Mike Mentzer - Discussion

[Vince B]

Those of us who were contemporaries of these guys never reached the level they were at. Perhaps they were more motivated and perhaps they took more risks.

Ray Mentzer stayed at my place in Sydney for over a year in the late eighties. He was totally serious about training and knew what he was talking about.

Mike was perhaps the only writer in the muscle magazines who was also a philosopher.

[AbrahamG]

Those of us who were contemporaries of these guys never reached the level they were at. Perhaps they were more motivated and perhaps they took more risks.

Ray Mentzer stayed at my place in Sydney for over a year in the late eighties. He was totally serious about training and knew what he was talking about.

Mike was perhaps the only writer in the muscle magazines who was also a philosopher.

Did you allow them to smoke cigarettes in your apartment? 

[Vince B]

Did you allow them to smoke cigarettes in your apartment? 

Ray didn't smoke. I lived in a house not an apartment. Met Mike at Gold's Venice in 1991. Stayed at Ray's place in Torrance, Ca.

[The Scott]

Those of us who were contemporaries of these guys never reached the level they were at. Perhaps they were more motivated and perhaps they took more risks.

Ray Mentzer stayed at my place in Sydney for over a year in the late eighties. He was totally serious about training and knew what he was talking about.

Mike was perhaps the only writer in the muscle magazines who was also a philosopher.

He was probably the only writer that could actually write.

[Dan-O]

He was probably the only writer that could actually write.

Rick Wayne could write.  Julian Schmidt used a lot of big words that I had to look up in the dictionary (that was before Google).

[HonestBob]

Rick Wayne could write.  Julian Schmidt used a lot of big words that I had to look up in the dictionary (that was before Google).

Julian Schmidt was unreadable and an abysmal journalist.

Rick Wayne made the protagonists in bodybuilding seem interesting, he left a huge void when he packed it in.

Peter Mcgough was a decent writer with an engaging style back in his UK days.

[tommywishbone]

Julian Schmidt was unreadable and an abysmal journalist.

Rick Wayne made the protagonists in bodybuilding seem interesting, he left a huge void when he packed it in.

Peter Mcgough was a decent writer with an engaging style back in his UK days.

Knew all three. Read all three.

Agreed.

And every word ever attributed to Don Ross was written by Don Ross. Excellent writer and raconteur.

[HonestBob]

Knew all three. Read all three.

Agreed.

And every word ever attributed to Don Ross was written by Don Ross. Excellent writer and raconteur.

I only caught the tail end of Don Ross but I recall thinking he was pretty good.

I also thought Bob Kennedy did a great job with his early books (Hardcore Bodybuilding and Beef It).

[pellius]

Rick Wayne could write.  Julian Schmidt used a lot of big words that I had to look up in the dictionary (that was before Google).

Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles. I also thought he had a tremendous physique. Superior to Zane and Corney. Never seem to make a big splash as a competitor.

[BSN]

Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles. I also thought he had a tremendous physique. Superior to Zane and Corney. Never seem to make a big splash as a competitor.

Be careful. Some would consider him a bad writer because he dared to write and bad things about the god Arnold.

[dj181]

Wonder how big mentzer narcissism was

[The Scott]

Rick Wayne was pretty good both as a competitor and a writer. 

[fredrollon]

Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles.

Be careful. Some would consider him a bad writer because he dared to write and bad things about the god Arnold.

Odd. Rick looked to be enjoying himself mightily,here.....

[chess315]

Congratulations on that picture find - I'm pretty sure that is the plainest, cheapest, just thrown-together-in-someone's-kitchen set of sweats I have ever seen!  (Although I'd still have worn them at the time LOL!)

I might make some lol good idea

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

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[tommywishbone]

I only caught the tail end of Don Ross but I recall thinking he was pretty good.

I also thought Bob Kennedy did a great job with his early books (Hardcore Bodybuilding and Beef It).

Kennedy was under rated in many areas IMO. He was a good dude for the world of bodybuilding. I think bodybuilders would have done much much better financially, PR wise, etc., if Robert Kennedy was the shot caller from 1975-2000 and not Joe Weider.

[dj181]

Dyke and gay

[JAGO]

Those of us who were contemporaries of these guys never reached the level they were at. Perhaps they were more motivated and perhaps they took more risks.

Ray Mentzer stayed at my place in Sydney for over a year in the late eighties. He was totally serious about training and knew what he was talking about.

Mike was perhaps the only writer in the muscle magazines who was also a philosopher.

You weren’t a contemporary of theirs. Because I buy from Amazon does not make me a contemporary of Jeff Bezos.

J

[JAGO]

I wonder if that was taken in the Hamburger Hamlit.

J

[JAGO]

Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles. I also thought he had a tremendous physique. Superior to Zane and Corney. Never seem to make a big splash as a competitor.

Better than Zane? Laughable, just laughable.

J

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[oldtimer1]

Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles. I also thought he had a tremendous physique. Superior to Zane and Corney. Never seem to make a big splash as a competitor.

At his peak he could have beaten a lot of top guys including Zane. Realize he competed mainly before Arnold even reached the US. He won the Mr. Universe in 1965. He's not a spring chicken. More like a winter chicken. He's 79 years old. Destroyed Franco in all comparisons in this competition. He made a come back to enter the Olympia but he hurt his neck training.  It was so bad he had trouble putting a shirt on and he stopped training for the contest. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

At his peak he could have beaten a lot of top guys including Zane. Realize he competed mainly before Arnold even reached the US. He won the Mr. Universe in 1965. He's not a spring chicken. More like a winter chicken. He's 79 years old. Destroyed Franco in all comparisons in this competition. He made a come back to enter the Olympia but he hurt his neck training.  It was so bad he had trouble putting a shirt on and he stopped training for the contest. 

He didn't win the Universe in 65 , he won his class , Earl Maynard won the Mr Universe title , his class and the overall