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[The True Adonis]

dream bmw is a 1988-1991 e31 m3

My man. 

You can always tell who knows about cars and who doesn't.  You certainly know.

[calfzilla]

What caused BMW to go from quality in the late 80s to shit in modern times?

[Skeletor]

dream bmw is a 1988-1991 e31 m3

You mean the E30 M3? E31 is the 8 series of the 90s I think. I prefer the E34 M5.

[Bevo]

What caused BMW to go from quality in the late 80s to shit in modern times?

They didn't go to complete shit, don't believe everything u read on getbig

[Bevo]

sorry ... going through car  memeory lane here

here is my m3 (I had the dbag plates ever) AMGTHIS  



it is next to my saleen extreme mustang. that car was stupid fast. 4:10 rear end.  650 hp. the saleen extreme sounded an apache helicopter. they only made around 100 of the extremes. its a 10 second car with proper set up.  its a rare mustang, a 2006 -2008 saleen extreme can stomp a hellcat

here is the same car, but 2007 in a tuner shop.

just listen to it ... it wasnt street legal when they first made them... too loud. it was a clean loud. again i am a car nut, the supercharger scream and exhaust note were fucking stupid -

U got balls putting that on your license plate

From a straight and rolling start most AMG would blow away the m3, not even close

I've owned every generation of the m3 and still have a e90 v8 and the current one is def very fast

[Bevo]

My man. 

You can always tell who knows about cars and who doesn't.  You certainly know.

U certainly don't know much about cars

[denarii]

i had a 2006 330i, there was nothing wrong with it at all. got a 2008 merc gl420 and it has had loads of electrical faults.

[Parker]

dream bmw is a 1988-1991 e31 m3

E30 is what you mean. The E31 is the 8 series.

[Skylge]

What caused BMW to go from quality in the late 80s to shit in modern times?

Quality in the eighties was much lower: build, materials, safety, emissions, fuel consuption, all much worse than in today's cars

(I've driven about 12 different types of BMW, from around 1986 till 2008)

[HTexan]

What caused BMW to go from quality in the late 80s to shit in modern times?

Like music, it was computers. Computers fuck everything pure up. 

[The_Punisher]

Had a BMW for 4 years. Big mistake. Broke down all the time and I felt sick in the stomach every time something broke, I knew I'd feel raped paying the bill. Never again.

and despite the reputation, buyers are still heading to these BMW dealershipS.....it's a status/prestige type of thing, all that matters to these buyers is that they own a BMW

[Parker]

Like music, it was computers. Computers fuck everything pure up. 

One could go further. Computers allowed BMW and other German brands to overcomplicate technology and call this "German Engineering", and not focus on engineering hardware and software for reliability.

[Skylge]

and despite the reputation, buyers are still heading to these BMW dealershipS.....it's a status/prestige type of thing, all that matters to these buyers is that they own a BMW

They never have the balls to admit that it's mainly a prestige / status thing....egotrip purchases mostly

[tres_taco_combo]

You mean the E30 M3? E31 is the 8 series of the 90s I think. I prefer the E34 M5.

you know what i mean,

that little 4 banger - id get it in red, paint the mirrors yellow - trust me

[tres_taco_combo]

U got balls putting that on your license plate

From a straight and rolling start most AMG would blow away the m3, not even close

I've owned every generation of the m3 and still have a e90 v8 and the current one is def very fast

i was 23 or 24  and extra douchey 

my saleen extreme would stomp any AMG car at the time. 0-60 times were in the high 3s (with a good driver - i am semi average - being honest)

my M3 was the handling fun car, while my saleen was the stoplight bully

[tres_taco_combo]

You mean the E30 M3? E31 is the 8 series of the 90s I think. I prefer the E34 M5.

the 850CSI were pretty sleek, most of the time it was an 840CI with an automatic trans

I just feel bmw is more tech car first, lux car second, drivers car 3rd

gt350s Roush mustangs are so much more fun to drive than any BMW today plus no headaches either.  m4 seems dull after being in a mean american V8, the new SS Camero is way more fun than the m3/m4 ... coming from a german guy who loved BMW too.

[tres_taco_combo]

What caused BMW to go from quality in the late 80s to shit in modern times?

bmw are just boring these days

[Parker]

i was 23 or 24  and extra douchey 

my saleen extreme would stomp any AMG car at the time. 0-60 times were in the high 3s (with a good driver - i am semi average - being honest)

my M3 was the handling fun car, while my saleen was the stoplight bully

That saleen in the vid had crappy brakes for the amount of horsepower it was putting down. Look like the brakes off of a standard Mustang GT. With 650 hp, 0-60 should be low 3s.

