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« Reply #250 on: November 08, 2017, 01:36:18 PM »

You need to become a comedian.

Isn't he already a comedian? Do you mean he's actually serious?
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« Reply #251 on: November 13, 2017, 05:18:29 PM »

Another useless fact to prove a nonexistent nutty conspiracy theory.

Donald Trump Jr. Messaged With WikiLeaks During Presidential Campaign
The messages were handed over to congressional investigators probing Russia’s influence on the 2016 election.
POLITICS 11/13/2017
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-wikileaks_us_5a0a1277e4b0bc648a0d431e?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
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« Reply #252 on: December 01, 2017, 08:42:41 AM »

Michael Flynn charged with making false statements to the FBI: Documents
ABC News ^ | December 1, 2017 | ADAM KELSEY and VERONICA STRACQUALURSI
Posted on 12/1/2017, 9:24:47 AM by E. Pluribus Unum

Michael Flynn, the former Trump national security adviser who was dismissed earlier this year, was charged with making false statements to the FBI Friday, becoming the latest associate of the president's to face charges related to the special counsel probe.

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« Reply #253 on: December 01, 2017, 09:02:18 AM »

Donnie is finished
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« Reply #254 on: December 01, 2017, 11:52:19 AM »

Flynn coordinated Russia call with senior transition official, prosecutors say
The Hill ^ | December 1, 2017 | Katie Bo Williams
Posted on 12/1/2017, 12:17:26 PM by Pinkbell

Former national security advisor Michael Flynn spoke with a "senior official" in President’s Trump's transition team at the Mar-a-Lago resort to discuss what he should communicate to the Russian ambassador in a highly-scrutinized series of phone calls in December of 2016, according to federal prosecutors.

Flynn and the senior officials discussed both the recently implemented U.S. sanctions on Russia, as well as the fact that they did not want Russia to escalate friction between the two nations, lawyers on special counsel Robert Mueller's team told a federal judge Friday. 

After the discussion, Flynn telephoned the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak. Afterwards, he called the senior transition official and reported the sanctions discussion, prosecutors said.

Kislyak later followed up with Flynn and affirmed that Russia would moderate its response to the sanctions, put in place by then-President Obama. Flynn communicated that exchange to other transition officials, prosecutors said. 

Flynn on Friday pleaded guilty to one count of providing false statements to federal investigators, thereby admitting to the charges made by Mueller's prosecutors.

According to court documents filed by Mueller, Flynn lied when he told investigators that he did not ask Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation" in response to sanctions that Obama had levied on the Russian Federation.

Flynn also lied, the counsel said, when Flynn said he did not ask the ambassador to either delay or defeat a related U.N. Security Council vote.   Prosecutors told Judge Rudolph Contreras that Flynn was told by the senior member of Trump transition team to reach out to other countries to influence the U.N. vote, in an effort to delay or defeat the resolution.

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« Reply #255 on: December 01, 2017, 12:33:10 PM »

Did you crawl out from under a rock this week or what?  ^^
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« Reply #256 on: December 01, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »

A feather in Mueller's cap, but doesn't provide a scintilla of proof that Trump conspired with Russia to get elected president so he could become a Russian puppet.  

That makes two indictments and two convictions having nothing to do with this asinine conspiracy theory.  
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« Reply #257 on: December 01, 2017, 01:19:08 PM »


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LOL If it was Obama admin, im sure it would be crystal clear.
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« Reply #258 on: December 01, 2017, 01:25:16 PM »


LOL If it was Obama admin, im sure it would be crystal clear.

Of course! obama farting in that tacky couch cushin was a clear crime just the same 
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« Reply #259 on: December 01, 2017, 01:39:15 PM »

Flynn coordinated Russia call with senior transition official, prosecutors say
The Hill ^ | December 1, 2017 | Katie Bo Williams
Posted on 12/1/2017, 12:17:26 PM by Pinkbell

Former national security advisor Michael Flynn spoke with a "senior official" in President’s Trump's transition team at the Mar-a-Lago resort to discuss what he should communicate to the Russian ambassador in a highly-scrutinized series of phone calls in December of 2016, according to federal prosecutors.

