Syria gas attacks..... anyone else smell something fishy?

[TuHolmes]

Sorry, run into what area?

White helmets were the ones who were on the scene of the gas attack. Twenty four hours before said attack, a journalist in Syria tweeted about it happening.

Interesting.

Can you point to the journalist? I just want to read that.

I was mistaken, I thought you meant they went in after, but you're saying they were there before. That's highly suspect of course. I wish someone had taken some pictures.

[Top Poodle]

Interesting.

Can you point to the journalist? I just want to read that.

I was mistaken, I thought you meant they went in after, but you're saying they were there before. That's highly suspect of course. I wish someone had taken some pictures.

Some of the pictures just seem *too* perfect.

Almost as if they were planted by a PR firm....

[TuHolmes]

Some of the pictures just seem *too* perfect.

Almost as if they were planted by a PR firm....

Everyone has an angle.

[bozo_the_rot]

No, you're wrong.

Yesterday's bombing of the airfield was not a direct attack.  No casualties, Russian and Syrian forces were warned, US sends a message it's not to be fucked with, all the while Trump is meeting with China's president, who's causing trouble offshore in the sea.

It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.  Trump and American couldn't have just let this slide.  But by bombing this single airfield, damaging what, some fucking concrete?  You're not escalating, but you're giving an appropriate response.  To whoever was behind the chemical attacks.

(Ie, there's no way Trump can actually think Assad was responsible.  Yet he can't go out and say that.  So he authorizes the strike, takes no casualties, shows American strength and none of that bullshit pussy-footing around, the fake lying media who wants to claim it's Assad gets to now see a response, the ones who know the truth -- or even if they don't know, suspect -- are assuaged by the fact the strike didn't actually kill people)

This x1000
Americans have to at least feel a sense of pride over this.
My gosh....who gives a fuck....rebels, Assad.....Russia
Guess what, American will not be fucked with anymore.
If America was a cock, it found some cialis/levitea and has found some blood flow again.
Holy shit, Obama turned it into a floppy flaccid cock
Not anymore

[El Diablo Blanco]

The war machine is just getting started. A couple retard US senators already started blaming Iran with no proof , link or evidence.  Fuckers are just hungry for a war. 

[Parker]

No, you're wrong.

Yesterday's bombing of the airfield was not a direct attack.  No casualties, Russian and Syrian forces were warned, US sends a message it's not to be fucked with, all the while Trump is meeting with China's president, who's causing trouble offshore in the sea.

It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.  Trump and American couldn't have just let this slide.  But by bombing this single airfield, damaging what, some fucking concrete?  You're not escalating, but you're giving an appropriate response.  To whoever was behind the chemical attacks.

(Ie, there's no way Trump can actually think Assad was responsible.  Yet he can't go out and say that.  So he authorizes the strike, takes no casualties, shows American strength and none of that bullshit pussy-footing around, the fake lying media who wants to claim it's Assad gets to now see a response, the ones who know the truth -- or even if they don't know, suspect -- are assuaged by the fact the strike didn't actually kill people)

There were casualties.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/syria-attack-children-civilian-killed-580555%3Famp%3D1

[Parker]

Why does the world need the US to respond though?

Let someone else do it. The one thing I always agreed with Trump on was stop being the police of the world and he just decided to toss that out the window.

It doesn't show anything. The world already knew we had the biggest military and the most hardware. They didn't need a reminder and it didn't change anything.

Maybe because noone else will or has the stones to? China wants to be top dog, but they don't want to responsibility that comes with it. Neither does Russia, UK, Japan, France, Germany, none of the countries of the Middle East.

[denarii]

They will start a ground war involving PMCs lead by Erik Prince
 

[TuHolmes]

Maybe because noone else will or has the stones to? China wants to be top dog, but they don't want to responsibility that comes with it. Neither does Russia, UK, Japan, France, Germany, none of the countries of the Middle East.

Stones?

Does it really take stones to get involved in other people's business?

I say no.

The US is not the world police.

[Parker]

Stones?

Does it really take stones to get involved in other people's business?

I say no.

The US is not the world police.

Like it or not, the US is the World's Police. There is a cost to be the boss.  The UN is weak. Hell, they can't stop the situation in South Sudan...yeah, people forget about that because it Africa.
Plus, let's not forget which administration encourage this whole Arab Spring, which has for the most part seemed to have turned into a disaster, and birthed ISIS, and created the situation in Syria.
So, yeah. I do agree with you on we need to mind our own business, but it should be situation by situation. Especially when you read headlines like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/10/un-says-world-faces-largest-humanitarian-crisis-since-1945/
For instance, the starving of people in South Sudan, and other places in Africa and Yemen, is a dire humanitarian situation
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/africa/south-sudans-people-are-starving-and-fighters-are-blocking-aid/2017/03/31/69ef31c2-0f60-11e7-aa57-2ca1b05c41b8_story.html

I believe one of Bill Clinton's regrets is not doing anything when the Rwanda genocide occurred.

