Manchester England - Terrorist Attack outside Ariana Grande Concert - Discuss

[SuperTed]

Umm... yes they do. This is 2017, and they realize that their future is at stake. This isn't 2001. They realize the dangers to their society, which is why they are talking to the US, Israel and others, as are many countries quietly. You just assume you hear stuff from propaganda machines. Not that Saudi Arabia is a saint, by any means at all. They still have a strict view of their religion which I do not agree with at all. Women can't drive, must get permission to do anything... but slowly, they are changing, but will still takes year.

Again, sorry but you are well off with this. The reason Saudi Arabia are talking to the US and Israel is because they just want to see their blasphemous neighbours (Iran) get taken out as the priority. Saudi Arabia's promoting and funding of the most dangerous interpretations of Islam (Wahhabism and Salafism) has been well established now. This isn't propaganda.

ISIS are nothing more than the militant front of these beliefs. Did you read the links I provided which shows how Saudi Arabia are using the money given to them by the US to build mosques and Islamic schools across Europe? Here's another one -

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9614/germany-saudi-arabia-qatar-kuwait

[Skeeter]

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/24/reactions-to-manchester-bombing-show-how-anti-muslim-bigots-are-useful-idiots-for-isis/

[Nails]

[honest]

He was on a watch list and allowed to travel to Libya prior to the attack, the british government might as well have killed those kids themselves. I dont blame the terrorist, he's just being allowed to be one, I could sympathise if he came completely from under the radar, but to here they knew about him and did nothing is an injustice, if governments are to wait for them to attack and kill, before they act, might as we;; put the white flag, dont round them up and take them to trial, kill them, he should have been killed prior and no media no announcement just disappeared, torture him prior so that he gives up everyone else, then go do the same to them, no media, no comment, within 12 months this problem no longer exists.

its against our laws and values, but our children are dying, we have the means, the will and the history to defeat anything these radicals can throw at us. But our soft democracy and governments allow this to continue to happen, the blood is on our  governments hands not theirs, eventually this will happen sadly its going to take a lot more manchesters and paris type attacks before it will.

Take the gloves off.

[Simple Simon]

He was on a watch list and allowed to travel to Libya prior to the attack, the british government might as well have killed those kids themselves. I dont blame the terrorist, he's just being allowed to be one, I could sympathise if he came completely from under the radar, but to here they knew about him and did nothing is an injustice, if governments are to wait for them to attack and kill, before they act, might as we;; put the white flag, dont round them up and take them to trial, kill them, he should have been killed prior and no media no announcement just disappeared, torture him prior so that he gives up everyone else, then go do the same to them, no media, no comment, within 12 months this problem no longer exists.

its against our laws and values, but our children are dying, we have the means, the will and the history to defeat anything these radicals can throw at us. But our soft democracy and governments allow this to continue to happen, the blood is on our  governments hands not theirs, eventually this will happen sadly its going to take a lot more manchesters and paris type attacks before it will.

Take the gloves off.

My dad always said that about the IRA.
SAS undercover squads just take them off the street and make them disappear, the rest will get so shit scared they will simply vanish.

[Simple Simon]

Hmm... perhaps it is because ISIS, when it goes into a town, destroys all statues and history, kills off in mass graves thousands of people, and remove everyone that they don't like. Total terror and fanatics.

And without the media resources we have today all that would go unnoticed, so whats it got to do with the West how they conduct themselves in their own country.

You already said anyone wanting to leave those shit holes are welcome in the EU, so why should we care if they chose to stay and get murdered?

[Fortress]

The clueless Katy Perry summed up perfectly why we're losing our nations.

Asked about Manchester, she offered the usual useless platitudes, and then (paraphrasing), "We need to just love each other ... No borders ... ."

Young white women are becoming a real menace, along with the usual libtard cucks and Jew meddlers.

As I say over and over, the masses are unable/unwilling to understand or accept reality. They have a life philosophy that is entirely founded on how they want the world to be, and not on HOW IT IS.

[El Diablo Blanco]

This is where Trumps travel ban would have helped. So this guy was in Libya for a few weeks then comes back and does this shit.  Isn't there some sort of tracking being done on people making these trips?