Flynn and the senior officials discussed both the recently implemented U.S. sanctions on Russia, as well as the fact that they did not want Russia to escalate friction between the two nations, lawyers on special counsel Robert Mueller's team told a federal judge Friday. 

After the discussion, Flynn telephoned the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak. Afterwards, he called the senior transition official and reported the sanctions discussion, prosecutors said.

Kislyak later followed up with Flynn and affirmed that Russia would moderate its response to the sanctions, put in place by then-President Obama. Flynn communicated that exchange to other transition officials, prosecutors said. 

Flynn on Friday pleaded guilty to one count of providing false statements to federal investigators, thereby admitting to the charges made by Mueller's prosecutors.

According to court documents filed by Mueller, Flynn lied when he told investigators that he did not ask Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation" in response to sanctions that Obama had levied on the Russian Federation.

Flynn also lied, the counsel said, when Flynn said he did not ask the ambassador to either delay or defeat a related U.N. Security Council vote.   Prosecutors told Judge Rudolph Contreras that Flynn was told by the senior member of Trump transition team to reach out to other countries to influence the U.N. vote, in an effort to delay or defeat the resolution.

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Come on, you're a lawyer, right? It is a crime to lie to the FBI.

https://www.quora.com/Is-lying-to-the-FBI-during-an-investigation-a-serious-crime

"18 USC 1001, 5 years for lying to any federal agent or officer about a material matter within their jurisdiction."

"Note that you don’t have to be under oath to be charged, and a simple denial, like “I didn’t do it,” when in fact you did, is enough to trigger the charge."
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« Reply #260 on: December 01, 2017, 01:58:55 PM »

Yes ling to feds is a crime.  I'm talking about the other stuff

Come on, you're a lawyer, right? It is a crime to lie to the FBI.

https://www.quora.com/Is-lying-to-the-FBI-during-an-investigation-a-serious-crime

"18 USC 1001, 5 years for lying to any federal agent or officer about a material matter within their jurisdiction."

"Note that you don’t have to be under oath to be charged, and a simple denial, like “I didn’t do it,” when in fact you did, is enough to trigger the charge."
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« Reply #261 on: December 01, 2017, 01:59:34 PM »

A feather in Mueller's cap, but doesn't provide a scintilla of proof that Trump conspired with Russia to get elected president so he could be come a Russian puppet.  

That makes two indictments and two convictions having nothing to do with this asinine conspiracy theory.  

yeah, two cooperating witnesses

nothing to worry about there Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Mueller could have (and still can) charge Flynn with other crimes.

The likely reason of only this single charge (with sentencing not scheduled for over a year) is almost certainly due to Flynn providing as much cooperation as possible for other charges against ...?



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« Reply #262 on: December 01, 2017, 02:01:53 PM »

Of course! obama farting in that tacky couch cushin was a clear crime just the same 

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« Reply #263 on: December 01, 2017, 03:11:40 PM »

https://ntknetwork.com/leon-panetta-its-a-stretch-to-say-trump-team-broke-law-with-russian-contacts

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« Reply #264 on: December 01, 2017, 05:06:44 PM »

http://www.dailywire.com/news/24222/fake-news-abc-news-makes-huge-mistake-report-flynn-ryan-saavedra
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« Reply #265 on: December 01, 2017, 05:19:35 PM »

Man, I can't believing you people spend all this time debating political topics.

None of you will ever know the full truth, as it's filtered through many mediums. You're only giving partial truths. We are all partial knowers.

Do any of you actually believe that what you post is the "truth?"
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« Reply #266 on: December 01, 2017, 05:25:14 PM »

Man, I can't believing you people spend all this time debating political topics.

None of you will ever know the full truth, as it's filtered through many mediums. You're only giving partial truths. We are all partial knowers.

Do any of you actually believe that what you post is the "truth?"

You miss the point of the board.  It's designed to be an exchange of ideas, not some amorphous search for "truth."  

And you're overstating the ability to determine the truth.  There is a lot of gray, but there is also a lot of black and white.  For example, we know Senator Krusty the Clown took a picture pretending to (or actually) groping a woman.  And we know Congressman Joe Barton was cheating on his wife.  Plenty of other examples.
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« Reply #267 on: December 02, 2017, 10:41:59 AM »

oh dear.


