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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1150 on: December 10, 2017, 01:01:53 PM »
He didn't win the Universe in 65 , he won his class , Earl Maynard won the Mr Universe title , his class and the overall

I guess it was the 67 Mr. World I was thinking of. Point I was making is that he competed a long time ago.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1151 on: December 10, 2017, 02:17:05 PM »
Julian Schmidt was unreadable and an abysmal journalist.

Rick Wayne made the protagonists in bodybuilding seem interesting, he left a huge void when he packed it in.

Peter Mcgough was a decent writer with an engaging style back in his UK days.

Bold part is mine, primarily for my thanks:  I'm glad to know I wasn't the only person who saw that!

Schmidt was a pompous blowhard, conflating million-dollar words with good writing.  That's a common mistake...among teenagers and the otherwise uneducated.  I can't help but to be reminded of True Adam Adonis' phase here, shortly after the first Mr. Getbig :)

Adam tried really hard to demonstrate his intellectual superiority by taking some merry romps through the thesaurus, oftentimes back firing, in addition to writing in a very stilted, almost 18th century manner...Schmidt was like that but far, far worse, LOL.  I remember one of his FLEX articles, a feature on that year's ASC.  The first few pages were some noise about Robbie Robinson overlooking a water body in Colombus ... Garbage.

Mentzer, McGough, Wayne and our own often cranky Rob Fortney aka Fortress, were all kick-ass writers.  In his later years, Mike started to succumb to some of that "big words, good writing" fallacy, but then, by that point, he was so wary of overtraining that he literally had some of his clients working out once every two weeks -- and less!

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1152 on: December 10, 2017, 02:41:21 PM »
Having a degree has nothing to do with intelligence. In the US a college degree has replaced the high school diploma. When everyone has a college degree no one has a college degree.  I do believe he was intelligent but he was very pompous in telling everyone he was smart. I will say this about degrees. Having a degree in the liberal arts is not the same as having a degree in the sciences. If someone has a mechanic engineering degree or degree in chemistry I would be the first to say they are intelligent.
  He didnt finish his, so good point, and nowadays your argument has some validity in re bachelors degrees, doctoral programs are  bit  different...

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1153 on: December 10, 2017, 11:46:17 PM »
At his peak he could have beaten a lot of top guys including Zane. Realize he competed mainly before Arnold even reached the US. He won the Mr. Universe in 1965. He's not a spring chicken. More like a winter chicken. He's 79 years old. Destroyed Franco in all comparisons in this competition. He made a come back to enter the Olympia but he hurt his neck training.  It was so bad he had trouble putting a shirt on and he stopped training for the contest. 

No, he could not have. Look at his physique; long waist, short thighs, long neck and no lats. Sorry, but you are wrong.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1154 on: December 11, 2017, 05:02:02 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1155 on: December 12, 2017, 08:47:51 AM »
Rick Wayne was by far my favorite writer at the time. I still plagiarize his "Sardinian Sidekick" description of Franco in one of his articles. I also thought he had a tremendous physique. Superior to Zane and Corney. Never seem to make a big splash as a competitor.



Crazy arms for that time...

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1156 on: December 12, 2017, 01:11:13 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1157 on: December 12, 2017, 01:53:45 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1158 on: December 12, 2017, 03:40:24 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1159 on: December 12, 2017, 03:55:53 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1160 on: December 12, 2017, 11:41:52 PM »
Mike and Frank at the 80 MrO

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1161 on: December 14, 2017, 08:38:14 AM »
1980

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1162 on: December 14, 2017, 01:34:38 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1163 on: December 14, 2017, 01:51:01 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1164 on: December 14, 2017, 02:03:55 PM »
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BAM.  A perfect 300 score at the 1978 Mr. Universe in Acapulco.


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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1165 on: December 14, 2017, 02:17:15 PM »
amazing, except his wide hips

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1166 on: December 14, 2017, 03:15:55 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1167 on: December 14, 2017, 04:58:08 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1168 on: December 14, 2017, 05:36:50 PM »
amazing, except his wide hips

Yep, tiny waist makes them stand out even more, but his trademark front poses are still awesome.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1169 on: December 17, 2017, 04:04:22 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1170 on: December 17, 2017, 05:23:49 PM »
BAM.  A perfect 300 score at the 1978 Mr. Universe in Acapulco.



His arms were biggest in 76 when he trained them 3 times a week

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1171 on: December 18, 2017, 10:06:21 PM »
Mike and Frank at the 80 MrO


Though they look to be about the same height but Mike is just so much more thicker and fuller than
Zane. It may be a case of apples and oranges but I so much more prefer Mike over Zane.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1172 on: December 19, 2017, 08:51:28 AM »


Though they look to be about the same height but Mike is just so much more thicker and fuller than
Zane. It may be a case of apples and oranges but I so much more prefer Mike over Zane.

I'm the opposite. I think Zane has it all over him in terms of condition.  Zane weighed about 10lbs lighter than he normally competed at for that contest. I also think Dickerson was better than both of them in that contest.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1173 on: December 19, 2017, 12:43:39 PM »
I'm the opposite. I think Zane has it all over him in terms of condition.  Zane weighed about 10lbs lighter than he normally competed at for that contest. I also think Dickerson was better than both of them in that contest.
Yes, Zane looks more defined here. Mentzer does look MUCH bigger, and his arms look  twice as big as Zanes.

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Re: Mike Mentzer - Discussion
« Reply #1174 on: December 19, 2017, 01:29:03 PM »
I'm the opposite. I think Zane has it all over him in terms of condition.  Zane weighed about 10lbs lighter than he normally competed at for that contest. I also think Dickerson was better than both of them in that contest.

Why did Zane compete lighter?