[balzac]

The clueless Katy Perry summed up perfectly why we're losing our nations.

Asked about Manchester, she offered the usual useless platitudes, and then (paraphrasing), "We need to just love each other ... No borders ... ."

Young white women are becoming a real menace, along with the usual libtard cucks and Jew meddlers.

As I say over and over, the masses are unable/unwilling to understand or accept reality. They have a life philosophy that is entirely founded on how they want the world to be, and not on HOW IT IS.

there is no hope, watch the germans, they will reelect angela merkel again in a couple months 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you thick yank shit. i never said there had never been any islamic terrorist attacks, i said we didn't have a problem with it. it was something very rare that no one even considered. lets look at the list then from your link. out of 10 terrorist attacks in the UK pre 2000, only one was by muslim perps (pan am plane) and that attack targeted americans rather than UK citizens.
iirc apparently that was in response to a passenger plane your air force shot down "by accident" in the middle east.

munich was targeting israelis. there had been a few others in europe but again most (not all) targeting israelis and americans.

stop trying to talk sht. anyone with half a brain knows in europe there really was no fear of islamic terrorism until we got roped into bombing muslim countries post 9/11.

you thick yank shit. i never said there had never been any islamic terrorist attacks

Fuck me you're simple  YOUR fucking quote genius
we had no problem with terrorism from until we started attacking muslim countries.

Care to contradict yourself some more? On top of being flat out wrong. These Islamic fuck heads have been taking swipes at the West for a very long time , get your facts straight before you post bullshit.

[Rudee]

Witnesses described hearing a horrible deafening noise coming from the Ariana Grande concert at the Manchester Arena this evening... Then it stopped and there was an explosion.

LOL.

[James]

[Conker]

As usual, going off topic - WTF does Israel have to do with Europe and the growing Muslim's coming there.  Israel has not slaughtered more children... but perhaps HAMAS has, in their futile missle strikes to Israel and their utter control of Gaza, with their properganda.  But this has been discussed already countless of times, yet some people still think otherwise.  Remeber, Jordan killed 17,000 Palestinians (Black September 1970), but we are discussing things in 2017, not in the past. Once again, go back to these crap myths from years ago.

Hmm... perhaps it is because ISIS, when it goes into a town, destroys all statues and history, kills off in mass graves thousands of people, and remove everyone that they don't like. Total terror and fanatics.

Umm... yes they do. This is 2017, and they realize that their future is at stake. This isn't 2001. They realize the dangers to their society, which is why they are talking to the US, Israel and others, as are many countries quietly. You just assume you hear stuff from propaganda machines. Not that Saudi Arabia is a saint, by any means at all. They still have a strict view of their religion which I do not agree with at all. Women can't drive, must get permission to do anything... but slowly, they are changing, but will still takes year.

Not yet.. not the type of war you are accustomed to thinking. Wait until the civil war with Muslims vs others start, and perhaps in a decade or less now.

Refugees are flowing into Europe because of democray and free will.  Also, because the other Arab countries DO NOT want them in their coutries, and they have strict border patrols.

This part I agree with... too many arms selling, but good for economics ... right.      

it was you that first brought up israel!

ok some figures

"Between 8 July and 27 August, more than 2,100 Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip, along with 66 Israeli soldiers and seven civilians in Israel."

"The UN says at least 2,104 Palestinian died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28439404

so in a 3 week period more children were killed by israel than will likely be killed by islamic terrorists in europe in the next 50 years ,even if things continue at the current rate!

yes palestine has had conflicts with other neighbours but israel is the only nation currently denying them the right to the land that the rest of the world states is legally theirs. along with all the brutality and human rights atrocities it is committing against them.
and your black september death toll is hugely exaggerated.

you talk about ISIS? they're just another result of the mess the US has caused in the middle east.
listen from 30 secs of this vid your own president admitting the rise of ISIS was a direct consequence of your foolish Iraq invasion.

refugees are flowing into europe because of democracy ? where are you pulling this nonsense from?
they're fleeing to europe because western military "intervention" has turned their countries to rubble and pushed them into civil war.

and again you have no clue when you say arab countries do not want them. the vast majority of refugees from these countries are sheltering in the middle east. for instance of the syrian refugees roughly 1 million are in jordan, 2 million are in lebanon, 3 million in turkey. less than 1 million are in europe and most of those are in germany.

ron you are a good guy but your grasp of world affairs is far beyond dismal.

