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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 05:44:44 PM »




So if this really is a big "nothing", can Trump use this tactic to his advantage in 2020?
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2017, 06:03:48 PM »
I want to know what your perception is of the articles you're reading

just sum it up in a few sentences


A fat, black, ignorant, law breaking stooge for the former president will be found innocent no matter how many laws she broke just because she is black.

And the Dems will watch the demise of their party never understanding that it's not the Russians....its YOU!

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 11:34:07 PM »
Will believe it when I see it. Not that they don't have proof....just that no perp walk is going to happen.

If you can't prosecute Hillary for obvious security issues/tax fraud then Rice will walk as well. Trump takes the beating and keeps on is my guess.

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2017, 04:44:37 AM »
Multiple sources tell Fox News that Susan Rice, former national security adviser under then-President Barack Obama, requested to unmask the names of Trump transition officials caught up in surveillance.

The unmasked names, of people associated with Donald Trump, were then sent to all those at the National Security Council, some at the Defense Department, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and then-CIA Director John Brennan – essentially, the officials at the top, including former Rice deputy Ben Rhodes.

The names were part of incidental electronic surveillance of candidate and President-elect Trump and people close to him, including family members, for up to a year before he took office.


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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2017, 05:23:12 AM »
Susan Rice - same slob and corrupt hack who covered for the lies on Benghazi 

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2017, 07:45:34 AM »
Susan Rice - same slob and corrupt hack who covered for the lies on Benghazi 

Loretta Lynch twin.

Obese neegul who got her entire career from being a neegul.

Lock her up!!!!

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2017, 08:49:09 AM »
Is it illegal? Who knows, but it sure as hell isn't ethical

What would be unethical about that? She was the national security adviser. Even if you interpreted it as a joke, trump did encourage a foreign government to hack his opponent's email during the presidential election campaign. Multiple members of his team were in contact with russian entities. We know one of those people lied about the nature of that contact, was fired and was seeking immunity to testify.

These ARE matters of national security. On the previous page, someone posted an article -from Breitbart of all places- that discussed how foreign surveillance escalates during a presidential transition. Just a few days ago, you started this thread in which it was revealed that the Obama administration nixed the idea of Comey writing an op-ed about Russian influence of the election until a stronger case could be made, which,in my opinion, does not support the idea that this was a flimsy witch hunt.

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 09:02:20 AM »
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2017, 10:00:38 AM »
What would be unethical about that? She was the national security adviser. Even if you interpreted it as a joke, trump did encourage a foreign government to hack his opponent's email during the presidential election campaign. Multiple members of his team were in contact with russian entities. We know one of those people lied about the nature of that contact, was fired and was seeking immunity to testify.


There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked.  If there had been a real need to reveal the identities - an intelligence need based on American interests - the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

The national-security advisor is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president's staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it wasn't to fulfill an intelligence need based on American Interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on White House/Democrat interests.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 10:21:44 AM »
Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce “detailed spreadsheets” of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/susan-rice-ordered-spy-agencies-to-produce-detailed-spreadsheets-involving-trump/#ixzz4dIoRkgVK
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 11:02:48 AM »
There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked.  If there had been a real need to reveal the identities - an intelligence need based on American interests - the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

The national-security advisor is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president's staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it wasn't to fulfill an intelligence need based on American Interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on White House/Democrat interests.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa

This is just not accurate. I'm not a lawyer,either, and even if I was a lot of this stuff would be up for interpretation,  but basically every single thing written on this is in agreement that American citizens' names are redacted as a matter of practice. If there is an intelligence need, authorized persons request the name, which is why the system is in place.


And, of course the job of national security advisor would require some level of investigation and deduction. Your opening post is an article about trump's nsc director allegedly conducting a review of the unmasking policy. If being "just" a white house staffer limited your duties to consuming intelligence, why was that task being performed?

That excerpt is just not a fact based analysis.


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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2017, 11:08:16 AM »
This is just not accurate. I'm not a lawyer,either, and even if I was a lot of this stuff would be up for interpretation,  but basically every single thing written on this is in agreement that American citizens' names are redacted as a matter of practice. If there is an intelligence need, authorized persons request the name, which is why the system is in place.


