Question For Getbiggers on Hrt

[The Keto Kid]

Started Hrt a while back, 200mg test a week, but my doc also has me on Hcg, I was wondering if any of you guys on Hrt doing the same thing? Does it make any sense to run Hcg and test together? Can't really find much info on this subject so wanted to see if any experts here have any opinions.

[jakew300]

HCG will help to keep your balls going and producing test.  HCG also aids in weight loss.

[Obvious Gimmick]

HCG will help to keep your balls going and producing test.  HCG also aids in weight loss.

This. It's standard unless your body has zero ability to produce test naturally. They should have given up a estrogen inhibitor too.

[The Keto Kid]

This. It's standard unless your body has zero ability to produce test naturally. They should have given up a estrogen inhibitor too.

Yeah I also have arimidex, but does this make sense to have hcg and test together? Isn't this combo sending two different signals to my system?

[ESFitness]

I always thought taking HCG along with HRT was fucking pointless the only thing that's going to add is the risk of getting a girl pregnant. I would also be worried about doing HCG consistently and routinely desensitizing the latex cells so when you actually do want to have a baby the shit won't work Orwell work as well

[Thong Maniac]

I always thought taking HCG along with HRT was fucking pointless the only thing that's going to add is the risk of getting a girl pregnant. I would also be worried about doing HCG consistently and routinely desensitizing the latex cells so when you actually do want to have a baby the shit won't work Orwell work as well

This. Ditch the hcg until u plan to come off. I used trt for years, with no hcg...hit one bottle of hcg and some Clomid and boom....baby boy the next couple months. Hcg just raises ur estrogen, expensive, silly cuz u have to refrigerate, etc...

[The Keto Kid]

I always thought taking HCG along with HRT was fucking pointless the only thing that's going to add is the risk of getting a girl pregnant. I would also be worried about doing HCG consistently and routinely desensitizing the latex cells so when you actually do want to have a baby the shit won't work Orwell work as well

That's what I've been wondering along with a bunch of other things, wondering if theres actually a point to using them together and is it actually unhealthy to be using these together.

This. Ditch the hcg until u plan to come off. I used trt for years, with no hcg...hit one bottle of hcg and some Clomid and boom....baby boy the next couple months. Hcg just raises ur estrogen, expensive, silly cuz u have to refrigerate, etc...

The stuff is sent to me automatically every month, it has expiration dates, but how long does this stuff actually last?

[The Abdominal Snoman]

This. Ditch the hcg until u plan to come off. I used trt for years, with no hcg...hit one bottle of hcg and some Clomid and boom....baby boy the next couple months. Hcg just raises ur estrogen, expensive, silly cuz u have to refrigerate, etc...

Probably the clomid that helped produced the boy...

[Grape Ape]

Started Hrt a while back, 200mg test a week, but my doc also has me on Hcg, I was wondering if any of you guys on Hrt doing the same thing? Does it make any sense to run Hcg and test together? Can't really find much info on this subject so wanted to see if any experts here have any opinions.

How old are you?

[Van_Bilderass]

I always thought taking HCG along with HRT was fucking pointless the only thing that's going to add is the risk of getting a girl pregnant. I would also be worried about doing HCG consistently and routinely desensitizing the latex cells so when you actually do want to have a baby the shit won't work Orwell work as well

   

That's what I've been wondering along with a bunch of other things, wondering if theres actually a point to using them together and is it actually unhealthy to be using these together. The stuff is sent to me automatically every month, it has expiration dates, but how long does this stuff actually last?

I think hcg is good for at least 6 weeks reconstituted with bac water and refridgerated.

The point is, from what I remember, is that there are a bunch of hormones aside from testosterone that the body stops to produce on HRT... important hormones like DHEA IIRC. HCG keeps these hormones up. They have neural effects such as keeping sex drive up aside from other health effects. Some feel testicular size is important as well, for whatever reason lol.

There are some studies showing desensitization doesn't seem to occur even at thousands of units a week over 6 or 12 months, forget which.  Might have been longer even.

