The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)

[Agnostic007]

Yep, I was right. Completely unrelated. You do seem to turn a lot of topics to your favorite obsessions (Trump and Christians).

No, you were wrong... you were trying to say a certain group wants X. You could replace that group with Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim etc and it would still be accurate, rendering your original concept meaningless.  But if you want to feel you are right. go for it, doesn't cost a thing

[Yamcha]

No, you were wrong... you were trying to say a certain group wants X. You could replace that group with Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim etc and it would still be accurate, rendering your original concept meaningless.  But if you want to feel you are right. go for it, doesn't cost a thing

Get that Pseudo-intellectual vomit out of here

[Agnostic007]

Get that Pseudo-intellectual vomit out of here

another great contribution. I see your name as the last poster and I can't wait to read what inspiring contribution or picture you've posted to add to the conversation. Never disappoint.

[mazrim]

No, you were wrong... you were trying to say a certain group wants X. You could replace that group with Republican, Democrat, Christian, Muslim etc and it would still be accurate, rendering your original concept meaningless.  But if you want to feel you are right. go for it, doesn't cost a thing

How can I be wrong about something I never posted? Why are you projecting your thought process on mine? Should I switch the wording to "agnostics" now? Where was the exclusivity in that post. That being besides the point that my post was a joking/sarcastic reply to Prime implying two heterosexual males should get married.

Also, you posted that I am right in saying a certain group wants x (subject matter is key here in reading my post and who I am replying to) in one post and now say that I was wrong because other groups do as well. That is a rather apparent contradiction. One doesn't negate the other. I hope this isn't how you did detective work.

[Dos Equis]

Yep, I was right. Completely unrelated. You do seem to turn a lot of topics to your favorite obsessions (Trump and Christians).

Correct.

[Agnostic007]

Yep, I was right. Completely unrelated. You do seem to turn a lot of topics to your favorite obsessions (Trump and Christians).

Gee... we're on the political board... imagine that...

[Agnostic007]

Correct.

LOL! 

[chaos]

Why do homosexuals liberal cops think we all want to be like them and try and push their thought process on the rest of us?

[Agnostic007]

Now you're catching on. It could be conservative red necks, just about any group.

[Yamcha]

A new report from John Solomon of The Hill ties together several loose threads floating around over the genesis of the FBI/DOJ espionage operation against the Trump campaign, who was involved in the "setup" of campaign aides, and how text messages between FBI employees suggest that the Obama White House was not only aware of the operation - but possibly directing it.

Not only is the timeline moved up from the summer of 2016 to spring, Solomon provides clarification on early contacts between the players involved in DOJ/FBI sting and Trump campaign aides.

>The bridge to the Russia investigation wasn’t erected in Moscow during the summer of the 2016 election.

>It originated earlier, 1,700 miles away in London, where foreign figures contacted Trump campaign advisers and provided the FBI with hearsay allegations of Trump-Russia collusion, bureau documents and interviews of government insiders reveal. These contacts in spring 2016 — some from trusted intelligence sources, others from Hillary Clinton supporters — occurred well before FBI headquarters authorized an official counterintelligence investigation on July 31, 2016.

>The new timeline makes one wonder: Did the FBI follow its rules governing informants? -The Hill

“The revelation of purposeful contact initiated by alleged confidential human sources prior to any FBI investigation is troublesome,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), an ally of President Trump and chairman of a House subcommittee that’s taking an increasingly aggressive oversight role in the scandal, told me. “This new information begs the questions: Who were the informants working for, who were they reporting to and why has the [Department of Justice] and FBI gone to such great lengths to hide these contacts?”

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/390228-london-bridges-falling-down-curious-origins-of-fbis-trump-russia-probe

Retired assistant FBI director for intelligence Kevin Brock also has questions. Brock supervised an agency update to their longstanding bureau rules governing the use of sources while working under then-director Robert Mueller. These rules prohibit the FBI from directing a human source to perform espionage on an American until a formal investigation has been opened - paperwork and all.

Brock sees oddities in how the Russia case began.

>“These types of investigations aren’t normally run by assistant directors and deputy directors at headquarters,”

>“All that happens normally in a field office, but that isn’t the case here and so it becomes a red flag. Congress would have legitimate oversight interests in the conditions and timing of the targeting of a confidential human source against a U.S. person.”
-The Hill

[Yamcha]

 

[chaos]

Not breaking news according to Conker

[Yamcha]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who has been indicted by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, attempted to tamper with potential witnesses, Mueller said in a court filing on Monday.

>FBI Special Agent Brock Domin, in a declaration filed with Mueller’s motion, said Manafort had attempted to call, text and send encrypted messages in February to two people from “The Hapsburg Group,” a firm he worked with to promote the interests of Ukraine.

[Dos Equis]

Friggin circus witch hunt. 

[Yamcha]

Bump!

[Yamcha]

Funny that the media didn't report on this. Part of Gowdy's questioning yesterday.