And, of course the job of national security advisor would require some level of investigation and deduction. Your opening post is an article about trump's nsc director allegedly conducting a review of the unmasking policy. If being "just" a white house staffer limited your duties to consuming intelligence, why was that task being performed?

That excerpt is just not a fact based analysis.



you should be aware by now that Republicans make up their own facts

you know, Alternative Facts

heck if it weren't for alternative facts most of our right wing posters would have nothing to talk about

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2017, 11:51:44 AM »

The names were part of incidental electronic surveillance of candidate and President-elect Trump and people close to him, including family members, for up to a year before he took office.
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Former Trump adviser admits to 2015 communication with Russian spy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-trump-adviser-admits-to-2015-communication-with-russian-spy/2017/04/04/a09d7384-193b-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.c7314472ad86


Carter Page, who served briefly as a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, made an appearance in a federal espionage case several years ago because he communicated with a Russian intelligence agent under surveillance by the FBI.

In a statement released Tuesday, Page confirmed his role in the 2015 Justice Department spy case, adding another twist to the still unfolding story of Trump’s peculiar and expanding ties to people connected to Russia.

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2017, 11:52:41 AM »
the Rice is boiled.

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2017, 01:09:28 PM »
This is one dishonest woman.  Didn't she just say last month that she had no idea what folks were talking about? 

Susan Rice defiant amid growing calls for her to testify under oath
By  Alex Diaz   
Published April 04, 2017
FoxNews.com
 
As Susan Rice faces growing calls to testify under oath, the former Obama administration official now accused of ordering the unmasking of Trump officials under surveillance is suggesting that she never did so for political purposes, and that it is sometimes "necessary" for investigative purposes.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a member of both the Senate Judiciary and Select Committee on Intelligence, suggested in a tweet earlier Tuesday that Rice "needs to testify under oath."
 
He included a link to a Wall Street Journal piece "Susan Rice Unmasked," a report that suggests Rice had sought the name of at least one Trump official in intelligence reports at a time when reports on Russia were reportedly being circulated broadly, according to a former intelligence official.

Responding to the accusation, Rice suggested in an interview on Tuesday that she "absolutely" did not order the unmasking of individuals for political purposes, and suggested that sometimes such a request would be necessary for an investigation.

"The allegation is that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes," Rice told MSNBC, "that is absolutely false.”

She said there were times she reviewed a report that referred to an American who was unnamed.

“And sometimes, in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information as to find out who that U.S. official was,” Rice said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who also serves on the Judiciary Committee, told Fox News earlier that while he doesn't know whether Rice acted improperly, “when it comes to Susan Rice, you need to verify, not trust.”

He said he does not want to form an opinion – just yet.

"There's a way to find out,” Graham said. “I intend to find out.”

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., took things one step further, suggesting Rice "ought to be under subpoena," adding that the stories emerging about Rice are "actually eerily similar to what Trump accused them of, which is eavesdropping on conversations for political reasons."

Paul also suggested Rice needs to be asked whether she communicated with President Obama directly about the surveillance information.
 
In a tweet earlier today, Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich also pointed out what she sees as the irony in the situation.

"Democrats have gone from: Trump is insane for suggesting Obama admin spied on him,” the tweet said, “[to] Susan Rice was just doing her job."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/04/susan-rice-defiant-amid-growing-calls-for-her-to-testify-under-oath.html

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2017, 01:28:24 PM »
She will lie just like Benghazi. 

This is one dishonest woman.  Didn't she just say last month that she had no idea what folks were talking about? 

Susan Rice defiant amid growing calls for her to testify under oath
By  Alex Diaz   
Published April 04, 2017
FoxNews.com
 
As Susan Rice faces growing calls to testify under oath, the former Obama administration official now accused of ordering the unmasking of Trump officials under surveillance is suggesting that she never did so for political purposes, and that it is sometimes "necessary" for investigative purposes.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a member of both the Senate Judiciary and Select Committee on Intelligence, suggested in a tweet earlier Tuesday that Rice "needs to testify under oath."
 
He included a link to a Wall Street Journal piece "Susan Rice Unmasked," a report that suggests Rice had sought the name of at least one Trump official in intelligence reports at a time when reports on Russia were reportedly being circulated broadly, according to a former intelligence official.