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« Reply #268 on: December 02, 2017, 10:53:59 AM »

You miss the point of the board.  It's designed to be an exchange of ideas, not some amorphous search for "truth." 

And you're overstating the ability to determine the truth.  There is a lot of gray, but there is also a lot of black and white.  For example, who know Senator Krusty the Clown took a picture pretending to (or actually) groping a woman.  And we know Congressman Joe Barton was cheating on his wife.  Plenty of other examples.

lol at an exchange of ideas on getbig haha lol.

And the issues you point out are not political issues. They are domestic/marriage issues. Joe Barton cheating on his wife is not a political issue.

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« Reply #269 on: December 02, 2017, 02:42:16 PM »

oh dear.


Will the agent and the lawyer be investigated on whether their actions or potential bias tainted the investigations (both the current one and the Clinton investigation)? Mueller has been trying to create the perception of a thorough and neutral investigation, will he address this? Rhetorical questions probably.
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« Reply #270 on: December 02, 2017, 04:08:13 PM »

Will the agent and the lawyer be investigated on whether their actions or potential bias tainted the investigations (both the current one and the Clinton investigation)? Mueller has been trying to create the perception of a thorough and neutral investigation, will he address this? Rhetorical questions probably.

wasn't this guy removed from the investigation last summer

from what I've read he made comments making fun of "candidate Trump" and the concern was that they could be interpreted as pro-Clinton

Given that fact that many Republicans made derogatory comments about candidate Trump and then endorsed and/or voted for him I don't see what the problem is
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« Reply #271 on: December 02, 2017, 06:59:54 PM »

wasn't this guy removed from the investigation last summer

from what I've read he made comments making fun of "candidate Trump" and the concern was that they could be interpreted as pro-Clinton

Given that fact that many Republicans made derogatory comments about candidate Trump and then endorsed and/or voted for him I don't see what the problem is

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« Reply #272 on: December 03, 2017, 01:03:21 AM »

Will the agent and the lawyer be investigated on whether their actions or potential bias tainted the investigations (both the current one and the Clinton investigation)? Mueller has been trying to create the perception of a thorough and neutral investigation, will he address this? Rhetorical questions probably.

Mueller aide fired for anti-Trump texts now facing review for role in Clinton email probe

Two senior Justice Department officials have confirmed to Fox News that the department's Office of Inspector General is reviewing the role played in the Hillary Clinton email investigation by Peter Strzok, a former deputy director for counterintelligence at the FBI who was removed from the staff of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III earlier this year, after Mueller learned that Strzok had exchanged anti-Trump texts with a colleague.

A source close to the matter said the OIG probe, which will examine Strzok's roles in a number of other politically sensitive cases, should be completed by "very early next year."

The task will be exceedingly complex, given Strzok's consequential portfolio. He participated in the FBI's fateful interview with Hillary Clinton on July 2, 2016 – just days before then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was declining to recommend prosecution of Mrs. Clinton in connection with her use, as secretary of state, of a private email server.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.html
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« Reply #273 on: December 03, 2017, 05:53:27 AM »

Mueller aide fired for anti-Trump texts now facing review for role in Clinton email probe

Two senior Justice Department officials have confirmed to Fox News that the department's Office of Inspector General is reviewing the role played in the Hillary Clinton email investigation by Peter Strzok, a former deputy director for counterintelligence at the FBI who was removed from the staff of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III earlier this year, after Mueller learned that Strzok had exchanged anti-Trump texts with a colleague.

A source close to the matter said the OIG probe, which will examine Strzok's roles in a number of other politically sensitive cases, should be completed by "very early next year."

The task will be exceedingly complex, given Strzok's consequential portfolio. He participated in the FBI's fateful interview with Hillary Clinton on July 2, 2016 – just days before then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was declining to recommend prosecution of Mrs. Clinton in connection with her use, as secretary of state, of a private email server.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/mueller-aide-fired-for-anti-trump-texts-now-facing-review-for-role-in-clinton-email-probe.html

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« Reply #274 on: December 03, 2017, 06:32:29 AM »


What a damn joke.


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