all make our own conclusions and make our best personal judgments.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2017, 10:52:29 AM »
^^
He's residing in foreign embassy. It's foreign territory.

It would be diplomatic disaster if Americans killed him there even if they could somehow get in.
Their only way is to blackmail/bribe the Ecuadorian president to kick Assange out. He will be arrested the moment he steps outside the embassy.

Immunity of diplomatic missions are respected for a reason.
By breaking it even with quite minor player like Ecuador who probably could not retaliate, Americans would start the erosion of the system. You have embassies and staff abroad too. And they are untouched even in hostile countries. Because this system has been managed to be kept intact for centuries.


He made bad choice with Ecuador though.
Everyone knows there is only one place where you are safe if Americans are after you. Snowden is there.
Americans dare not step there without permission and wield zero power over the decision making there.



Very good points.

I'd only point out that he does require food, and he is without a doubt a hard drinker (can see it in his face) so these things punch holes into his safety.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2017, 10:54:25 AM »
^ He also smokes TMK, so once again he has many chinks in the armour that can be exploited from the outside.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2017, 11:04:53 AM »
I likely did say that.

On a serious note, in my career field of physics, we depend on strictly verified information.
In scientific journals are "refereed " . In simple terms they check each and every figure and detail.

I also realize that the world of political news is a mixed bag in terms of credible sources.
BUT, I do the best I can to filter the crap from the credible.

In the end we all make our own conclusions and make our best personal judgments.

Then you should be the first to say the emails are real, Howard.  You should be satisfied they are, since you know better than to say otherwise.

But no.  Instead, you run around the site angering other GBers.  Pissing them the fuck OFF.

So you're all good by me.


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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2017, 11:07:31 AM »
Interesting information, but his examples are kind of generalized.

I would love to see how they verify things they got from Snowden or whomever else. Surely they aren't passing the information around the government channels to verify it?

Are they?

They don't really have to verify the facts on the emails, they only have to verify that the source is authentic.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2017, 11:27:35 AM »
Has Wikileaks published anything that is detrimental to Russia or Putin

Haven't read this thread but just wondering

Certainly seems like a target rich environment considering the Russian government is basically a crime organization

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2017, 11:41:57 AM »
Has Wikileaks published anything that is detrimental to Russia or Putin

Haven't read this thread but just wondering

Certainly seems like a target rich environment considering the Russian government is basically a crime organization

I've read that Russia (and the surrounding region) have more hackers than anywhere else.
...because the Russian gov't is already thought of as corrupt, there's probably a smaller market for their leaks.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2017, 11:49:39 AM »
Putin is known to be a "paper and courier" type gentleman, like Trump.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2017, 11:54:19 AM »
I watched Hillary blithering and blathering about the Women Day stuff, and man I'm so glad she lost.  Just the stupidest, most meaningless SHIT these people try to use against society.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2017, 12:38:29 PM »
Has Wikileaks published anything that is detrimental to Russia or Putin

Haven't read this thread but just wondering

Certainly seems like a target rich environment considering the Russian government is basically a crime organization


Haha, CNN has been "reporting" that for whole their existence. No one watches their Russian-language service  ;D

Bro, look at the mess your government and the affiliated agencies are. There's basically no way someone could be worse. Russia doesn't even have resources to be mess that huge. It only has 3 corrupt intelligence agencies, whereas you have 16!





And China is just becoming active!



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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2017, 12:56:49 PM »
PS. While Washington elite has been pumping their fists in the air and brutally calling Putin names, "corrupt Putin" has been at work again!
Securing top level jobs for tens of thousands of Russians and EU-Hungarian brothers. Deal worth of billions. HUGE!

US lackeys in EU slipping from line?

Hungary wins final EU approval for Russian-built nuclear plant

https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/hungary-wins-final-eu-approval-for-russian-built-nuclear-plant/


PPS. Great Rosatom building in Finland too - NICE! Putin bringing jobs to thousands with his corruption!

I often see American brothers quoting stock market indices as showing their economic growth. It has been huge increase now under Trump.
Russia has tiny and immature market compared to US markets but Putin haven't been doing too bad on that regard either. Considering he's so corrupt, all the money is stolen from Russia, sanctions etc. Imagine if he was not corrupt and didn't steal all the money!
Does CNN ever report that Russian stock market is now at all time highs  ???





 

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2017, 05:47:45 PM »
I dont fight w GB'rs  - i just mock Andreisawelfarequeen and Strawfag

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2017, 09:48:46 PM »
They don't really have to verify the facts on the emails, they only have to verify that the source is authentic.

But leaving it to those who would love to shoot the whole works down by pointing to anything false, which no one did tmk... but not through lack of effort, no doubt.

So, we're left with the content of those emails, as well as the fact they were taken in the first place from someone who didn't respect the information yet fully owed us its proper care.

All in all, not good.

SO, exactly who the fuck is the "bad guy" here, again?

And BTW, if in fact it is true that email is the cause of Hillary's loss, as twisted as it is to try to believe it, then isn't Hillary and ONLY Hillary to blame when it came to answering the question about whether she's the choice for the job?

Problems, problems, for the lady with her twelfth drink in hand.










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