Responding to the accusation, Rice suggested in an interview on Tuesday that she "absolutely" did not order the unmasking of individuals for political purposes, and suggested that sometimes such a request would be necessary for an investigation.

"The allegation is that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes," Rice told MSNBC, "that is absolutely false.”

She said there were times she reviewed a report that referred to an American who was unnamed.

“And sometimes, in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information as to find out who that U.S. official was,” Rice said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who also serves on the Judiciary Committee, told Fox News earlier that while he doesn't know whether Rice acted improperly, “when it comes to Susan Rice, you need to verify, not trust.”

He said he does not want to form an opinion – just yet.

"There's a way to find out,” Graham said. “I intend to find out.”

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., took things one step further, suggesting Rice "ought to be under subpoena," adding that the stories emerging about Rice are "actually eerily similar to what Trump accused them of, which is eavesdropping on conversations for political reasons."

Paul also suggested Rice needs to be asked whether she communicated with President Obama directly about the surveillance information.
 
In a tweet earlier today, Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich also pointed out what she sees as the irony in the situation.

"Democrats have gone from: Trump is insane for suggesting Obama admin spied on him,” the tweet said, “[to] Susan Rice was just doing her job."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/04/susan-rice-defiant-amid-growing-calls-for-her-to-testify-under-oath.html

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2017, 01:33:37 PM »
She will lie just like Benghazi. 


Or like the time she said Bergdahl "served the United States with honor and distinction."

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2017, 01:35:09 PM »
Or like the time she said Bergdahl "served the United States with honor and distinction."

She will cry racism and morons like Option Fat, andre, and Straw will eat it up and tune in to Madcow for talking points. 

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2017, 01:48:04 PM »
Dow Jones: House Intelligence Panel Asks Former Obama Adviser Susan Rice to Testify in Ongoing Probe, Officials Say
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2017, 02:56:21 PM »
Gregg Jarrett: Did Susan Rice break the law?
By  Gregg Jarrett   
Published April 04, 2017
FoxNews.com
 
It is a tired, but apropos, joke: how do you know when a politician is lying? When his/her lips move.

Tuesday, Susan Rice was flapping her lips like a loose sail in a stiff breeze. She should have known better. Whenever she talks, trouble is sure to follow. For her.

Rice chose a benign venue in appearing on "Andrea Mitchell Reports" on MSNBC, but even that didn’t help.

The story she peddled was blatantly self-serving and punctuated with a glaring contradiction.

All of which invites the question, did she break the law in the waning days of the Obama administration when she served as National Security Adviser?

Rice denied leaking intelligence information about President Trump’s associates, yet she defended her requests to unmask the identities of U.S. citizens caught up in surveillance operations.

Here is how the law applies to Rice’s conduct. Or at least her version of it.     

Unmasking Names

Rice acknowledged in the interview with Mitchell that she requested that names be unmasked, but she insists she did not do it for political purposes. It is an important distinction.

Under the U.S. Signals Intelligence Directive (section 18), Rice was authorized to unmask the names of U.S. citizens, as long as it was essential to national security. Sure enough, Rice claims that national security was her reason. 

Here is the rub. It would be difficult for a prosecutor to prove otherwise. Likely, only Rice knows her true intent, and it is doubtful she authored a smoking-gun memo that reads, “let’s unmask these names so we can use their identities for political gain.” 

But if such an email exists or if someone were to come forward to allege that Rice verbally confided her motivation was for political reasons, then she would be looking at a serious felony punishable by up to 5 years behind bars.

Rice could face an additional problem. If she requested that a name be unmasked in a document that had nothing whatsoever to do with foreign surveillance involving national security, an argument could be made that she created a false statement in her unmasking request, which is a crime under 18 USC 1001.     

Leaking Names

Whoever leaked Michael Flynn’s name or any other names collected incidentally during surveillance, committed multiple crimes because those names are classified information.

Under 18 USC 798, it is a felony to knowingly and willfully communicate classified material to an unauthorized person.

A similar law, 50 USC 1809, forbids the unauthorized disclosure of national security information. Three other statutes may also have been violated.

The Washington Post reporter who received Flynn’s name described his source in a January 12, 2017 column as “a senior U.S. government official.” That would be a description of many people in Washington, Rice included. But she was in a unique position to have had access to what was supposed to be classified material.