Personally I would use it on HRT if possible. A few hundred iu per week.

[The Keto Kid]

How old are you?

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I think hcg is good for at least 6 weeks reconstituted with bac water and refridgerated.

The point is, from what I remember, is that there are a bunch of hormones aside from testosterone that the body stops to produce on HRT... important hormones like DHEA IIRC. HCG keeps these hormones up. They have neural effects such as keeping sex drive up aside from other health effects. Some feel testicular size is important as well, for whatever reason lol.

There are some studies showing desensitization doesn't seem to occur even at thousands of units a week over 6 or 12 months, forget which.  Might have been longer even.

Personally I would use it on HRT if possible. A few hundred iu per week.

What if you don't reconstitute it, just leave the powder, how long will it last?


Also anyone else here prescribed HCG with test by their hrt doc? My buddy's on hrt and is just prescribed test by his doc, so just trying to figure out if I should use this stuff or not and will it be beneficial or detrimental.

[Thin Lizzy]

Do you guys think test would help distance running performance? What the "cheaters" use in that event is EPO which causes the body to produce more red blood cells which in turn allows more oxygen to get to the working muscles.

However, I don't really see how test would help as more muscle is just more weight you have to carry. From 5K on up, it's almost exclusively an aerobic event.  Big, fast twitch, muscles don't help as the rep range is in the thousands.

[The Keto Kid]

Do you guys think test would help distance running performance? What the "cheaters" use in that event is EPO which causes the body to produce more red blood cells which in turn allows more oxygen to get to the working muscles.

However, I don't really see how test would help as more muscle is just more weight you have to carry. From 5K on up, it's almost exclusively an aerobic event.  Big, fast twitch, muscles don't help as the rep range is in the thousands.

Cyclist, runners, endurance athletes on elite levels all use test and to some extent GH, but at low dosage, due to the fact they need to keep the weight down, along with stuff like EPO.

[dj181]

Do you guys think test would help distance running performance? What the "cheaters" use in that event is EPO which causes the body to produce more red blood cells which in turn allows more oxygen to get to the working muscles.

However, I don't really see how test would help as more muscle is just more weight you have to carry. From 5K on up, it's almost exclusively an aerobic event.  Big, fast twitch, muscles don't help as the rep range is in the thousands.

EPO》》》》》》》》any anabolic

for cardio and wind and stamina

I believe Shane moseley tested positive for EPO as it would greatly help boxers as well

[Thin Lizzy]

EPO》》》》》》》》any anabolic

for cardio and wind and stamina

I believe Shane moseley tested positive for EPO as it would greatly help boxers as well

The work bouts  for boxers are three minutes. So it's mainly aerobic. That's why boxers do those slow road workouts, to develop an aerobic base.  Test would help with punching power which is kind of important in boxing.

However, distance running it isn't so clear as power really isn't an issue. Most of the top distance runners weigh about 125.  I would see test more of value to a sprinter.

[dj181]

The work bouts  for boxers are three minutes. So it's mainly aerobic. That's why boxers do those slow road workouts, to develop an aerobic base.  Test would help with punching power which is kind of important in boxing.

However, distance running it isn't so clear as power really isn't an issue. Most of the top distance runners weigh about 125.  I would see test more of value to a sprinter.

it's actually very anaerobic

my boxing coach trained me with a lot of interval type stuff

3 minutes on 1 minutes off, just like a boxing round

we sparred a few times and it went for like 7 fucking minutes straight

he's a heavyweight with 15 years experience and I had bout 3 months experience

he also used mma gloves while I used regular boxing gloves and we did 2 rounds of this and after we finished out 2 longass rondo he said to me "you are a brave guy"

very nice comp but was I brave or jjust stupid lol

[Thin Lizzy]

Yeah, it's kind of a hybrid between anaerobic and aerobic. Most of the rounds are spent doing footwork with quick exchanges of punches mixed in. Rarely do you see a round where the guys slug it out from start to finish. They would gas. MMA is the same.

