Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines

[gib]

Yea I don't mind.

Q1- actually no, not really. Since I was big and vascular and I rotated veins. They'd scar over and collapse, but for whatever reason they never got dark and bruised like regular track marks. Back when I was shooting nubain in 2000-2001 or so I shot in my bicep veins and in the crooks of my elbow and nose would get dark and purple and scarred over just look at Tom Prince and his bicep and AC vein... Scarred up abscessed and purple as hell lol.. Mine was never THAT bad, but the left bicep vein was noticeable (in 01/02), bit clients and customers (I ran a GNC as well).. But recently (14-'16) I didn't really show any "track-marks", even as discard up and collapsed and I had to move on to shooting my neck, you never showed any track marks, so nobody knew I was using.

Q2- just overall productivity I suppose. I was making the most money I'd ever made in my life at that time. Had 6 income streams and pulling in enough to cover 8-9k a month on heroin, plus 600/month on sushi, and 1500 a month on household bills... Plus what? Like 500/month on other/misc stuff.... you'd be surprised how powerful addiction is when you can go from having $2,000 in bills a month and stressing about that , to having about 10 or $12,000 a month in bills at least and not thinking twice or worrying about it.. I just thought of a way to earn more.

...most people associate coke with "motivating" people like that, but for me it's opiates. And I should retract that statement about heroin, they can keep heroin illegal, and just make Diluadid easier to get... Nothing else works for me. Fuck oxy. I had 480mg of oxy in me when I went to jail Nov8th (took the rest of what I had from my surgery back in Aug) and it didn't do shit for me. Couldn't feel it at all... But, Diluadid worked very well while I was in the hospital that month. I'm sure you saw my vids from the hospital when I was walking around like nothing was wrong and doing biz from my hospital room. Ill take a 5mg Diluadid shot IM over any amount of Heroin. (I say "IM" because I can't do IV anymore unless it's through a PICC line or midline as all my veins are now closed up, even my neck.. when I had my midline in in the hospital they're giving me 2 mg Dilaudid every 2 hours which worked great however 2 mg IM didn't do shit LOL).

Thanks for the honesty. Wondering do we know who ESFitness is? Sounds like a similar background to David Dearth?

[gib]

I have never seen the joy in herion I liked xtasy and drinking way more. I didn't do xtasy everyday though but when I did I did a lot usually sold partyied away around a kilo a month I sold acid to didn't hardly do that much but it sold out the ass cost nothing in bulk not even a penny a hit.

lol a kilo a month - this is physically impossible you would be dead on much smaller dosages than that.

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lol a kilo a month - this is physically impossible you would be dead on much smaller dosages than that.

this is what happens when people don't stamp on esfitness outlandish claims other people jump on the bullshit bandwagon.

[Kwon]

lol a kilo a month - this is physically impossible you would be dead on much smaller dosages than that.

He sold a kilo a month

[ESFitness]

Bullshit alert right there, you have never been big and vascular...even at your leanest you were smooth and lacking any veins.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbA5KPdnY-_/


Happened to find a pic not to long ago before I had my thyroid mix up.

First person I thought of wasn't you jeffy, it was the insecure crazy burlesque dancer chic I was with for about 9 months who had me shut down my IG because i shouldnt need to be showing off for other girls. Didn't bother me much, since it was a client I'd met just before her who got men into IGbin the first place for "marketing purposes", as she/he did. I didn't see the point in taking pics of myself everyday and postingbthem

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BbA5KPdnY-_/


Happened to find a pic not to long ago before I had my thyroid mix up.

First person I thought of wasn't you jeffy, it was the insecure crazy burlesque dancer chic I was with for about 9 months who had me shut down my IG because i shouldnt need to be showing off for other girls. Didn't bother me much, since it was a client I'd met just before her who got men into IGbin the first place for "marketing purposes", as she/he did. I didn't see the point in taking pics of myself everyday and postingbthem

a varicose vein, impressive.

Now this photo was after your heroin days and you did say you didnt have any veins left after that.

Maybe your heroin addiction wasnt really what you originally made out.

Yea I don't mind.