[HTexan]

That saleen in the vid had crappy brakes for the amount of horsepower it was putting down. Look like the brakes off of a standard Mustang GT. With 650 hp, 0-60 should be low 3s.

Current GTs come with non-branded 4 pistons brembos now, so ford learn to outsource if you can't do something right. 

[Bevo]

That saleen in the vid had crappy brakes for the amount of horsepower it was putting down. Look like the brakes off of a standard Mustang GT. With 650 hp, 0-60 should be low 3s.

Low 3's maybe... but easier said than done, first it's a manual not dct or 8 spds used today which are faster, the car is heavy, depends on the tires, and a good launch

Compare the 0-60 times of a z06 with 650 hp to a Porsche gt3rs with 500, the Porsche is quicker than the vette and through the quarter mile by a nudge if I'm not mistaken

Lots of factors go into a car besides hp

[Twaddle]

Low 3's maybe... but easier said than done, first it's a manual not dct or 8 spds used today which are faster, the car is heavy, depends on the tires, and a good launch

Compare the 0-60 times of a z06 with 650 hp to a Porsche gt3rs with 500, the Porsche is quicker than the vette and through the quarter mile by a nudge if I'm not mistaken

Lots of factors go into a car besides hp

Give the tires a good coating of honey before launching.  That should get you into the low 3's no problem.   

[tres_taco_combo]

That saleen in the vid had crappy brakes for the amount of horsepower it was putting down. Look like the brakes off of a standard Mustang GT. With 650 hp, 0-60 should be low 3s.

yea. prolly didnt get the upgraded brake option. i remember my front brakes were 14 inches big dawgs.

[tres_taco_combo]

Low 3's maybe... but easier said than done, first it's a manual not dct or 8 spds used today which are faster, the car is heavy, depends on the tires, and a good launch

Compare the 0-60 times of a z06 with 650 hp to a Porsche gt3rs with 500, the Porsche is quicker than the vette and through the quarter mile by a nudge if I'm not mistaken

Lots of factors go into a car besides hp

yep, hitting top speed records the magazines do is fucking hard. as i stated i am not a great driver.


a GT500 or saleen extreme (practically the same car)  GT500 blasts from 0-60 mph in a scant 3.5 seconds, on toward a quarter-mile time of 11.6 seconds.

for the price of juicy new mustang, nothing comes close. the GT350 flat crank v8 is nuts. redlines at 8250 rpms


back to the topic at hand
1. buy the lowest mile BMW you can even if it is more expensive cuz shop repairs get old fast
2. get a private party inspection
3. do not go to the dealership for work unless covered by warrenty find a good indi shop
4. find a good bmw forum.  they are a great spot of knowledge, car forums and bbing forums are full of haters and trolls, but motorcycle forums arent, which is funny
5. if you buy, try to buy one that is 3 years old (aka a lease return) the depreciation has sunk in, put down 20% and finance the rest. interest rates are cheap 3-5% on used cars


consider a new VW over a used BMW - FACT

[tres_taco_combo]

Never overlook an aftermarket warranty. Learned a lot about them while looking at benz's a cpl yrs ago. (Not sure about bmw, but for an s550 Benz with say 50k miles, you can pick up a warranty for $1200. If your air-ride goes out from getting something jammed in the door or trunk while its closing and airpump will cost you an easy 1600-2100. Not to mention shit like control arms or suspension parts. Warranty pays for itself, but there's mileage cutoffs. I believe 70k for Benz for instance)

my 740i had so many damn suspension issues and brushing issues.

"its a heavy car" they kept telling me. my 7 series i picked up a high mile that was several years old. i wanted a big 4 door sedan. it was a lincoln LS or this 7 series.

i will never buy a high mile euro sedan ever again.. it became a project car   not by choice

not my 7 series, photo ganked from google images*







if you are a BMW fan in the early 2000s you will remember these BMW films. this film made me want a 7 so bad. i had the exact color and model. 2001 sport short wheel base the sport trans.  

my first gf was this tiny Puerto rican chic and she would drive my 7 series when she would go to costco and shit. she looked so funny in it  

the did a BMW film with an m5 and madonna too. her bf/husband did the film.

[Palumboism]

Like music, it was computers. Computers fuck everything pure up. 

EFI and the engine control unit have been the greatest automotive developments in the last 30 years.