Nevertheless, Rice insists she did not leak any names. Absent some proof that she is lying, she cannot be prosecuted.  However, there is ample reason for people to suspect Rice is not telling the truth.

Rice’s Changing Story

In the course of less than 2 weeks, the story Rice has told seems to have changed significantly.

On March 22, she was asked by Judy Woodruff on PBS' "NewsHour” if she knew whether “Trump transition officials, including the president, may have been swept up in surveillance of foreigners at the end of the Obama administration”.  In other words, incidental collection.

Rice responded, “I know nothing about this.”   

Yet Tuesday she reversed herself completely, claiming she knew all about it. That is, she knew of the incidental collection and, further, she is the one who requested that names be unmasked. Yes, she spoke in generalities, but is there any doubt she was referring to Trump associates?

It is an understatement to say that Susan Rice lacks credibility.  And this would not be the first time she conjured up a false narrative. 

She infamously hustled the deception that a videotape triggered the Benghazi attack in September 2012.  Later, when incriminating emails surfaced, she admitted the story was untrue.

She further tarnished her reputation when she said that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who faces charges of desertion and consorting with the enemy, served with “honor and distinction.”

Susan Rice has an abysmal track record of telling the truth. Her remarks Tuesday about the unmasking of surveillance may be another example.

Never Leaked Anything?

Rice seems to have taken her denials one step too far. During her MSNBC interview she declared, “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have.” Really?

That’s next to impossible. Is there a person in Washington who hasn’t leaked something at some time to someone? If you can find that person, we should throw a parade.

So, when Rice makes a ludicrous  statement like that, there is even more reason to doubt her veracity.

When asked if she would testify before Congress, Rice refused to answer.  I hope she has good counsel. She would be testifying under oath. It is a serious crime to lie to Congress.

My guess is she’ll do everything she can to avoid raising her right hand.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/04/04/gregg-jarrett-did-susan-rice-break-law.html

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2017, 03:09:40 PM »
She specifically asked for the names of Trump's transition team to be unmasked.  I suspect she will be taking the Fifth. . . .

11 Highlights of Susan Rice’s MSNBC Interview with Andrea Mitchell
by Joel B. Pollak
4 Apr 2017

On Tuesday afternoon, President Barack Obama’s former National Security Advisor Susan Rice appeared on MSNBC with host Andrea Mitchell to answer questions about allegations that had emerged earlier in the week to suggest that she requested the “unmasking” of the names of Donald Trump’s campaign and transition teams in intelligence reports, which allegedly had nothing to do with national security, and that she had compiled spreadsheets of those names.
Here are the highlights of Mitchell’s interview with Rice, which took up the first quarter-hour of Mitchell’s show.

1.Rice admitted asking for the names of U.S. citizens in intelligence reports to be “unmasked.” Rice said: “There were occasions when I would receive a report in which a U.S. person was referred to. Name not provided, just U.S. person. And sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request, the information as to who that U.S. official was.” Rice argued it was necessary for her and other officials to request that information, on occasion, to “do our jobs” to protect national security.

2.Rice admitted asking specifically for the names of members of Donald Trump’s transition team. She argued that she had not done so for political purposes, however. Mitchell asked: “Did you seek the names of people involved in — to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the president-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” Rice answered: “Absolutely not for any political purposes to spy, expose, anything.”

3.Rice denied leaking the name of former General Michael Flynn. “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have, and never would.” She added that to discuss particular targets would be to reveal classified information. She later walked back her denial. Mitchell: “The allegation is that you were leaking the fact that he spoke to the [Russian] ambassador and perhaps to others.” Rice: “I can’t get into any specific reports … what I can say is there is an established process.”

4.Rice denied reports that she prepared a “spreadsheet” of Trump transition staff under surveillance. Mitchell asked specifically about the Daily Caller story Tuesday: “They allege there was a spreadsheet you put out of all of these names and circulated it.” Rice: “Absolutely false. No spreadsheet, no nothing of the sort.” She said that unmasked names “was not then typically broadly disseminated throughout the national security community or the government.”

5.Rice said that even if she did request the names of citizens to be unmasked, that did not mean she leaked them.  “The notion … that by asking for the identity of an American person, that is the same as leaking it, is completely false.”