Q1- actually no, not really. Since I was big and vascular and I rotated veins. They'd scar over and collapse, but for whatever reason they never got dark and bruised like regular track marks. Back when I was shooting nubain in 2000-2001 or so I shot in my bicep veins and in the crooks of my elbow and nose would get dark and purple and scarred over just look at Tom Prince and his bicep and AC vein... Scarred up abscessed and purple as hell lol.. Mine was never THAT bad, but the left bicep vein was noticeable (in 01/02), bit clients and customers (I ran a GNC as well).. But recently (14-'16) I didn't really show any "track-marks", even as discard up and collapsed and I had to move on to shooting my neck, you never showed any track marks, so nobody knew I was using.

Q2- just overall productivity I suppose. I was making the most money I'd ever made in my life at that time. Had 6 income streams and pulling in enough to cover 8-9k a month on heroin, plus 600/month on sushi, and 1500 a month on household bills... Plus what? Like 500/month on other/misc stuff.... you'd be surprised how powerful addiction is when you can go from having $2,000 in bills a month and stressing about that , to having about 10 or $12,000 a month in bills at least and not thinking twice or worrying about it.. I just thought of a way to earn more.

...most people associate coke with "motivating" people like that, but for me it's opiates. And I should retract that statement about heroin, they can keep heroin illegal, and just make Diluadid easier to get... Nothing else works for me. Fuck oxy. I had 480mg of oxy in me when I went to jail Nov8th (took the rest of what I had from my surgery back in Aug) and it didn't do shit for me. Couldn't feel it at all... But, Diluadid worked very well while I was in the hospital that month. I'm sure you saw my vids from the hospital when I was walking around like nothing was wrong and doing biz from my hospital room. Ill take a 5mg Diluadid shot IM over any amount of Heroin. (I say "IM" because I can't do IV anymore unless it's through a PICC line or midline as all my veins are now closed up, even my neck.. when I had my midline in in the hospital they're giving me 2 mg Dilaudid every 2 hours which worked great however 2 mg IM didn't do shit LOL).

[ESFitness]

a varicose vein, impressive.

Now this photo was after your heroin days and you did say you didnt have any veins left after that.

Maybe your heroin addiction wasnt really what you originally made out.

Oh, so now you're back to telling me WHEN the pics were taken? Haha haha. More of your "Asperger's-arrogance" again, eh?  Yourr TELLING ME that pic is AFTER heroin? Hahaha as if YOU would know hahaha... Adult-Autisim must really suck.

Adults with Autism

Social interactions and relationships.

Symptoms may include:
Significant problems developing nonverbal communication skills, such as eye-to-eye gazing, facial expressions, and body posture.
Failure to establish friendships with children the same age.

Lack of interest in sharing enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people.

Lack of empathy. People with autism may have difficulty understanding another person's feelings, such as pain or sorrow.

Verbal and nonverbal communication. Symptoms may include:

Delay in, or lack of, learning to talk. As many as 40% of people with autism never speak.1

Problems taking steps to start a conversation. Also, people with autism have difficulties continuing a conversation after it has begun.

Stereotyped and repetitive use of language. People with autism often repeat over and over a phrase they have heard previously (echolalia).

Difficulty understanding their listener's perspective. For example, a person with autism may not understand that someone is using humor. They may interpret the communication word for word and fail to catch the implied meaning.

Asperger's arrogance
""In chapter 4, Rudy discusses the aspie tendency toward bluntness and perfectionism, and near the bottom of page 20, she brings up what many describe as “Asperger arrogance.” I’d like to point out that her placement of these three topics in the same chapter is no coincidence. They are related.

Before I dive in, I’d like to take a moment to define “arrogance,” as I think it is important to understand exactly what I’m talking about. Merriam-Webster defines “arrogance” as “an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions.”


Fits you like a glove.  Last time I exposed your condition you "disappeared" for a while, hoping we'd forget.

Pathetic

[ESFitness]

you dont expose it to anyone, you dont advertise , there is no mention on your insta about upcoming bootcamps and numbers.
You have zero testimonials.


you claim its all done word of mouth and on people approaching you , firstly you look like a fucking hobo, secondly you are always drunk, thirdly you look like shit, who would think you were a PT based on looks?

seriously mate, stick to the drug cartel stories, they are more believable than you being a personal trainer.

