there is the tipping point or the your almost there but this is what you need to really do to move up or winners chance and now is the time,clearly the upping the dose fits here with eating and going for it,with comes the sides good or bad no hair/fuller stomach area but all the big boys get it somehow or way nowadays,,90's guys things ere a bit different maybe better compounds or dosages per what you getting.today upping the dose gives you the 'freak or chemically look 'that was missing a bit in the smaller version of oneself.its the game unfortunately and that's why classic is appealing for some'still a drug game'but to a lesser extent or the guys doing it know how due to genetics'hair/skin/overall look'know how to keep it minimal and less abusive