6.Rice admitted that the pace of intelligence reports accelerated throughout the election. She said she could not say whether the pace of her “unmasking” requests accelerated, but she said there was increasing concern, as well as increasing information, relating to the possibility of Russian interference in the election, particularly after August 2016.

7.Rice implied that President Obama himself ordered the compilation of intelligence reports on Trump officials. “…the president requested the compliation of the intelligence, which was ultimately provided in January [2017].”

8.Rice said that she was unaware, even while working with Flynn during the transition, that he was working for the Turkish government. Mitchell asked: “When did you learn that?” Rice answered: “In the press, as everybody else did.” Mitchell, incredulously: “You didn’t know that, when you were National Security Advisor?” Rice: “I did not.”

9.Rice reiterated that President Obama never tapped Trump’s phone. “Absolutely false … there was no such collection [or] surveillance on Trump Tower or Trump individuals …  directed by the White House or targeted at Trump individuals.” She did not deny that there might have been some surveillance by other agencies, however. She said it was impossible for the White House to order such surveillance, but that the Department of Justice could have done so.

10.Rice seemed aggrieved by Trump’s claims. “It wasn’t typical of the way presidents treat their predecessors.”

11.Rice would not say whether she would be willing to testify on Capitol Hill before Congress. “Let’s see what comes. I’m not going to sit here and prejudge,” she said. But she insisted that the investigations into Russian interference in the presidential election were of interest to every American citizen, and should be followed wherever the evidence leads.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/04/susan-rice-msnbc-interview-andrea-mitchell/

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2017, 03:26:44 PM »
She specifically asked for the names of Trump's transition team to be unmasked.  I suspect she will be taking the Fifth. . . .

11 Highlights of Susan Rice’s MSNBC Interview with Andrea Mitchell
by Joel B. Pollak
4 Apr 2017

On Tuesday afternoon, President Barack Obama’s former National Security Advisor Susan Rice appeared on MSNBC with host Andrea Mitchell to answer questions about allegations that had emerged earlier in the week to suggest that she requested the “unmasking” of the names of Donald Trump’s campaign and transition teams in intelligence reports, which allegedly had nothing to do with national security, and that she had compiled spreadsheets of those names.
Here are the highlights of Mitchell’s interview with Rice, which took up the first quarter-hour of Mitchell’s show.

1.Rice admitted asking for the names of U.S. citizens in intelligence reports to be “unmasked.” Rice said: “There were occasions when I would receive a report in which a U.S. person was referred to. Name not provided, just U.S. person. And sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request, the information as to who that U.S. official was.” Rice argued it was necessary for her and other officials to request that information, on occasion, to “do our jobs” to protect national security.

2.Rice admitted asking specifically for the names of members of Donald Trump’s transition team. She argued that she had not done so for political purposes, however. Mitchell asked: “Did you seek the names of people involved in — to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the president-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” Rice answered: “Absolutely not for any political purposes to spy, expose, anything.”

3.Rice denied leaking the name of former General Michael Flynn. “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have, and never would.” She added that to discuss particular targets would be to reveal classified information. She later walked back her denial. Mitchell: “The allegation is that you were leaking the fact that he spoke to the [Russian] ambassador and perhaps to others.” Rice: “I can’t get into any specific reports … what I can say is there is an established process.”

4.Rice denied reports that she prepared a “spreadsheet” of Trump transition staff under surveillance. Mitchell asked specifically about the Daily Caller story Tuesday: “They allege there was a spreadsheet you put out of all of these names and circulated it.” Rice: “Absolutely false. No spreadsheet, no nothing of the sort.” She said that unmasked names “was not then typically broadly disseminated throughout the national security community or the government.”

5.Rice said that even if she did request the names of citizens to be unmasked, that did not mean she leaked them.  “The notion … that by asking for the identity of an American person, that is the same as leaking it, is completely false.”

6.Rice admitted that the pace of intelligence reports accelerated throughout the election. She said she could not say whether the pace of her “unmasking” requests accelerated, but she said there was increasing concern, as well as increasing information, relating to the possibility of Russian interference in the election, particularly after August 2016.

