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Author Topic: 250-300mgs of Test a Week Forever For An Older Bodybuilder  (Read 6654 times)
Coffeeman
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« on: June 07, 2017, 06:05:08 PM »

Greetings, guys. I've been researching this for quite some time. I just turned 43 and been training since I was a teenager. I've built a decent foundation through training and diet (6'2" 225lbs and 9%bf). I want to be "enhanced", but healthy without going overboard. What kind of results can be achieved using 250-300mgs/wk of Test Cyp, indefinitely?
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 06:11:00 PM »

Greetings, guys. I've been researching this for quite some time. I just turned 43 and been training since I was a teenager. I've built a decent foundation through training and diet (6'2" 225lbs and 9%bf). I want to be "enhanced", but healthy without going overboard. What kind of results can be achieved using 250-300mgs/wk of Test Cyp, indefinitely?

IMO, 150-200mg is healthier. to do it long term and be healthy you will need to donate blood every 3-4 months and eat a pretty vegan/pescatarian focused diet.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 09:33:17 PM »

IMO, 150-200mg is healthier. to do it long term and be healthy you will need to donate blood every 3-4 months and eat a pretty vegan/pescatarian focused diet.
I don't follow a vegan diet, but I do make sure a high protein/moderate carb/ moderate fat diet. I weight train 5 times a week and do cardio 5-6 times a week.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 09:38:09 PM »

I was going through old posts and seen a guy named _aj_ use 250mgs of test a week for a little over a year and gained 15lbs of mostly muscle.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2017, 10:36:46 PM »

TRT dosages are far below that threshold. Acelerated baldness, prostate enlargement, hypercalcemia, deregulated thyroid, gyno, heart enlargement... And the list goes on. Even you protein intake should be reduce, for kidney health. Your body is not 20yo anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 03:45:33 AM »

Have been doing this for close to 3 years now (41-44) and feel great. Just don't expect the gains to keep coming. Yes, it can make your ceiling higher, but once you reach that you will stall again. However, stalling is progress once you're over 40. Maintaining a good body for as long as possible is the goal.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 03:47:55 AM »

TRT dosages are far below that threshold. Acelerated baldness, prostate enlargement, hypercalcemia, deregulated thyroid, gyno, heart enlargement... And the list goes on. Even you protein intake should be reduce, for kidney health. Your body is not 20yo anymore.

Utterly unscientific, but the dosages discussion should be done on a patient by patient level. My personal guide is my nut size: At 200 mg and below my nuts do not shrink (they did for a few months and then recovered), at 250 mg they shrink a bit (permanently). So to me it seems that 200 is close to a replacement dose for me personally.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 04:00:18 AM »

Utterly unscientific, but the dosages discussion should be done on a patient by patient level. My personal guide is my nut size: At 200 mg and below my nuts do not shrink (they did for a few months and then recovered), at 250 mg they shrink a bit (permanently). So to me it seems that 200 is close to a replacement dose for me personally.

Never would have guess that testicle size is an exact science, where you can extrapolate to the health of every internal organ.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 11:44:07 AM »

Ive been doing Test around that same dose when I started repacement at age 40 I am now 45 lots of muscle and look younger -however I dont eat perfectly and BP borderline but it also runs in my family,, I was doing deca dose as well-or som eq /masteron at times-other guys my age who still try to train and take no test just struggle constantly with muscle loss  fat gain, energy loss ,, sexual stuff and depression at times -and look OLD -Im sure within ten years I will go down in dosage to 100-200mg wk or so
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2017, 06:36:01 PM »

TRT dosages are far below that threshold. Acelerated baldness, prostate enlargement, hypercalcemia, deregulated thyroid, gyno, heart enlargement... And the list goes on. Even you protein intake should be reduce, for kidney health. Your body is not 20yo anymore.
Do you use gear? If so, what do you use? Just curious
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 06:38:55 PM »

Have been doing this for close to 3 years now (41-44) and feel great. Just don't expect the gains to keep coming. Yes, it can make your ceiling higher, but once you reach that you will stall again. However, stalling is progress once you're over 40. Maintaining a good body for as long as possible is the goal.
Yeah, I do expect to make initial progress. Then hit a plateau and be on maintenance mode until I expire.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2017, 06:41:36 PM »