[NarcissisticDeity]

it was you that first brought up israel!

ok some figures

"Between 8 July and 27 August, more than 2,100 Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip, along with 66 Israeli soldiers and seven civilians in Israel."

"The UN says at least 2,104 Palestinian died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28439404

so in a 3 week period more children were killed by israel than will likely be killed by islamic terrorists in europe in the next 50 years ,even if things continue at the current rate!

yes palestine has had conflicts with other neighbours but israel is the only nation currently denying them the right to the land that the rest of the world states is legally theirs. along with all the brutality and human rights atrocities it is committing against them.
and your black september death toll is hugely exaggerated.

you talk about ISIS? they're just another result of the mess the US AND THE UK has caused in the middle east.
listen from 30 secs of this vid your own president admitting the rise of ISIS was a direct consequence of your foolish Iraq invasion.

refugees are flowing into europe because of democracy ? where are you pulling this nonsense from?
they're fleeing to europe because western military "intervention" has turned their countries to rubble and pushed them into civil war.

and again you have no clue when you say arab countries do not want them. the vast majority of refugees from these countries are sheltering in the middle east. for instance of the syrian refugees roughly 1 million are in jordan, 2 million are in lebanon, 3 million in turkey. less than 1 million are in europe and most of those are in germany.

ron you are a good guy but your grasp of world affairs is far beyond dismal.

Don't forget your responsibility 

[Conker]

Don't forget your responsibility 

i've said all along was a massive mistake for the UK to get involved.

[Conker]

thats the special relationship

yes it's working out just great!

[Van_Bilderass]

The clueless Katy Perry summed up perfectly why we're losing our nations.

Asked about Manchester, she offered the usual useless platitudes, and then (paraphrasing), "We need to just love each other ... No borders ... ."

Young white women are becoming a real menace, along with the usual libtard cucks and Jew meddlers.

As I say over and over, the masses are unable/unwilling to understand or accept reality. They have a life philosophy that is entirely founded on how they want the world to be, and not on HOW IT IS.

Meanwhile these celebrities have their own personal borders in their gated communities and have personal guards etc. It's easy to preach tolerance for everyone else when they are pretty damn safe in their bubbles.

[Man of Steel]

That imaginary friend you have a " relationship " with.

What imaginary friend?

[NarcissisticDeity]

What imaginary friend?

This guy

[Nails]

[chaos]

He was on a watch list and allowed to travel to Libya prior to the attack, the british government might as well have killed those kids themselves. I dont blame the terrorist, he's just being allowed to be one, I could sympathise if he came completely from under the radar, but to here they knew about him and did nothing is an injustice, if governments are to wait for them to attack and kill, before they act, might as we;; put the white flag, dont round them up and take them to trial, kill them, he should have been killed prior and no media no announcement just disappeared, torture him prior so that he gives up everyone else, then go do the same to them, no media, no comment, within 12 months this problem no longer exists.

its against our laws and values, but our children are dying, we have the means, the will and the history to defeat anything these radicals can throw at us. But our soft democracy and governments allow this to continue to happen, the blood is on our  governments hands not theirs, eventually this will happen sadly its going to take a lot more manchesters and paris type attacks before it will.

Take the gloves off.

Exactly. I feel for the disarmed Euros heading to the slaughter, depending on their governments to defend them. 

[chaos]

is conker a muslim 

A sympathizer at minimum.

[HockeyFightFan]

Je suis Charlie....

How's that working for you libs?

[cephissus]

Ariana is an angel... How dare they?

[bigmc]

A sympathizer at minimum.

He's the type that could easily be radicalised

He needs to clarify that he sees these acts as terrorism

And acts of brutal unjustified barbarism