[jude2]

Funny that the media didn't report on this. Part of Gowdy's questioning yesterday.

Crazy that this is true.

[Dos Equis]

Funny that the media didn't report on this. Part of Gowdy's questioning yesterday.

I want to say I'm shocked if this is true.  But I'm not.

[SOMEPARTS]

I want to say I'm shocked if this is true.  But I'm not.

IF ... true .. then that investigation is over.

[Yamcha]

Crazy that this is true.

I want to say I'm shocked if this is true.  But I'm not.

IF ... true .. then that investigation is over.

Well, we know the name of one now.

House GOPer unmasks identities of anti-Trump FBI agents


https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/house-goper-unmasks-identities-of-anti-trump-fbi-agents/

The previously unnamed FBI officials — “FBI Attorney 2” and “Agent 5” — are Kevin Clinesmith and Sally Moyer, respectively, according to House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC), who revealed their identities over the objection of the FBI during a hearing on the IG’s findings.

The two were assigned to the bureau’s Hillary Clinton email investigation, according to the IG’s report, while Clinesmith also later worked as a top lawyer on the Trump-Russia investigation and the special-counsel probe.

Clinesmith sent a number of pro-Clinton, anti-Trump political messages over the FBI’s computer system, which the report said “raised concerns about potential bias” that may have impacted the investigation. Likewise, the report cited Moyer rooting for Clinton and bashing Trump during the 2016 campaign.

Meadows said the pair was among five FBI officials Justice Department IG Michael Horowitz referred for investigation after additional anti-Trump messages surfaced.

All five worked on the Clinton case, accounting for one-third of the 15 who were assigned to the investigation. One was Peter Strzok, who was kicked off the special-counsel team last year and escorted from the FBI headquarters building Friday as part of internal discipline proceedings. He and his mistress, Lisa Page, who left the bureau last month, also supervised the Trump-Russia investigation.

[Yamcha]

Well, we know the name of one now.

House GOPer unmasks identities of anti-Trump FBI agents


https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/house-goper-unmasks-identities-of-anti-trump-fbi-agents/

The previously unnamed FBI officials — “FBI Attorney 2” and “Agent 5” — are Kevin Clinesmith and Sally Moyer, respectively, according to House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC), who revealed their identities over the objection of the FBI during a hearing on the IG’s findings.

The two were assigned to the bureau’s Hillary Clinton email investigation, according to the IG’s report, while Clinesmith also later worked as a top lawyer on the Trump-Russia investigation and the special-counsel probe.

Clinesmith sent a number of pro-Clinton, anti-Trump political messages over the FBI’s computer system, which the report said “raised concerns about potential bias” that may have impacted the investigation. Likewise, the report cited Moyer rooting for Clinton and bashing Trump during the 2016 campaign.

Meadows said the pair was among five FBI officials Justice Department IG Michael Horowitz referred for investigation after additional anti-Trump messages surfaced.

All five worked on the Clinton case, accounting for one-third of the 15 who were assigned to the investigation. One was Peter Strzok, who was kicked off the special-counsel team last year and escorted from the FBI headquarters building Friday as part of internal discipline proceedings. He and his mistress, Lisa Page, who left the bureau last month, also supervised the Trump-Russia investigation.

Still no peep of this in the MSM. You'd think the reporting widespread corruption at the highest levels of government would be of interest to them and their viewers...

[Skeletor]

Well, we know the name of one now.

House GOPer unmasks identities of anti-Trump FBI agents


https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/house-goper-unmasks-identities-of-anti-trump-fbi-agents/

The previously unnamed FBI officials — “FBI Attorney 2” and “Agent 5” — are Kevin Clinesmith and Sally Moyer, respectively, according to House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC), who revealed their identities over the objection of the FBI during a hearing on the IG’s findings.

The two were assigned to the bureau’s Hillary Clinton email investigation, according to the IG’s report, while Clinesmith also later worked as a top lawyer on the Trump-Russia investigation and the special-counsel probe.

Clinesmith sent a number of pro-Clinton, anti-Trump political messages over the FBI’s computer system, which the report said “raised concerns about potential bias” that may have impacted the investigation. Likewise, the report cited Moyer rooting for Clinton and bashing Trump during the 2016 campaign.

Meadows said the pair was among five FBI officials Justice Department IG Michael Horowitz referred for investigation after additional anti-Trump messages surfaced.

All five worked on the Clinton case, accounting for one-third of the 15 who were assigned to the investigation. One was Peter Strzok, who was kicked off the special-counsel team last year and escorted from the FBI headquarters building Friday as part of internal discipline proceedings. He and his mistress, Lisa Page, who left the bureau last month, also supervised the Trump-Russia investigation.

This is insane. So out of all the people assigned to the investigations, how many have not exhibited political bias? These are the people who are supposed to represent and uphold “fidelity” and “integrity”?

