Author Topic: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)  (Read 13028 times)

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2017, 10:13:45 PM »
But leaving it to those who would love to shoot the whole works down by pointing to anything false, which no one did tmk... but not through lack of effort, no doubt.

So, we're left with the content of those emails, as well as the fact they were taken in the first place from someone who didn't respect the information yet fully owed us its proper care.

All in all, not good.

SO, exactly who the fuck is the "bad guy" here, again?



Even if there is false information on a few emails, it doesn't invalidate them. If I send you an email
2+2=5 the information is wrong but it's still my email.
The only ones who would want to discredit them would be the US Government I'd imagine.

The only thing I know about hacking is what I see in the movies and I hear they're unrealistic.

As for Clinton...I tried like hell to come up with a better solution but I couldn't. I really disliked both candidates.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2017, 05:33:17 AM »
Don't worry: Bush's CIA & NSA chief Michael Hayden tells CNN there's no such thing as a Deep State in the US - just a "permanent government"




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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2017, 09:26:05 AM »
Even if there is false information on a few emails, it doesn't invalidate them. If I send you an email
2+2=5 the information is wrong but it's still my email.

Info saying the person isn't good at math or may have a reason to lie about it, would be true.

The only ones who would want to discredit them would be the US Government I'd imagine.

Anyone who'd have wished to see the whole damn thing go-away and leave Hillary alone, would have interest in diminishing it to the greatest degree possible.

Yet not even the tiniest dot was able to be diminished.

The only thing I know about hacking is what I see in the movies and I hear they're unrealistic.

And FWIW, Hollywood and CNN are all but one-and-the-same.

As for Clinton...I tried like hell to come up with a better solution but I couldn't. I really disliked both candidates.

No, it's understandable.  I'm not as rough on Hillary supporters as before, but she's only herself to blame for failing.  And that Bozo husband of hers didn't help.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2017, 09:39:11 AM »


Anyone who'd have wished to see the whole damn thing go-away and leave Hillary alone, would have interest in diminishing it to the greatest degree possible.

Yet not even the tiniest dot was able to be diminished.



I don't think we're talking about the same thing here. No one is (or should be) discrediting the leaks on Clinton, from all reports they're accurate.

My response about the US gov't had only to do with the CIA leaks.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2017, 09:50:54 AM »
I don't think we're talking about the same thing here. No one is (or should be) discrediting the leaks on Clinton, from all reports they're accurate.

My response about the US gov't had only to do with the CIA leaks.

It's all become the same, IMO, since Hillary's crowd has interest in discrediting Wiki.  I'd imagine their asses still hurt from that little election we just had.

Sorry to say, too, many of them are just so completely deranged that they'd actually minimize CIA problems if it could make Hillary look just a "little" better within their warped vision.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #80 on: March 09, 2017, 09:51:07 AM »
BUT some annoying speeches won't destroy the country.

What does this even mean?


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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #81 on: March 09, 2017, 10:04:38 AM »
Trust me, that "hear woman roar", rambling makes me cringe too.

BUT some annoying speeches won't destroy the country.

IMHO, it is a matter of trying to get everyone to exhaust their energies on things which will not be resolved in such a way.  Sounds like a destructive practice to me, so not sure I agree with your last statement.

Funny how when we most need working solutions from our politicians, we see tail-chasing instead.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2017, 10:52:24 AM »
NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers. Think it takes a warrant? Nope, just somebody willing to do it.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839910922193932289

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog-idUSBRE98Q14G20130927
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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2017, 12:15:14 PM »
NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers. Think it takes a warrant? Nope, just somebody willing to do it.


Hardly news. Of course they have the capability. It's like saying NSA doesn't need orders to have someone assassinated, just somebody willing to do it.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2017, 02:12:20 PM »
I'll admit you know more then me about this wiki-leaks issue.
All I know is some of the contents are legit, mixed in with some propaganda (Russia? )

Where are you coming up with "some" and Russian propoganda?

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #85 on: March 09, 2017, 02:39:19 PM »
Where are you coming up with "some" and Russian propoganda?

Seriously, don't even entertain him with answers anymore
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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2017, 03:00:40 PM »
Where are you coming up with "some" and Russian propoganda?

Howard there is no evidence that the email from Wikileaks is anything but authentic.

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Re: Wikileaks Vault 7 (3/7/17)
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2017, 09:31:44 AM »
In regards to the DNC e-mails and wikileaks, the widely cited Russian fingerprints on the “hacking” attacks – such as malware associated with the suspected Russian cyber-attackers APT 28 (also known as “Fancy Bear”); some Cyrillic letters: and the phrase “Felix Edmundovich,” a reference to Dzerzhinsky, the founder of a Bolsheviks’ secret police – look less like proof of Russian guilt than they did earlier.

Or put differently — based on the newly available CIA material — the possibility that these telltale signs were planted to incriminate Moscow doesn’t sound as farfetched as it might have earlier.

A former U.S. intelligence officer, cited by The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, acknowledged that the CIA’s “Umbrage” library of foreign hacking tools could “be used to mask a U.S. operation and make it appear that it was carried out by another country…. That could be accomplished by inserting malware components from, say, a known Chinese, Russian or Iranian hacking operation into a U.S. one.”

While that possibility in no way clears Moscow in the case of the Democratic “hack,” it does inject new uncertainty into the “high confidence” that President Obama’s intelligence community expressed in its assessment of Russian culpability. If the CIA had this capability to plant false leads in the data, so too would other actors, both government and private, to cover their own tracks.


https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/08/fresh-doubts-about-russian-hacking/
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