Ive been doing Test around that same dose when I started repacement at age 40 I am now 45 lots of muscle and look younger -however I dont eat perfectly and BP borderline but it also runs in my family,, I was doing deca dose as well-or som eq /masteron at times-other guys my age who still try to train and take no test just struggle constantly with muscle loss  fat gain, energy loss ,, sexual stuff and depression at times -and look OLD -Im sure within ten years I will go down in dosage to 100-200mg wk or so
What does your protocol look like?
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2017, 02:34:02 AM »

Never would have guess that testicle size is an exact science, where you can extrapolate to the health of every internal organ.
Maybe you can, maybe you can't. You care about things you find important, and I will do the same.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2017, 11:25:20 AM »

Does anyone else use 250mgs a week? I'd love to get more input
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2017, 10:37:20 AM »

What does your protocol look like?
anywhere from 2-300 mg test cyp -was doing the same with deca now eq or masteron-bloods are good -just bp little high because I dont drink enough water
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2017, 01:51:57 PM »

I think a trt dose with the occasional 500mg blast once or twice a year is healthier than 300mgs year round.
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2017, 07:03:44 PM »

I think a trt dose with the occasional 500mg blast once or twice a year is healthier than 300mgs year round.
I do see the logic in that, as well. Plus, your body has a chance to become desensitized to the amount of androgens. Especially, if you go from 125mgs/wk to 500mgs/wk.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2017, 12:12:28 AM »

I  haven't dropped below 250mg/wk since late 2013 - I have been "on" since October 2010. for a (roughly) six month period during 2013 I dropped down to 125 -175 mg/wk. I have gone as high as 1200-1400mg/wk if orals are included during short (2-3 month) blasts, but 500-750 mg/wk would be more typical blast for me, at this point I blast once a year, maybe 1.5 times if we want to get technical.
I donated blood at first , but now take daily Naringin to keep RBC/hematocrit under control. I take fish oil and aspirin daily also. I will be turning 50 this year.

Resisting the urge to blast more than once every 9-12 months and accepting that at half a century old "impressive" HAS to be relative.......keeps me alive and healthy.

Also, I limit myself to test- adding deca, dbol, and/ or winny only for blasts. I use an AI (exemastane) 12.5 mg 2x/wk at 250-300mg test/wk.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2017, 06:34:55 AM »

I think a trt dose with the occasional 500mg blast once or twice a year is healthier than 300mgs year round.
perhaps your right maybe ill try that soon-why would that be better if my bloods are good?
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2017, 07:04:22 AM »

Do you use gear? If so, what do you use? Just curious

One shot of testex elmu prolongatum 250, every two weeks, for 3-4 months, then i stop. I am not castrated yet, so i am kind of experimenting.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2017, 08:49:52 AM »

Does anyone else use 250mgs a week? I'd love to get more input
Currently and going forward on 250 TE weekly. Last time I checked TT I was at 1620. I take 1.5 mg of ug Adex weekly which keeps my estradiol around 28. I donate blood every three month. Have blood work done twice a year, no issues. Anything else?
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2017, 05:42:58 PM »

TRT dosages are far below that threshold. Acelerated baldness, prostate enlargement, hypercalcemia, deregulated thyroid, gyno, heart enlargement... And the list goes on. Even you protein intake should be reduce, for kidney health. Your body is not 20yo anymore.

Total crap.  Do some research before you spout off bullshit like this. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2017, 08:07:18 PM »

Currently and going forward on 250 TE weekly. Last time I checked TT I was at 1620. I take 1.5 mg of ug Adex weekly which keeps my estradiol around 28. I donate blood every three month. Have blood work done twice a year, no issues. Anything else?
Did you see any size and strength increases on the 250mgs?
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2017, 09:50:05 PM »

I think I'll start out with 500mgs of Test E for 16-20 weeks after reading so many success stories. Then, dial it back to 200mgs a week the rest of the time. I had a full physical done. Everything came back great. BP is 110/70 with no prostate cancer.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2017, 08:39:08 AM »

I know a guy of 57 years. he has a very well trained body.
His regime is as follows:

Every month 250 test Cyp
Everymonth 200 Deca

Summer cycle;
Week 1-8
Test 250
Deca 200

Looks good i think.
Anybody else using deca and test on monthly basis?
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