[Soul Crusher]

Obama’s Cyber Chief: Susan Rice Gave ‘Stand Down’ Order In Response To Russian Meddling
The Daily Caller ^ | 06/21/2018 | Chuck Ross
Posted on 6/21/2018, 12:48:32 PM by detective

Former President Barack Obama’s cybersecurity czar confirmed Wednesday that former national security adviser Susan Rice told him to “stand down” in response to Russian cyber attacks during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Michael Daniel, whose official title was “cybersecurity coordinator,” confirmed the stand-down order during a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing held to review the Obama and President Donald Trump’s administrations’ policy response to Russian election interference.

Rice’s order to Daniel was first reported in “Russian Roulette,” a book published in March that details Russia’s meddling in the election.

In the book, authors Michael Isikoff and David Corn reported that Daniel was developing strategies to respond to Russian cyber attacks on U.S. companies and political campaigns. He proposed using what’s known as denial of service attacks to take down Russian propaganda news sites and to attack Russian intelligence agencies

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

[mazrim]

Obama’s Cyber Chief: Susan Rice Gave ‘Stand Down’ Order In Response To Russian Meddling
The Daily Caller ^ | 06/21/2018 | Chuck Ross
Posted on 6/21/2018, 12:48:32 PM by detective

Former President Barack Obama’s cybersecurity czar confirmed Wednesday that former national security adviser Susan Rice told him to “stand down” in response to Russian cyber attacks during the 2016 presidential campaign.

Michael Daniel, whose official title was “cybersecurity coordinator,” confirmed the stand-down order during a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing held to review the Obama and President Donald Trump’s administrations’ policy response to Russian election interference.

Rice’s order to Daniel was first reported in “Russian Roulette,” a book published in March that details Russia’s meddling in the election.

In the book, authors Michael Isikoff and David Corn reported that Daniel was developing strategies to respond to Russian cyber attacks on U.S. companies and political campaigns. He proposed using what’s known as denial of service attacks to take down Russian propaganda news sites and to attack Russian intelligence agencies

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

Imagine the relative unity of the country if most news was reported correctly/without bias, etc. A lot more people would be on the same page on a lot of obvious issues. Blaming Trump and pushing that narrative when it all falls at Obama's feet.

[Soul Crusher]

Nose Dive: After A Year, Support For The Russia Probe Has Plummeted
Townhall.com ^ | June 22, 2018 | Matt Vespa
Posted on 6/22/2018, 8:20:28 AM by Kaslin



The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice’s woes are not over. Inspector General Michael Horowitz released a damning report that justified President Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey, whose actions during the 2016 election were labeled as extraordinary and insubordinate, and outlined various issues with the FBI, which has a huge problem with leaks. The report was on the activities of the DOJ, FBI, and its principles during the Hillary Clinton email investigation. It was a criminal investigation into whether she mishandled classified information through her unauthorized and unsecure email server while serving as our secretary of state under Obama.

There’s also the issue of bias. Now, the IG report said that bias did not impact the outcome of the investigation, meaning a) the investigation could be completed without issue in general; and b) the bias did not impact it in a way that produced partisan outcomes. That’s very different than saying there was no bias. There were at least five FBI officials who exhibited anti-Trump bias; you already know FBI agent Peter Strzok and bureau lawyer Lisa Page. The two had an extramarital affair, sent tens of thousands of texts that were anti-Trump, and discussed how they would stop Trump. Oh, and how the bureau might be going too hard on Hillary Clinton as well.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is now helming the FBI investigation into Russian collusion that is said to have begun in July of 2016. After a year, two things have happened. They have not found a shred of evidence supporting the allegation that the Trump team colluded with the Russians—and support for the investigation has plummeted. There’s been a near 20-point drop from last year (via NTK Network):

“A special counsel is currently conducting an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible links with the Trump campaign. Should the Russia investigation continue or should it end?” pollsters asked 806 Americans.

The Monmouth poll found only 52 percent of Americans support the continuation of the Mueller probe, down from 73 percent in May 2017, when the investigation was still under the purview of the FBI.

Meanwhile, the number of Americans who support ending the investigation has risen to 45 percent, from 24 percent in May 2017.

The poll was taken from June 12 to June 13, just days before the Department of Justice Inspector General released a report revealing a number of FBI agents involved in the Trump probe held significant animus against the soon-to-be president.

Are people thinking this is a witch-hunt? For Trump’s base, yes—absolutely, but there’s also the other aspect that this has run its course. Voters don’t care about Russia. They’re tired of it. And with no evidence to support a Manchurian Candidate-like plot, maybe it’s time to close up shop. And yes, it is time for this probe to end.

Trump's 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale, said it was time to not only end the investigation, but fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Time to fire Sessions

End the Mueller investigation

You can’t obstruct something that was phony against you

The IG report gives @realDonaldTrump the truth to end it all.— Brad Parscale (@parscale) June 19, 2018