You really are fucking stupid as fuck at least we all know why I guess Asperger's kind of fucks up their reasoning ability. You really think I'm going to post my business shit on the same Instagram I post pics containing sexual innuendo and steroid use?

Back up your claim of me saying "it's all done by word of mouth".

And drunk? I haven't been drunk since Nov 1st 2016, you ducking mental degenerate.

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You really are fucking stupid as fuck at least we all know why I guess Asperger's kind of fucks up their reasoning ability. You really think I'm going to post my business shit on the same Instagram I post pics containing sexual innuendo and steroid use?

Back up your claim of me saying "it's all done by word of mouth".

And drunk? I haven't been drunk since Nov 1st 2016, you ducking mental degenerate.

You had a DUI on 8th November 2017 you fucking idiot.

[ESFitness]

if you are so smart why do you constantly end up either in jail, rehab or the hospital on a regular basis?

Rregular basis eh? Hahaha

That tells me you are not as smart as you think you are. Although you were smart enough to abuse the fuck out of your health insurance with your 18 cheese burgers, 14 coca colas, 42 scoops of mashed potatos and 31 different flavours of ice cream each meal.

see, can't use facts to back up your claims so you need to.resort to over exaggerating. Hoping people will believe you

By your logic during your most recent hospital visit you should have told the Doctors "don't do the surgery, Doc, I am ES Fitness and I may not have an MD besides my name but I have experience abusing the fuck out of every drug known to man, can tell you my tales of prowess in prison and have been to rehab with that one guy who was a cousin of Screech from Saved by the Bell and apprently he was arrogant and a bully to everyone, especially family. Plus I have CPT besides my name which means I think I am smarter than an MD like you who studies 18 hours a day for 10 years to become  a doctor so hand me the scalpel doc and I will dig out that Spider Bite Bad Abcess From the dirty Gear I make in my bathtub myself"

I never said I was smarter than a medical doctor. That was your insecurities showing through. And you forget my ex fiance was a med student, now I doctor so I think between the two of us, I would have a little bit more first hand knowledge of what doctors study whole process of becoming a doctor etc etc etc I can also tell you that my ex fiance despite having four years of medical school behind her, at that point anyways, was clueless when I came to anabolic steroids and clueless when I came to things like Sports Nutrition. She may have gone over those subjects briefly however she was not interested in endocrinology or pharmacology or addiction medicine for that matter it was me who had to explain to her the ins-and-outs of hormone replacement therapy and the hpta axis..... and the doctor you speak to when you're in the hospital is just a fucking attending physician who rotates floors or hospitals every few days or a couple weeks. And the doctor I spoke with are doctors plural that is, when I was in the hospital for my hip surgery the floor doctors, weren't pain management specialists and we're fucking clueless when it came to opioid equivalencys, half-lives vs effective duration. The floor Physicians initial Choice was to give me 15 mg Morphine Sulfate CR P.O. T.I.D. & morphine sulfate IR PO PRN q4..... and didn't understand why that would be pointless in somebody with an opiate tolerance like mine. There used to opiate naive patients who likely have never had opiates in their life, much less a sustained addiction to diacetylmorphine (which is four to five times stronger then conventional morphine sulfate) at 6,000mg/day. The equivalent to 24,000 to 30,000 mg of the morphine sulfate they wanted to prescribe (at 135mg/day total) and thought was sufficient. When I had mentioned to the doctor that I had kidney stones about three months prior and had taken an 80mg tablet of oxycodone, and crushed it up and swallowed it, they believed that was not possible without me dying. Much less fee not receiving any pain relief or "high" from that dose... However when I asked to speak with a pain management specialist and explain to him my situation, they had absolutely no problem prescribing large doses of oral pain medications concurrently with IV pain medication every 2 hours. The difference between me and you "Nelson", well, one of the differences, is it I'm and informed patient. I like to know and understand what's going into my body. You are completely fucking clueless. You are ignorant. And it must make you pretty fucking insecure knowing how ignorant you are because you constantly try to tell as many people as you can did they are no better than you that they are no smarter than you that they are no more informed than you. God forbid somebody knows something that you don't how can that possibly fucking be?