It's an intensity thing. Once you pass a certain threshold it becomes anaerobic.

[dj181]

Yeah, it's kind of a hybrid between anaerobic and aerobic. Most of the rounds are spent doing footwork with quick exchanges of punches mixed in. Rarely do you see a round where the guys slug it out from start to finish. They would gas. MMA is the same.

I could never slug it out for 3 straight min, no way in hell,  and I was a pretty fit guy at that time

if you watch Hearns vs. Hagler that could very well be nearly 3 full rounds of slug fest

one ,for the greatest fights EVER

too bad my boy Hearns was on the losing end of it 

[Thin Lizzy]

I could never slug it out for 3 straight min, no way in hell,  and I was a pretty fit guy at that time

if you watch Hearns vs. Hagler that could very well be nearly 3 full rounds of slug fest

one ,for the greatest fights EVER

too bad my boy Hearns was on the losing end of it 

Funny, when I was typing that last post I was thinking about that fight. There was no way that fight could've gone 12 rounds. You can go all out for about 40 to 45 seconds. The classic pure anaerobic event is the 400m.

[dj181]

Funny, when I was typing that last post I was thinking about that fight. There was no way that fight could've gone 12 rounds. You can go all out for about 40 to 45 seconds. The classic pure anaerobic event is the 400m.

actually true ALL OUT is less than 8 sec, but yeah 400 meters Iis the longest sprint

btw,  Lizzy's best tune is jailbreak 

[Van_Bilderass]

Do you guys think test would help distance running performance? What the "cheaters" use in that event is EPO which causes the body to produce more red blood cells which in turn allows more oxygen to get to the working muscles.

However, I don't really see how test would help as more muscle is just more weight you have to carry. From 5K on up, it's almost exclusively an aerobic event.  Big, fast twitch, muscles don't help as the rep range is in the thousands.

Test and other steroids help recovery no matter the discipline. They help neurally, not to forget. Distance runners often have low test, sometimes to the level of castrates. Steroids work like EPO in increasing red blood cells, another thing to consider.

Tested athletes use microdoses of test. Then it's about recovery mostly, neural and otherwise and to boost the other drugs slightly. They might do small doses of oral test undecanoate at night for example, so the drug is washed out by morning when testers might show up.

[Thin Lizzy]

actually true ALL OUT is less than 8 sec, but yeah 400 meters Iis the longest sprint

btw,  Lizzy's best tune is jailbreak 

Yeah, truly all out is the creatine phosphate system. Then the anaerobic system kicks in. The grand total is about 40 to 45 seconds.

 Some of my favorite Lizzy songs: the rocker, the cowboy song, jailbreak, emerald, and of course the boys are back in town.

[Van_Bilderass]

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What if you don't reconstitute it, just leave the powder, how long will it last?

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Well the product should have an expiration date, no? Of course that's only the guaranteed time it's good for, might be good for years after depending on how it's stored. Don't know if it has ever been examined in the case of hcg.

Check this site for info on trt and hcg etc. For example:

https://www.excelmale.com/showthread.php?11021-Does-hCG-wake-up-upstream-hormones-shut-down-by-testosterone-replacement

[ratherbebig]

imnot gonna read anything in this thread but i do have something to say

UP THE DOSAGE!!

[Thin Lizzy]

Test and other steroids help recovery no matter the discipline. They help neurally, not to forget. Distance runners often have low test, sometimes to the level of castrates. Steroids work like EPO in increasing red blood cells, another thing to consider.

Tested athletes use microdoses of test. Then it's about recovery mostly, neural and otherwise and to boost the other drugs slightly. They might do small doses of oral test undecanoate at night for example, so the drug is washed out by morning when testers might show up.

Solid post.

I heard an interview with a top American marathon runner named Ryan Hall. He said during his marathon career he always had low test levels. When he stopped doing marathon training, he immediately started working out with weights just so he would know what it felt like to have some muscle.