[CalvinH]

Sweet,some more dead muslims

[TuHolmes]

Like it or not, the US is the World's Police. There is a cost to be the boss.  The UN is weak. Hell, they can't stop the situation in South Sudan...yeah, people forget about that because it Africa.
Plus, let's not forget which administration encourage this whole Arab Spring, which has for the most part seemed to have turned into a disaster, and birthed ISIS, and created the situation in Syria.
So, yeah. I do agree with you on we need to mind our own business, but it should be situation by situation. Especially when you read headlines like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/10/un-says-world-faces-largest-humanitarian-crisis-since-1945/
For instance, the starving of people in South Sudan, and other places in Africa and Yemen, is a dire humanitarian situation
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/africa/south-sudans-people-are-starving-and-fighters-are-blocking-aid/2017/03/31/69ef31c2-0f60-11e7-aa57-2ca1b05c41b8_story.html

I believe one of Bill Clinton's regrets is not doing anything when the Rwanda genocide occurred.

I don't like it which is why I vote against candidates that keep trying to be that.


It's bullshit.

[Nails]

So we bombed syria, to teach the bombers that bombed syria not to bomb syria or else they will bomb syria again

'Only I can fix this syrian problem, only i. Nobody else can only me." - trump

So his way of fixing it was to bomb them like every other dipshit in office

[Yamcha]

So we bombed syria, to teach the bombers that bombed syria not to bomb syria or else they will bomb syria again

'Only I can fix this syrian problem, only i. Nobody else can only me." - trump

So his way of fixing it was to bomb them like every other dipshit in office

Yes, it's a shame it wasn't a nuke that strayed off course and hit Israel.

[bozo_the_rot]

So we bombed syria, to teach the bombers that bombed syria not to bomb syria or else they will bomb syria again

'Only I can fix this syrian problem, only i. Nobody else can only me." - trump

So his way of fixing it was to bomb them like every other dipshit in office

This wasn't just "bombing" Syria.
Wouldn't you agree that this was a perfect opportunity to display an array of change?
This was an example to Russia, and the world that the USA isn't full of shit anymore.
All World Leaders back the move.
Showing the world that the USA will not be bullied by Russia mostly.
That is the key take away here.

[Nails]

[Zillotch]

Sweet,some more dead muslims

what a fantastic post.

[bozo_the_rot]

Yes! Exactly
He killed 2 birds with 59 tomahawks to the face

[Parker]

I don't like it which is why I vote against candidates that keep trying to be that.


It's bullshit.

It won't change. When you have the big guns, you are a force. Depending on the situation, if you back down, others will think that you are weak. And that means that you are a target, and your citizens are even more targets than they are now, at home and abroad. Because, you won't do anything, or will hesitate to do anything, because you don't want to get into a position where you must "sort things out".

[bozo_the_rot]

the responce suggests the Trump administration is more concerned with appearence than with reality

Do you think a telegraphed move by Russia sending a warship to the Mediterranean is more for "appearance"

Or do you actually think it is going to fire a missile off?

Appearance means a lot

US is ready to ball out against anyone and it is being displayed.

Trump is calling Putins bluff in front of the entire world.

[Parker]

Do you think a telegraphed move by Russia sending a warship to the Mediterranean is more for "appearance"

Or do you actually think it is going to fire a missile off?

Appearance means a lot

US is ready to ball out against anyone and it is being displayed.

Trump is calling Putins bluff in front of the entire world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat_diplomacy

[bozo_the_rot]

Aside from the fact that Putin does strategy while Trump plays tactics Russia has always had a right to access the Mediterranian - it is its only all year round ocean access route. Russia has a military base in Syria  - understanding this is key to understanding why the Assad regime is being propped up by Russia just as numerous nasty regimes were /are propped up by the USA .

My comment about appearence and reality is inrespect of the Trump administration - many if not most of its domestic actions seem to have more style than content

Which begs the question...
Did Putin allow this chemical attack to happen...
Did he give the ok?

[Parker]

Which begs the question...
Did Putin allow this chemical attack to happen...
Did he give the ok?

Could it be a game, in which he is tired of Assad, so let the Americans eventually take him out, protest all the way, and look like they are all against it. And when everything is said and done, they get a strategic area in the Middle East. And then they can handle ISIS terrorists like they want to. And the US gets to projects power, and possibly being the bad guy, and the Russians don't have to really lift a finger and avoid war with the US.

[bozo_the_rot]

Could it be a game, in which he is tired of Assad, so let the Americans eventually take him out, protest all the way, and look like they are all against it. And when everything is said and done, they get a strategic area in the Middle East. And then they can handle ISIS terrorists like they want to. And the US gets to projects power, and possibly being the bad guy, and the Russians don't have to really lift a finger and avoid war with the US.

That would be very nice.

[Parker]

That would be very nice.

I forgot, also Russia controlling that pipeline and resources in Syria