You do the same thing with your old junkie alcoholic bullshit. You claim that every junkie is just like you. Every junkie is the same. You're the type of person who would rather bring other people down to your level rather than try to better yourself.

That's ducking pathetic[/b]

I honestly think you go to jail,rehab or the hospital because you get tired of microwaving t6v dinners

3..2..1 before you come back with some long ass gibberish post about how the jail,rehab or hospital had nothing to do with your lifestyle or some other fucking bullshit about your non expertise

Never  saw a guy who melts down as much as you. The only thing you are an expert as is fucking up and getting caught doing it


you're a sad bitter washed up old man Nelson. It's pathetic to see you constantly constantly constantly reposting the same photo shops of me hoping every day that somebody would make a comment and give you some praise for them. It's fucking sad. You and your little photo shops use in the same picture in a dozen different threads begging for acceptance, reminds me of little Mexican kids on the Tijuana River Bridge selling me Chiclets

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see, can't use facts to back up your claims so you need to.resort to over exaggerating. Hoping people will believe you

Fucking hell, you are accusing someone else of doing that!!!!!!!!

[ESFitness]

You had a DUI on 8th November 2017 you fucking idiot.

That's the date I went to jail you fucking moron, from a DUI August 12th. There you go with that Asperger's shit again. Thinking you know more than you do.

News flash jeffy-poo, you don't need to be drunk to get a DUI.

[ESFitness]

No fucking way this guy was functioning and looking normal around people with the doses he brags about.

It is like when I have gone to meeting and someone is telling their story, and it will go something like "yeah so I always was violent beating up people winning all the fights bla bla bla,(then in the next sentence)so I used to always be a blackout drinker and I always woke up covered in my own blood, and all busted up"

Point is most people who are fucked have this blurred view of how they were yet there is a different version of what society and those around us saw, 2 or more very different versions of events.

I just read Dee Snider's book and he made a joke about all these rock stars claiming to be keeping diaries while using heroin and how that is total horseshit because the last think someone on smack is thinking about while high is a pen and paper

this describes the reality of getbig's own version of Walter Mitty

See what I mean Nelson? You pass off your own experiences thinking everybody else's experience must surely be exactly like yours there's no way it could be any different. Haha haha..... it's all a nice little game people like you play with yourselves in order to make yourself feel better. Because if you were a gutter drunk passed out slobbering piece of shit when you were drinking or getting high on whatever you were getting high on, and everybody else must surely have been too and if they're not they're lying!! Right? That's exactly how you think. Pathetic

[Zillotch]

getbig is basically one tard calling another tard a tard... and some gay shit lol

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See what I mean Nelson? You pass off your own experiences thinking everybody else's experience must surely be exactly like yours there's no way it could be any different. Haha haha..... it's all a nice little game people like you play with yourselves in order to make yourself feel better. Because if you were a gutter drunk passed out slobbering piece of shit when you were drinking or getting high on whatever you were getting high on, and everybody else must surely have been too and if they're not they're lying!! Right? That's exactly how you think. Pathetic

look moron, if you were using 6 gms of heroin a day people would know about it, the fact you didnt pick up on that is because you were off your fucking tits, either that or you weren't using heroin, its just another nice story to tell.

here watch this guy, he probably thinks no one knows hes on heroin

and you claimed to be using 6 gms and no one noticed???

[ESFitness]

look moron, if you were using 6 gms of heroin a day people would know about it, the fact you didnt pick up on that is because you were off your fucking tits, either that or you weren't using heroin, its just another nice story to tell.

here watch this guy, he probably thinks no one knows hes on heroin

and you claimed to be using 6 gms and no one noticed???

More of your Asperger's and autism coming out... You just can't help it can you? You just don't get it number one you're talking about something you know absolutely nothing about... unless you want to tell us all that you had a heroin problem.... you're going to tell me that for 18 months straight I was nodding out and falling asleep all over the gym all well not only maintaining the clients I had to pay for my drug bills, but also adding new clients to pay for my drug bill... Is that what you're saying?