7.Rice implied that President Obama himself ordered the compilation of intelligence reports on Trump officials. “…the president requested the compliation of the intelligence, which was ultimately provided in January [2017].”

8.Rice said that she was unaware, even while working with Flynn during the transition, that he was working for the Turkish government. Mitchell asked: “When did you learn that?” Rice answered: “In the press, as everybody else did.” Mitchell, incredulously: “You didn’t know that, when you were National Security Advisor?” Rice: “I did not.”

9.Rice reiterated that President Obama never tapped Trump’s phone. “Absolutely false … there was no such collection [or] surveillance on Trump Tower or Trump individuals …  directed by the White House or targeted at Trump individuals.” She did not deny that there might have been some surveillance by other agencies, however. She said it was impossible for the White House to order such surveillance, but that the Department of Justice could have done so.

10.Rice seemed aggrieved by Trump’s claims. “It wasn’t typical of the way presidents treat their predecessors.”

11.Rice would not say whether she would be willing to testify on Capitol Hill before Congress. “Let’s see what comes. I’m not going to sit here and prejudge,” she said. But she insisted that the investigations into Russian interference in the presidential election were of interest to every American citizen, and should be followed wherever the evidence leads.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/04/susan-rice-msnbc-interview-andrea-mitchell/

Will she be subpoenaed to testify under oath? If so, I think she will keep pleading the fifth and stating "I can't recall" (like Hillary when she replied "I don't recall" in 21 out of 25 times). More likely than not she will be called "extremely careless", unfortunately. It's very unlikely that political crime and corruption at such a high level will be punished. Laws seem to be only for mere citizens.

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2017, 03:35:48 PM »
Will she be subpoenaed to testify under oath? If so, I think she will keep pleading the fifth and stating "I can't recall" (like Hillary when she replied "I don't recall" in 21 out of 25 times). More likely than not she will be called "extremely careless", unfortunately. It's very unlikely that political crime and corruption at such a high level will be punished. Laws seem to be only for mere citizens.

Yes, she will be brought before the House/Senate Intelligence Committees, and nothing will fucking happen. I hope someone proves me wrong.



Susan Rice on Trump’s wiretapping claim: ‘Nothing of the sort occurred.’

http://archive.is/rVA3a#selection-1899.0-1915.220

Former National Security Adviser Susan Rice pushed back Wednesday against President Donald Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by the Obama administration during the 2016 election.

“Nothing of the sort occurred,” Rice told PBS NewsHour’s Judy Woodruff, in her first interview since stepping down as national security adviser when President Barack Obama left office.
Rice also took aim at the Trump White House in a Washington Post op-ed Wednesday. “False statements from the White House are part of a disturbing pattern of behavior that poses real and potentially profound dangers to U.S. national security,” Rice wrote.

In the PBS NewsHour interview, Rice, who served as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations during Obama’s first term, said the world was watching Trump’s presidency closely.
“I think the world is not impervious to what happens here in the United States,” Rice said. “On the contrary, they watch it very, very carefully.”

Her remarks came shortly after House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) met with Trump at the White House to discuss the panel’s investigation into Russia’s influence on last year’s presidential race.

Nunes told reporters after the meeting that Trump and some of his campaign officials were the subjects of ‘incidental collection’ during legal U.S. surveillance efforts of foreign targets in the months following the election.

Congressional Democrats criticized Nunes’ decision to meet with Trump. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the meeting raised doubts about the House Intelligence chairman’s ability to conduct an independent investigation into potential ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Rice also responded to Trump’s claims that the Obama administration failed to weaken ISIS.

“I think the facts don’t bear that out,” Rice said. She argued that since ISIS reached its peak in 2014, the group has lost control of 60 percent of the land it occupied in Iraq, and 30 percent of its territory in Syria.
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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2017, 04:03:51 PM »
Will she be subpoenaed to testify under oath? If so, I think she will keep pleading the fifth and stating "I can't recall" (like Hillary when she replied "I don't recall" in 21 out of 25 times). More likely than not she will be called "extremely careless", unfortunately. It's very unlikely that political crime and corruption at such a high level will be punished. Laws seem to be only for mere citizens.

I would be shocked if she or anyone else is held accountable.  The rules do not apply to everyone equally, unfortunately. 

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Re: Not Looking Good for Susan Rice
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