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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2017, 07:21:54 PM »

Right - so take someone who is like Andre.  Fat - gay - doesn't work - able body but can - sits on GB all day trolling dudes - he loves the Medicare expansion cause it's free Shit.   Straw loves it because he can put his Ecuadorian husband and his kid on both for free cause he ain't paying for it either.  

Meanwhile - people like you and me paying for all this bullshit.

I'll bet vissy on Obamacare and posting from obamaphOne too.  



This is an aside.

I know a couple of people who qualify and utilize Medicaid and a lot of other free shit from the government, partly because they cheat and lie. While they enjoy these freebies, they are staunch Trump supporters and hate anything Obama. When the mother was recently incarcerated for failing to meet the responsibilities of her probation, which she is on for having several DUII's in the past few years, she and her adult daughter blame the judge who sent her to jail for 21 days. Now they are talking about suing him.

Why is it that people who most benefit from government programs sponsored with taxpayer's funds, complain about the system that keeps them afloat and embrace a system that will take them down? Are they just stupid?

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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2017, 02:08:45 AM »
This is an aside.

I know a couple of people who qualify and utilize Medicaid and a lot of other free shit from the government, partly because they cheat and lie. While they enjoy these freebies, they are staunch Trump supporters and hate anything Obama. When the mother was recently incarcerated for failing to meet the responsibilities of her probation, which she is on for having several DUII's in the past few years, she and her adult daughter blame the judge who sent her to jail for 21 days. Now they are talking about suing him.

Why is it that people who most benefit from government programs sponsored with taxpayer's funds, complain about the system that keeps them afloat and embrace a system that will take them down? Are they just stupid?

No idea.   

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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2017, 07:33:19 AM »
This is an aside.

I know a couple of people who qualify and utilize Medicaid and a lot of other free shit from the government, partly because they cheat and lie. While they enjoy these freebies, they are staunch Trump supporters and hate anything Obama. When the mother was recently incarcerated for failing to meet the responsibilities of her probation, which she is on for having several DUII's in the past few years, she and her adult daughter blame the judge who sent her to jail for 21 days. Now they are talking about suing him.

Why is it that people who most benefit from government programs sponsored with taxpayer's funds, complain about the system that keeps them afloat and embrace a system that will take them down? Are they just stupid?

Greed.

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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2017, 11:32:04 AM »
On this page - strawfag and AndreisaLGBTQWTF , straws husband qualify - for free along with their free phones .   Rest of us pay the freight

Great contribution and hey Mod's great job as always

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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2017, 11:35:55 AM »
Are Republican really just a bunch of fucking amateurs

they thought they could overhaul healthcare in two and half weeks with "ONE HOUR WEEKLY MEETINGS"?

WTF???

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Texas Republican Rep. Randy Weber, a member of the House Freedom Caucus who opposed the GOP health care bill said Tuesday he thought that the GOP conference could find a way to get a revised Obamacare bill through the House if they all got in a room and put their heads together.

"We need to stay here on the weekend and have an all-day conference," Weber said, noting that the one-hour weekly meetings weren't enough time to work through the sticking points.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/republicans-health-care/


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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2017, 03:41:40 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/upshot/obamacare-choices-could-go-from-one-to-zero-in-some-areas.html?_r=0



Parts of the country are in jeopardy of not having an insurer offering Obamacare plans next year.

Many counties already have just one insurer offering health plans in the Obamacare marketplaces, and some of those solo insurers are showing signs that they are eyeing the exits.

Humana announced this year that they’d be leaving the markets altogether next year. That means there are parts of Tennessee that will have no insurance options unless another insurer decides to enter.

And Anthem, which operates in 14 states, is getting nervous, an industry analyst told Bloomberg News this week. Its departure would be a much bigger problem. According to an analysis of government data by Katherine Hempstead at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, Anthem is currently the only insurance carrier in nearly 300 counties, serving about a quarter of a million people.

As you can see on our map of those counties, an Anthem departure could leave coverage gaps in substantial parts of Georgia, Missouri, Kentucky, Ohio and Colorado, as well as smaller holes in other states. In places where no insurance company offers plans, there will be no way for Obamacare customers to use subsidies to buy health plans.

Without an option for affordable coverage, they would become exempt from the health law’s mandate to obtain coverage. A result could be large increases in the number of Americans without health insurance.

The Places Where Obamacare Markets Are Thin
Humana said it would leave the marketplace next year, and Anthem is considering doing so. People may end up without options.

Counties with only one insurance carrier in 2017. (Unshaded counties have at least two.)
Ark.
Calif.
Ill.
Kan.
Miss.
Ohio
Tex.
Ala.
Iowa
La.
Minn.
Mo.
Neb.
Ariz.
Colo.
Ind.
Mich.
Mont.
N.Y.
Ore.
Va.
Wyo.
N.C.
Okla.
Tenn.
Wis.
Alaska
Vt.
N.D.
Ga.
Me.
R.I.
W.Va.
Idaho
S.D.
N.M.
Wash.
Pa.
Fla.
Utah
Ky.
N.H.
S.C.
Nev.
Hawaii
N.J.
Conn.
Md.
Mass.
Del.
Humana
Anthem
Another single insurer
More than one insurer

Source: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation analysis of Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services data.
The Affordable Care Act set up new markets for people who don’t get insurance through work or the government. About 11 million people bought coverage on those state markets last year. But the system depends on the voluntary participation of private insurance companies. And some parts of the country have proved more popular for insurers than others.

In the last year, several large commercial insurance companies decided to stop offering insurance in the markets. And some carriers that continued to offer Obamacare plans scaled back on the number of counties they served. In general, the places without much remaining insurance competition tend to be rural and expensive. (These areas tend to have fewer hospitals and doctors to choose from, reducing the ability of insurers to negotiate lower prices.)

There are a number of solo-carrier counties served by other companies, but none by as many as Anthem, Ms. Hempstead’s analysis shows. Cigna, the company with the next-largest potential impact, is the only carrier in 14 counties, containing about 100,000 insurance customers.

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Anthem could well stay in the markets. It may simply be floating the option of departure to improve its negotiating position with the Trump administration over various regulatory requests. Or it may be expressing anxiety about the future. Insurers around the country are worried about the policy environment surrounding the Affordable Care Act. Mr. Trump has said that the health law “will explode” — a comment that may suggest he will do little to help the markets, or could even set the fuse.


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When insurers left communities in recent years, the Obama administration and local officials worked hard to recruit replacements. The Trump administration might not do the same. So far, no carrier has come forward publicly to say it will serve the counties in Tennessee that Humana is leaving.

Insurers are making initial decisions about where to sell their products and how much to charge. But the final lineup of insurers is still several months away. Some states require companies to file initial requests this month, and the Trump administration has asked for price proposals in late June. If, after that, insurers decide the political or regulatory outlook looks less favorable, they will still have several months to leave the markets.

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Re: Let's compare Obamacare (ACA) to Trump care (AHCA)
« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2017, 07:20:35 PM »
I don't get it..

Why can't they just repeal... go back to before ACA and than figure out what they want to replace it with from there..