Hahhahahhaa... keep on talking about things you know absolutely nothing about and assuming you know how opiates affect everybody and how they affect everybody the same.

Hope this helps...
Www.autisimForums.com

#autismspeaks !

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More of your Asperger's and autism coming out... You just can't help it can you? You just don't get it number one you're talking about something you know absolutely nothing about... unless you want to tell us all that you had a heroin problem.... you're going to tell me that for 18 months straight I was nodding out and falling asleep all over the gym all well not only maintaining the clients I had to pay for my drug bills, but also adding new clients to pay for my drug bill... Is that what you're saying?

Hahhahahhaa... keep on talking about things you know absolutely nothing about and assuming you know how opiates affect everybody and how they affect everybody the same.

Hope this helps...
Www.autisimForums.com

#autismspeaks !

so you took heroin for 18 months, spent $78k on it and it didnt effect you so anyone would notice.

Tell me, do you get your heroin from the same place as your gear?

You sound like you have been given a raw deal all your life.

6gms of heroin a day, and no one noticed, 6 gms of gear a week and no one noticed.

Yep, one of lifes winners.

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Hahhahahhaa... keep on talking about things you know absolutely nothing about and assuming you know how opiates affect everybody and how they affect everybody the same.

https://drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-heroin-use/

Can you point out in there anywhere it says that heavy heroin use transforms the individual into a successful personal trainer?

[ESFitness]

so you took heroin for 18 months, spent $78k on it and it didnt effect you so anyone would notice.

Tell me, do you get your heroin from the same place as your gear?

You sound like you have been given a raw deal all your life.

6gms of heroin a day, and no one noticed, 6 gms of gear a week and no one noticed.

Yep, one of lifes winners.

So, not only do you think you can tell me when my pictures were taken, but you can also tell me how opiates affect me.

Interesting.

Typical of people with your condition

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So, not only do you think you can tell me when my pictures were taken, but you can also tell me how opiates affect me.

Interesting.

Typical of people with your condition

So they dont effect you the same as everyone else?

I have never seen heroin effects quoted as not effecting you to the point where someone would notice.

Please, tell me how your day went using 6gms heroin, what were your dosages per shot, how often did you shoot, and  be careful you dont fuck it up.



edit, in fact dont fucking bother, I have no idea why I encourage you, its like trying to have a discussion with a retard.

[Sokolsky]

It's a shame ESF is immune to everything, we'll have to deal with his bullshit indefinitely it seems. 

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It's a shame ESF is immune to everything, we'll have to deal with his bullshit indefinitely it seems. 

Hes immune to the truth thats for certain.

I really have to start leaving him alone, everyone else seems to just take his shit and gloss over it, I really hope they dont take it at face value.

The reason I closed my other account and fucked off wasnt because of any of the fuckwits like dj or esfitness, it was because the posters who I thought had sense were actually taking them seriously.
Dj has been in a 3 monthly loop for the last ten years, his post history hasnt changed, he is like a clock, his constant requests for advice are repeatedly answered and people take the time to respond with well thought out answers, he then simply ignores everyone and decides to be a boxer again, then 8 weeks later hes back asking for advice and the same people respond again, seriously, if you burn your hand on a fire it should really stop you doing it again.

[Nether Animal]

if you burn your hand on a fire it should really stop you doing it again.

Shouldn't you be taking your own advice here?

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Shouldn't you be taking your own advice here?

I thought that after I wrote it, I was leaving it to see if someone picked up on it, I have lost confidence in some people here of late in pulling people up on bullshit posts.

Now if you could just keep an eye on esfitness for me...

[ESFitness]

So they dont effect you the same as everyone else?

I have never seen heroin effects quoted as not effecting you to the point where someone would notice.

Please, tell me how your day went using 6gms heroin, what were your dosages per shot, how often did you shoot, and  be careful you dont fuck it up.



edit, in fact dont fucking bother, I have no idea why I encourage you, its like trying to have a discussion with a retard.

I've already stated how my day went, many times. We all know you've seen it.

Here, instead, practice some self-help

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Deal-with-Obsession-As-an-Autistic-Person%3famp=1