Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)

[Howard]

Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's been the law of the land for 7 years.
How can Trump get something passed that will be better?

[LurkerNoMore]

GOP as opposition party:
Repealed Obamacare 63 times.
GOP as governing party: cannot repeal Obamacare even once!

A better question is if Trumpcare was such a shit plan.... why were they hellbent on forcing it on everyone?  17% approval?  HAHAHAHA

[Yamcha]

I don't think Trump or the republicans had any serious health care plan ready to go.

 

[TheGrinch]

Fuck both of them..

Can I just get my old healthcare plan back already?


REPEAL.... put back the same friggin system that was around for 100 years...

THEN work on a replacement..

Retards... all of them

[loco]

Fuck both of them..

Can I just get my old healthcare plan back already?


REPEAL.... put back the same friggin system that was around for 100 years...

THEN work on a replacement..

Retards... all of them

I keep asking myself the same question.

[Yamcha]

Because the Health Insurance companies are the ones who author these "bills" and then pay for them to pass

[Coach is Back!]

Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's been the law of the land for 7 years.
It put millions on health Ins that didn't have it before.
It took a little over a year of hard , legislative work for Obama to sign it into law in early 2010.

Trump often shouted he would repeal and replace Obamacare quickly once he got into office.
Ok, so he's now in office with a  republican house and senate.
Despite this edge, he couldn't pass his now failed AHCA plan into law.
Of course they worked on it for a whopping 17 days before folding their tents.

Final analysis:
Obamacare - landmark legislation on health care that lasts 7 years and counting.

Trumpcare - failed bill that was pulled after 17 days.

What the hell kind of a comparison is that? Hahaha holy fuck, you were a teacher?

[Coach is Back!]

Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's been the law of the land for 7 years.
It put millions on health Ins that didn't have it before.
It took a little over a year of hard , legislative work for Obama to sign it into law in early 2010.

Trump often shouted he would repeal and replace Obamacare quickly once he got into office.
Ok, so he's now in office with a  republican house and senate.
Despite this edge, he couldn't pass his now failed AHCA plan into law.
Of course they worked on it for a whopping 17 days before folding their tents.

Final analysis:
Obamacare - landmark legislation on health care that lasts 7 years and counting.

Trumpcare - failed bill that was pulled after 17 days.

It was overwhelmingly unpopular by the American people but to reiterate....it was "shoved down our throats"  On a recess, without including republican vote, behind closed doors, in the middle of the night while coercing a Supreme Court Judge. Like I said, liberals are some of the dumbest mother f**kers on the face of the planet. They offer nothing nor can they ever defend a position

[LurkerNoMore]

It was overwhelmingly unpopular by the American people but to reiterate....it was "shoved down our throats"  On a recess, without including republican vote, behind closed doors, in the middle of the night while coercing a Supreme Court Judge. Like I said, liberals are some of the dumbest mother f**kers on the face of the planet. They offer nothing nor can they ever defend a position

Unpopular?   So unpopular that the Republican planned only garnered a 17% approval rating. 

You calling someone else dumb is laughable when you are considered by the majority of the board to be the stupidest person posting on here.

[TuHolmes]

Fuck both of them..

Can I just get my old healthcare plan back already?


REPEAL.... put back the same friggin system that was around for 100 years...

THEN work on a replacement..

Retards... all of them

No... You can't get your old healthcare plan.

I understand people liking the way it was. I get it, if you were the fortunate one to have good healthcare because of company benefits or whatever. I do get it.

That said, there were tens of millions of people who had zero coverage at all and now they do. There is no way that it will go back to the way it was. It won't happen.

The only thing that's going to possible change at this point, will be socialized medicine like the rest of the western world. If you hate socialism, you're in for a bad day, because that's the only way health care will change from what you have now.

Medicare for all will be the law of the land if anything happens.

What changed from your company provided healthcare when the ACA went into effect? Why am I the only person with company paid healthcare that actually had the cost go down a bit and the coverage get a little better?

I can't be that special of a case.

[Coach is Back!]

Unpopular?   So unpopular that the Republican planned only garnered a 17% approval rating. 

You calling someone else dumb is laughable when you are considered by the majority of the board to be the stupidest person posting on here.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/10/30/obamacare_more_unpopular_now_than_2010_294571.html

[Grape Ape]

No... You can't get your old healthcare plan.
That said, there were tens of millions of people who had zero coverage at all and now they do. There is no way that it will go back to the way it was. It won't happen.

Part of the problem with this is that coverage does not equate to healthcare.

Many who got "coverage" can afford deductibles and co-pays so they still don't get the necessary care provided.

The system is still deeply flawed and needs more than a tweak.

[LurkerNoMore]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/10/30/obamacare_more_unpopular_now_than_2010_294571.html

Trumpcare = 17%    Enough said.

[Coach is Back!]

Trumpcare = 17%    Enough said.

What part of my first post did you miss? Maybe the part where no one wanted it but was "shoved down our throats" anyway? You're trolling. You have to be

[TuHolmes]

Part of the problem with this is that coverage does not equate to healthcare.

Many who got "coverage" can afford deductibles and co-pays so they still don't get the necessary care provided.

The system is still deeply flawed and needs more than a tweak.

Totally get where you are coming from. I don't necessarily disagree. What's the alternative? I'm telling you, the only thing that's going to happen is going to be single payer.

Which is really just socialized healthcare, but without the word "socialism" in it.

It's just reality.

[TheGrinch]

Totally get where you are coming from. I don't necessarily disagree. What's the alternative? I'm telling you, the only thing that's going to happen is going to be single payer.

Which is really just socialized healthcare, but without the word "socialism" in it.

It's just reality.

Like Canada has?

Like all the Canadians that drive over the border to pay for healthcare here with cash because their healthcare SUCKS donkey balls

[Yamcha]

.gov can't even run the VA effectively.

multiply that insanity by 15

[TheGrinch]

https://www.facebook.com/dickmorriscom/videos/10155056896644438/?story_fbid=10155056896644438&id=8057684437

[Straw Man]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/10/30/obamacare_more_unpopular_now_than_2010_294571.html

why are you posting a link from October 2012?

[Coach is Back!]

why are you posting a link from October 2012?

Simple pointing out that it was more of a piece two years after its inception and continued to get worse after that. You've been had by your lying messiah

[LurkerNoMore]

What part of my first post did you miss? Maybe the part where no one wanted it but was "shoved down our throats" anyway? You're trolling. You have to be

Like Trumpcare would have been if they had the votes?   

Why am I not surprised you can't grasp simple logic?

[Straw Man]

Simple pointing out that it was more of a piece two years after its inception and continued to get worse after that. You've been had by your lying messiah

and 4 years later it much more popular - which is very likely due to people actually having a chance to use it and realize the benefits in their own lives or those of their family members

[Coach is Back!]

and 4 years later it much more popular - which is very likely due to people actually having a chance to use it and realize the benefits in their own lives or those of their family members

 Wrong dead wrong more and more people are opting to pay the fine rather than pay the premium because they cannot afford the premiums more and more insurance companies In certain states are leaving Obamacare because it is not sustainable

[mazrim]

and 4 years later it much more popular - which is very likely due to people actually having a chance to use it and realize the benefits in their own lives or those of their family members

The bleating continues.

[Yamcha]

The bleating continues.