Mike Mentzer - Discussion

[Henda]

Those idiotic mentzer/hardgainer/Stuart mcrobert routines built their reputation on the fact that many of the people trying them out are chronically overtrained on the high volume routines touted in all the magazines, it's the defatiguing from the volume routine that causes the great initial gains, after that it becomes a constant struggle to gain size but they are decent for strength but there are far better methods of training for both size and strength

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[Hypertrophy]

What a solid physique and a small midsection. Bodybuilding has gone backwards since then.

[Nether Animal]

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[The Scott]

 

Even taking into account the mental problems of later years, Mike Mentzer was and remains vastly superior to Phildo.

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[oldschoolfan]

i still do not get how zane won that show

i bet he sucked and fucked all the judges

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[Eric2]

i still do not get how zane won that show

i bet he sucked and fucked all the judges

Politics running the show, and maybe some backstage glory hole action.

[Eric2]

Cool shots, unique build he had.

[Eric2]

Even taking into account the mental problems of later years, Mike Mentzer was and remains vastly superior to Phildo.

You know to be quite honest, after Dorian Yates and most of the Ronnie Coleman era, I stopped paying attention to the Olympia. The new guys that have been winning since just don't have any appeal? Especially Phil (MyCracken) the midget.

[beakdoctor]

What a solid physique and a small midsection. Bodybuilding has gone backwards since then.

Mike Mentzer has gone backwards since then.

[Griffith]

He must have seriously messed up his diet or some other part of his prep for the 1980 Olympia.

[Rambone]

[Never1AShow]

He must have seriously messed up his diet or some other part of his prep for the 1980 Olympia.

His belly was hanging out all over the place, wonder why?

[Griffith]

His belly was hanging out all over the place, wonder why?

Wasn't that from using heavy weights for his abs?

[oldschoolfan]

You know to be quite honest, after Dorian Yates and most of the Ronnie Coleman era, I stopped paying attention to the Olympia. The new guys that have been winning since just don't have any appeal? Especially Phil (MyCracken) the midget.

i quit following after yates retired myself.

[Kwon]

i quit following after yates retired myself.

Why did yates retire you?


Even though he was difficult to compete with, you could've still kept competing at smaller shows.

[oldschoolfan]

Why did yates retire you?


Even though he was difficult to compete with, you could've still kept competing at smaller shows.

bwa ha ha , good one bro ,

i meant i quit following the contests and competitors  after dorian retired,  i really thought that flex would win the 98 olympia, but ronnie came out of nowhere that year.

but i have never really got into it is since.   in the 90's  i knew just about allt he competitors there were a ton of good bb's back then to. that era was so intense competition wise.

another guy who had a nice look was al q gurley    i beleive he blew his knees out,  aron baker, got fucked over quite a bit to

[dj181]

Consolidated routine?

The strength gains are phenomenal if done right. I use his ideal routine at the moment as my usual training partner moved away from town due to work about 9 months ago and I haven't really found a suitable replacement yet. It's easier to spot myself with that routine due to the exercise choices, if that makes sense, in terms of static holds and negatives.

We were up to deadlifting 240kg for 15 reps (partner got more or less the same), but with extremely slow negatives from the first to the last rep, probably 5-6 seconds per negative or more. That way it becomes far more than just a 'lift' IMO, it really focuses on each and every portion of the movement. Done in that fashion we were having to sit down to compose ourselves for 15 minutes afterwards from the sheer exhaustion. We'd drive back from a workout trembling from head to toe!

240 ks for 15 is very good impressive

what was you starting weight and reps,  and how long did it take you to get there? 

And how often did you dead?

[Rambone]

Wasn't that from using heavy weights for his abs?